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Spin Zone / Re: The Democrat and MEDIA White Nationalist narrative
« on: March 19, 2019, 07:20:40 AM »
The Democrats/Media are doing the same thing people did to Germany after WWII in response to the Third Reich.  You can't be patriotic or mention nationalism in a positive light as they view that as what Hitler did, actually OVER did.  Now, in the U.S, if you are patriotic, and put America first like Trump promotes (MAGA) then you are racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic. 

This is the epitome of Propaganda, and extremely deceitful.  Yet many people, including some here, buy it.
Exactly. This is where I went off on Azure on a different thread. She should know better.

Interestingly, last night on the way home from work and after I blasted azure) I heard Mark Levin talking about this very issue.  He had audio of a bunch of commentators on CNN I believe who are saying things like “this is the language used by white nationalists on an increasing basis...blah blah blah.” 

Levin, and I, wonder where the fuck these people are talking to ALL THESE white nationalists that must be hanging around. Where are they? 

Thanks for posting that Anthony.

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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: March 18, 2019, 08:49:57 PM »
Americans With No Abilities Act (AWNAA)

Democrat Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Cortez is considering introducing legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act  (AWNAA) is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills and ambition.

“Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,” said California Sen. Kamala Harris.

“We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.”

In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state
government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63 percent).

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles
but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.

Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the
non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, “Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this job?”

“As a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the Toyota plant in Georgetown, KY due to her inability to remember “righty tighty, lefty loosey”.

“This new law should be real good for people like me. I’ll finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Said Sen. Dick Durbin: “As a senator with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good salary for doing so.”

This message was approved by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Diane Feinstein, Kamala Harris, Maxine Waters, Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, Elizabeth Warren & Nancy Pelosi........ all Americans With No Abilities whatsoever.
 
 

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Spin Zone / Re: TDS thread
« on: March 18, 2019, 07:19:58 PM »
And here I thought conservatives believed in free markets and supply and demand. Raise salaries. If the pay goes high enough you’ll get clean workers. If you have to stay straight for a good paycheck folks will do it. Sorry, just the price of being in business.
Boy, you certainly know about business don’t you, being cloistered inside the safe zone of academia.

You may have walked past the economics department, so next time you do, I suggest you sit in on a class.  Look up price elastic of demand. When the price for a good or service increases, the demand for it decreases along with the sales volume for the good or service.

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Spin Zone / Re: Will American Jews continue to vote democrat?
« on: March 18, 2019, 06:54:47 PM »
What "very fine people" do you think he could have been referring to on the White Nationalist side?

Yes, after considerable pushback he did condemn white nationalism unequivocally. What took him so long?

(For clarity: I don't know whether Trump is a white nationalist or not. It is very possible that he simply thinks that a significant fraction of his base are white nationalists, and his instinct is to avoid alienating any part of his base. But even that would be pretty damning IMO.)
Azure, I’ve always had a high opinion of your contributions, by this one is a huge disappointment, and doesn’t reflect your track record of thinking freely.

There were not just two sides in Charlottesville. There were people - southerners - who truly were against the destruction or removal of an historic statue for the appeasement of the mob.

A mob has no right to select an object of their ire and then destroy something that is not theirs, and that has meaning to many people. The Taliban did shit like this, not Americans. There were good Americans fighting for that every reason in Charlottesville. Those are good people.  Were there white nationalists there?  Certainly. Were everyone who didn’t want to see the statue destroyed white nationalists?  Absolutely fucking not.

Your timeline of considerable pushback is a crock of shit. I heard exactly what he said on the day it happened, and he said what a President should say. The fact that some people like you twisted his words or imparted meaning that wasn’t factually accurate is why he was forced to try and correct the record that was purposefully being re-written to appease the mob.

“...he simply thinks that a significant fraction of his base are white nationalists...”

I’m sorry, but you are part of the problem. And by the way, fuck off. I’m so tired of being demonized for supporting this president, and being lumped in with the worst groups people like you can think of.

When the left gets triggered because a MAGA hat is equated to a dog whistle of white nationalist, they can all fuck off.

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Spin Zone / Re: Will American Jews continue to vote democrat?
« on: March 18, 2019, 06:06:32 PM »
Actually that's an idea I've never considered because it usually means taking a vote away from someone I'd prefer. If there is a 3rd party candidate on the ballot that I like, that is something I might just do. Might be the first time I've ever voted Libertarian...
I learned my lesson. I gave my protest vote to Ross Perot in 1992.  In fact 20 million of us did. He still didn’t carry a single state, so Bill Clinton won with 43% of the popular vote. Let that sink in.

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Spin Zone / Re: College Scandal
« on: March 17, 2019, 07:00:27 AM »
The only reason fossil fuels still dominate here is we subsidize them heavily. Of course, one thing I never understood. They pump oil in most places and the oil belongs to the people. The proceeds go into the national treasury and lower everyone’s taxes. Here it goes into private hands, despite the fact that in truth it belongs to all. Never did get that.

I’m sure you’re just trolling, Ocasio-Steingar, because you can’t be so stupid about this.

Let me know how “the people” are doing in the most oil rich country on the globe.  Go ahead, I’m waiting. I visited that beautiful country in the 1990s. Venezuelans were doing well. Now, doctors are doing surgery by flashlight, and people are eating out of garbage trucks. Oh, and if you visit, don’t bring your cat, Fluffy, because “the people” are eating dogs and cats to survive.

I am curious how you lay claim to all of the oil pumping equipment I see in the fields of southern Illinois, Indiana, and even Ohio. Did you pay for the equipment to extract it?  Did you discover it?  If not, how can “the people” own it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/05/07/how-venezuela-ruined-its-oil-industry/#21482e57399d

The fact is, the government extracts more in taxes than the profits of nearly anyone else in the production stream. Certainly more than the retailer who allows us to pump it into our vehicles.

But go ahead, let me know how we “subsidize” oil.

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Spin Zone / Re: Will American Jews continue to vote democrat?
« on: March 15, 2019, 07:41:35 AM »
One of my biggest problems in life is that I love irony.  And there is something wonderfully ironic in this thread.  The hallmark and necessary condition of "Communism" is one party rule with suppression of all other political activity.  There are states with very solid one party rule, and they are all very very firmly in the control of the GOP.

I have found that the terms "communist" and "socialist" are thrown about widely with little real wisdom simply to inflame.
We don’t currently have one party rule, but you can’t be blind to the fact that the left is pushing for just that.

There is a movement to pack the USSC being led by Eric Holder. The move to lower the voting age to 16 and allow non-citizens to vote is being led by democrat leaders in Congress.  The media has demonstrated that they are active advocates for one side and demonizers of the right. Conservative speakers are actively silenced on campuses and in the public square, or shouted down by people unwilling to hear a message different from their own. Conservatives are demonized across the societal spectrum, to the point that it is dangerous to life, limb and property to wear a MAGA hat or put a pro-Trump bumper sticker on our cars. The left is literally unwilling to coexist with conservatives. It seeks to silence, marginalize, and ultimately eliminate it.

Don’t tell me that those activities aren’t socialistic and driven by the desire for single party rule.

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Spin Zone / Re: Will American Jews continue to vote democrat?
« on: March 14, 2019, 11:20:21 AM »
Honest question: why do folks here call the current Democratic Party "communist"?

Communism to me implies that most property, industry, agriculture, etc. are state-owned. The political system is single-party, and those who don't belong to the party are subject to persecution. Intellectuals are forced to conform to what is dictated by government, or otherwise driven into exile or "purged". Basically an iron-fisted totalitarian State. Such as the old USSR was and that we find today in places like China and North Korea.

I don't see even the current far left Dems pushing toward that at all. Someone said they want to turn the US into Norway. I think that's pretty accurate. It's European-style "democratic socialism". I agree that it would be a disaster for this country, but it isn't based on Marxism as far as I'm aware, and it's a long way from Soviet or Chinese style Communism. Scandinavian countries still have multiple political parties and capitalism thrives, albeit under a heavy regulatory burden.

Is all this just hyperbole, or am I missing something?
The promises they are pushing are the promises pushed by the communists when they commenced their revolution.

I hate using memes to make a point, but this one seems very on point.


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Spin Zone / Re: Who is doing the most to help women around the world?
« on: March 09, 2019, 11:14:10 AM »
Just like Obummer did for his race
Yep. We were as a society becoming “post racial.”  Then Obama came in and stoked old flames of hatred and victimhood. I’m not sure we can ever turn back.

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Spin Zone / Re: Helllooo. Is anyone there?
« on: March 06, 2019, 10:12:53 PM »
I am a big believer in not just pointing out things, but also fixing them.

So, if the board is quiet, go grab whatever news story you are passionate about and explain why

Or else I will have to start another monkey race.
Gee, thanks Dad.

Do you try to kill threads or does it just come naturally?

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I agree. But I think being a bartender is more of her handlers telling her what to do over her lying about her "struggles" growing up and where she lives.
Or “Schtruggles” in Michele Obama-speak.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Hard Left and Treasonous Repubs never sleep
« on: February 27, 2019, 09:25:11 AM »
A lesser man would bow out after 4 years, saying he doesn’t need this shit, for no pay, for disruption of his family and business life, and for literally no gratitude whatsoever.

But Trump seems to thrive on this shit.

I believe he was a reluctant leader, and never ever expected to win the presidency.  Yet when he did, he stood up, took the fire, and followed through on his promises, at least as much as is legally possible with an intransigent congressional majority, and an adverse congressional minority.

If he stands in the gap one more time, I’m standing with him.

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You want to know how effective walls are try asking the Chinese.  Can't believe you guys think potential immigrants can't build ladders.  Or use ropes.  Or dig.  Or blast.
I can’t believe you don’t read current events. Israel has very effective walls that have been 99% effective.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

But of course you know better than the Israelis, don’t you?

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I wouldn't call 15-17% pregnancy rates for women on ships as "horrible" or an "unintended" consequence. Sailors doing the dirty and women getting pregnant is a given, especially cooped up on a ship. This comes with the territory of a mixed-gender force, and progress can be made tailoring the logistics to lower the pregnancy rate.

Pregnancy is a part of life. Only women can get pregnant. Stating these facts doesn't come close to proving that women in the force is a net negative. Especially when the Navy already pulls sailors off of shore leave early because critical billets are unfilled.
Now come asechrest.  I was kind of tracking with you on this issue until this post.  I think you’re either being naive or haven’t read about the impact of a significant number of women getting pregnant on ships.

It is no small matter when you have to pull a woman off a ship, especially a nuclear vessel that could be at sea for half a year without needing to dock.

A nuclear aircraft carrier is not a college dormitory.  The interaction between the teams and need for esprit de corps is mandatory to maintain a combat footing.  Interpersonal and sexual relationships interfere with that.

Saying “this comes with the territory in a mixed gender force” is an answer given by sociologists, not warriors who’s job it is to win a war, not conduct social experiments.

I used to have a woman work for me who was a Lt. Commander in the Naval Reserves and flew MH-60 Seahawks.  When in active duty she flew these off destroyers in anti-drug ops off South Africa. She was a tough cookie. Her husband was retired Navy. In the reserves they would fly from Jacksonville to Bath, Maine to test weapons systems when they put out a new Destroyer.

While working for me she became pregnant.  The navy let her continue to fly until the earlier of (a) 7 months or (b) when her survival gear no longer fit.

She stopped flying around 5-6 months, but for neither of the reasons above. She stopped because her crew mates were doing HER jobs for her, like climbing on top of the aircraft for preflight inspections. They were being gentlemen and didn’t want her to fall in her pregnant state.  That’s gallant in a peacetime reserve setting, but could disrupt union cohesion when the shit hit the fan in a combat footing, especially on a vessel.

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