And that will never, ever happen. They will be with us as long as there is a "cyber", or the human animal still continues to prey on itself.

However, I still need some clarification. If I understand it correctly, the FBI and the DOJ is demanding Apple unlock one phone and not supply the FBI with a new kit of software that they can use wherever they want. Is this wrong? If I'm right, basically Tim Cook doesn't trust any of his employees to not let this secret knowledge, knowledge that people seem to be treating like atomic bomb secrets, out to the wide world. If so, that is a seriously sad commentary on our society, Silicone Valley, and humanity in general.

I also get that if they do it once, the FBI will be back again and again. However, the requirement for a judicial review before the orders are given is good enough for me. People get so wrapped up in protecting their naked selfies, gossip, grousing about the government, cheating texts and god knows what else that they forget there are some very bad people out there that our law enforcement is expected to catch before they act. To do this they need intel. A captured phone of a known perpetrator is exactly where this kind of intel comes from.

Once upon a time, maybe 15 years ago, phones were easy to crack into and everybody was OK with it. What has changed?? Is the world in general that much more evil?

Really, 2/3 of these phones are sold overseas.  A proper judicial review in China according to their laws is what worries me. Not clear why you would be comfortable with that. This is a global issue and back doors are not in our interests.

The current IOS uses AES-256 encryption, and has since v8.0. The threat from cyber criminals is growing like crazy. The security on the phones is partially why most of the identity hacks don't come through the phones. Prior to v8 there was a back door that Apple used in the 70 cases.the users wanted a more security so they made it sold it and now it's in the wild. Good, I'm tiered of being hacked.

The current security can't be cracked by Apple or anyone else.

Apple is being cohersively deputized to create a new operating system with a back donor and install it on this one  phone so it can be cracked. They promise it will never be used again.  Their history makes me shutter. Trust?

And remember, 70% of these phones are sold around the world. China WILL issue a similar court order. Trust them too?

We need more security, not less until the cyber criminals are all gone....

Rubio/Fironia