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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 03:07:03 PM »
The Democrats are allowing the radical nut jobs to speak for their whole party; the traitorous Somali bitch with the head scarf, the bartender cunt, and the vapid ex-VP etc.

There are sane Democrats, like Fetterman. And Bill Maher, who claims he isn’t technically a Democrat but who votes with them 90% of the time, has come out in support of what Trump is doing in Iran. Why? Because he is a champion of women’s rights, and, unlike the woke cult, is walking the walk when somebody takes kinetic action to actually free women from brutal oppression. Whereas the end-stage TDS suffering leftist “feminists” turn utterly hypocrite when it’s Trump freeing these women. Because they don’t actually care about women’s rights, just narcissistic virtue signaling and feeding their hatred of Trump, America, and Western Civilization in general.

I almost "liked" this post because I agree with nearly everything in it... but what has Ilhan Omar done that is actually treasonous?

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 02:57:12 PM »
Likely consequences?   Geez.   

Speaking of “waking up”, if we aren’t careful we will end up with another democrat administration and congress.   And if we thought it couldn’t get worse than the disaster of FJB, think again.

Exactly. But apparently, we have different ideas about how to avoid that outcome. Personally, I consider polarizing rhetoric to be a big part of the problem.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 02:54:03 PM »
I’ve read what you wrote.  It’s humorous that you are alleging conservatives are “demonizing” and “attributing evil intent”.   

Is this like using “Nazi” over and over, or “White Christian Nationalism”, or even “KKK”, and let’s kick in the ever popular “racist!”.

Can you point me to where conservatives are doing this?

The first two posts in this thread right here, for starters: http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=8580.0

The post by Number 7 at the top of page 4 in this thread is another example - lots of invective about how Democrats love to be controlled. I don't have time to look for other examples right now, but look for yourself and you'll find plenty of claims right here that Democrats are communists, traitors, sick, pedophiles and/or in bed with pedophiles...

It's NOT just the Right by any means, the Left does it too. Both sides are convinced the other side isn't just wrong, but stupid, demented, evil,... pick the pejorative of your choice.

I realize it's probably tilting at windmills to point this out here, where people are largely convinced that Democrats are are all these terrible things and I don't expect to change any minds. I just can't read that sort of thing and stay silent - and it's so widespread that I wonder whether this country isn't headed for civil war.

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Spin Zone / Re: Things that make you go "huh?"
« on: March 02, 2026, 10:33:25 AM »
I have never directly donated to any politician/party. And I never will.

Two months ago I would have said the same thing... but then I donated to our local Town Republicans to help one of our candidates for selectboard with his campaign.

(Unfortunately, it looks like he will lose anyway - a strategic error I think more than anything else, running against a very popular incumbent, in a town where the transplants greatly outnumber the more conservative native Vermonters.)

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 10:07:38 AM »
  Sitting back and remaining quiet is what is expected from these authoritarians.  This is why the democrat party has also embraced censorship.  Censorship is an important tool in an overthrow just as we are seeing the constant barrage of misinformation (MSM) and the confusion of genders, etc.

 Again, anyone who blindly votes democrat is enabling the slide. Not speaking up against that?  Also enabling.

There you go again. Reread what i wrote - what I actually wrote, rather than your interpretation. I never said don't speak up against them. There's a big difference between opposing someone's ideas and policies and demonizing them personally, attributing evil intent.

No one should blindly vote anything, Republican, Democrat, or anything else.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 10:02:16 AM »
This is censorship via intimidation.

No. Not intimidation. Just urging folks to wake up to the likely consequences of painting a very diverse demographic with a very broad brush.

Example: Mark Cuban endorsed Harris in 2024. Radical left Democrat? A closer look reveals he has libertarian roots (his Wikipedia page says he's a Randian) and, based on a recent Firing Line interview, a lot of interesting ideas about how to bring down the cost of healthcare, and a solid understanding of market economics. He supports the Hawley/Warren "Break Up Big Medicine" bill for pragmatic reasons, saying that the free market will get us there eventually but would take too long. He appears to have ruled out a presidential run.

Maybe he fits into Rush's list of sane Democrats? He refuses to commit to a party though. He seems to be in the "a pox on both your houses" camp.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 09:39:38 AM »
I realize you depend upon the MSM for your information, but yes, for several decades (more recently) many democrats supported a dictator named Fidel Castro.   Starting with BHO, then you had Karen Bass, Bobby Rush, Laura Richardson, Barbara Lee and others.  Even Bernie Sanders expressed his support of the Cuban revolution then try to say he thought Castro was too authoritarian.

Right, lots of left wingnuts supported Castro. Throw in Jane Fonda for good measure. Doesn't prove anything.

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Yet we have them complaining the US had no right to apprehend him.

From a purely legal perspective they might be correct. I'd go so far as to say that it's the opposition's job to challenge what the party in power does - one of the motivators behind Congressional oversight. Shouldn't be while hostilities are in progress though.

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  Don't kid yourself, he had his admirers in US politics and if they could he would be set free.

I have no doubt that's true, but it's far from the party's position, or even the majority position.

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No it's not.  As the democrat party has embraced Marxism it's the next logical step for them.

  The extreme progressive left now runs the democrat party.

Oh, they'd like to. But again, I don't think this is a fait accompli, at least not yet. Keep pushing extreme rhetoric, though, and it's likely to come to pass.

The party as a whole has NOT embraced Marxism... so far. What worries me is that so many Gen Z'ers see nothing wrong with so-called Democratic Socialism. Do you think Mamdani's victory was just a NYC thing? I think it's an ominous sign. I can't find the reference right now, but I recently saw a projection that Gen Z and the Millennials will dominate the voting demographics by some date - 2035 I think it was, might have been sooner.

The worst thing we can do is demonize the Democrat party as a whole. All that does is push people who are not sold on MAGA further into the hands of a party that is trending ever further leftward. There is, after all, such a thing as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 09:05:28 AM »
I see where you are coming from, but to accept azure's claim as true that everything going back to the great flood of 1018 is because people hate President Trump is dishonest, disingenuous, and down right corrupt. The left has been successfully brainwashed and act without reason, thought, logic, or even a shred of truth. Excusing their cowardly, corrupt, and criminal behavior as because of Trump, is stupid, and insincere, like every other liberal position.

It reminds me of the hard left congresscriminals that claimed the rodney king killings were excusable because we must 'understand the rage.' Bullshit. Violent leftiest are constantly seeking an acceptable defense for rioting, looting, and killing. That is not excusable. Stealing liquor and nike sneakers is not a political statement, it's criminal, and they are criminals.

Illegals are criminals.

Rioters are criminals.

Arson, and rape (which SO MANY muslim illegals engage in) is criminal.

Murdering peaceful protestors in iran is criminal, even though stupid people (liberal democrat communists)  are so brainwashed that they run out and protest protesting.

Burning Tesla's because Elon is friends with President Trump is arson and those fuckers are criminals.

Everrything the left doesd these days is criminal and everyone knows it. Pretending and making bullshit excuses makes the excuser just as guilty.

Missed this the first time around.

I never said that EVERYTHING the Dems do wrong is because they hate Trump. I was talking about the current move to curb Trump's power to wage war against Iran. That, and that ONLY.

But it IS true that a lot of their complaining against Trump is reflexive, knee-jerk reacting. Witness their reactions to the 12-Day War last year, and to the capture of Maduro. It's completely off base to claim that it's because they LIKE Maduro - especially given that most of them want to see Machado take the reins in Caracas, who is anything but a Leftist.

Some of it is complex. Back in the 1980s, I think most Dems would have been on board with a ban on transgender male athletes competing as women - this is, after all, common sense. Whether it's because it's a Trump EO or because they've been brainwashed by the trans movement I'm just not sure... I think it's partly both.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 08:47:35 AM »
You're exactly right.  It's not so much that the democrats love tyrants.  They hate everything that Trump does.  On the other hand, the democrats want to be tyrants... just their kind of tyrant.

Bingo.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 08:36:28 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/sen-lindsey-graham-says-not-151312906.html?.tsrc=1013&ncid=crm_-1999334-20260302-1--A&bt_user_id=X%2BOjQcyMNuyANWUu3wJs0X%2FiCnWF%2FXL75anUtBGzQ7Dr7JWkaEG7jcWQ8YfpRWbMU2F0xktg0W6rSKI%2FHbFDRKof9EIV5BaXrNwzn1%2B%2BBYIyE3pRM3LKn71Zu2Ds8xhh&bt_ts=1772461740468

Not sure if that link will work... but that story from NBC News puts the lie to the claim that Democrats love tyrants... certainly no tears are being shed over Khamenei's killing, just lots of reflexive reactions to a bold move by a Republican administration.

I hate to be in the position of defending Democrats - I have no love for the Left myself - but misrepresenting the other side's positions only widens the gulf between the two sides... and makes US look bad.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 07:52:19 AM »
As far as your bold faced lie about paranoia,... [frothing at the mouth deleted]

Do you even know what the word means? Jeezum crow...

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 07:50:11 AM »
  Democrats have had a long love affair with dictators.  Castro comes to mind.  They endlessly paraded back and forth to Cuba to appease him.

  They also let Maduro do whatever and often praised him.  The Ayatollah?  Again nothing but appeasement. 

  I could go on and name a few more but we get the picture.  The radical leftist identify with authoritarians and are envious of them.

  Funny but the only dictator they despise is Putin.   Go figure.

Democrats loved Castro? IIRC the Obama-era "Cuban thaw" was strictly an Obama thing and there were even some Democrats (a Cuban-American Congressman whose name I've forgotten being one) who were dead set against it.

Maduro was a different case - there was some love for him at first, but other than the radical Left, I don't know of anyone who praised him after he proved to be a tyrant, certainly not after he rigged the most recent election.

It's true that Democratic administrations have historically taken less of a hard line against Communist regimes in this hemisphere, but it's a very big stretch to conclude that the reasons were ideological.

Even today, it's only the extreme progressive Left, the Sanders-AOC-Mamdani wing, who profess any ideological sympathies with Marxism.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 02, 2026, 07:36:07 AM »

https://x.com/overton_news/status/2028116259007582621

I was referring not to the 1973 War Powers Act, but to the root of the issue, namely Article I, Section 8. My point was, lines do need to be drawn, but not while in the middle of a conflict, not in a way that would impede the CiC's ability to exercise his Article II, Section 2 powers.

It appears Trump is acting well within his authority under the WPA.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 01, 2026, 07:40:25 AM »
Paranoid thinking like that will never get you anywhere.

They don't love the Ayatollah - mostly they just hate Trump.

And there IS a War Powers issue here - but this is not the time to bring it up, so I disagree with Massie et al as well. But yes, where is the line where POTUS needs to consult Congress before taking military action? Not an easy question.

POTUS needs latitude to launch ops like this - without the element of surprise, they would not have gotten Khamenei and several other top leaders. You consult Congress first, almost certainly you lose that element.

So again... now is NOT the time.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iran?
« on: March 01, 2026, 06:42:11 AM »
Liberals are visibly upset that DJT has taken out another one of their beloved dictators.

Who in their right mind professes any love for the Ayatollah? Liberals are upset with ANYTHING Trump does... it's knee-jerk TDS.

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