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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 28, 2020, 02:47:45 PM »
This is a fantasy.  Republican legislatures will not be ignoring the election and choosing their own electors. 

 So the constitution is a fantasy?   Really?   Do you actually understand what's going on here?   

 Apparently not.

 There stands a good chance (even better today) that one if not more states may not select electors due to their elections being in dispute.   Under the constitution the legislature can choose a couple of routes to pursue.

First, recount the votes in accordance with law, and throw out all of the votes in question.   However, PA has a problem with that as it's been discovered many voting records have mysteriously disappeared.   They could just count the legal votes that are left (which will go to Trump) and choose the electors for him.

Second, they can simply report to congress that their election is disputed and they will not send electors to vote (yes, they have that right).

 If neither side (Biden/Trump) get to 270, then under the constitution the election immediately goes to the House of Representatives to select the President and the Senate to select the Vice President and the results of the previous election become null and void.

 In the house, each state delegation gets one vote, and right now there are more republican legislatures than democrat.  Trump wins. The senate gets one vote per senator for Vice President, so Pence wins.

  There would be lawsuits galore over changing the rules after the fact and rightfully so.

 I would love to see those lawsuits.  How would anyone successfully win a suit over an issue that is clear in the constitution?   And since we are now in the Thomas court with originalist justices in the majority, can't see that getting traction either.

I've heard this discussed by Democrats, but they aren't panicking over it, they're amused and a little disgusted at Republicans trying to steal the election.

 The law is on the Trump Teams side.  The constitution is on their side.   The rule of law will prevail.

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: November 28, 2020, 02:26:11 PM »
The Democrats aren't doing a thing about public opinion, they already have it.  They won the election and Republicans have failed to show anything substantial that changes that.  All Trump is doing right now is rearranging deck chairs and screwing up how people view him. 

 So what's the issue with letting the President have his day in court?   Shouldn't he be afforded the same rights as anyone else?

 BTW, in case you missed it, https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/pennsylvania-judge-says-plaintiffs-have-viable-claim-state-mail-ballot-rule.

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A state judge in Pennsylvania is upholding her earlier injunction against the state's certification of the 2020 election results, stating that a lawsuit alleging the unconstitutionality of a state ballot rule is "likel[y] to succeed" on its own merits.

In the ruling Friday nights , Judge Patricia McCullough stipulated that her earlier temporary injunction against the state's elecion certification process was valid and should be enforced.

The lawsuit on which McCullough made the initial injunction argued that the Pennsylvania legislature's Act 77, passed last year,  "contravene[d] the requirements of the Pennsylvania Constitution." That act, the petitioners claimed, constituted "an attempt by the legislature to fundamentally overhaul the Pennsylvania voting system and permit universal, no-excuse, mail-in voting absent any constitutional authority," as McCullough summarized the petitioners' argument in her Friday ruling.

The petitioners, McCullough writes in the ruling, "appear to have established a likelihood to succeed on the merits because Petitioners have asserted the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for the legislature to allow for expansion of absentee voting without a constitutional amendment."

The Pennsylvania Department of State's office on Tuesday announced that it had certified the presidential and vice presidential election results in Pennsylvania, though McCullough in her ruling noted that there were numerous steps to be taken to officially finalize that certification in state records.

"[T]he emergency preliminary injunction was properly issued," the ruling states, "and should be upheld pending an expedited emergency evidentiary hearing."


Like I've said before, the gentlemanly thing to do was to concede a while ago.  No surprise he hasn't.

 Why concede before all options are run out?   Again, all the Trump team has to do is present it's allegations and evidence, which only needs a preponderance of the evidence before a judge.   The burden of proof will be on the democrats to disprove it.

 Notice which side is panicking at the moment?   Says it all.

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: November 28, 2020, 01:50:34 AM »
No. You do both. If there was evidence, they would also be publishing it it to gain support because winning public support is at least as important as winning the court case. There isn’t and that is telling of the outcome of the legal case.

I think in your anger and grief, you’re projecting.  It might be more successful of you stopped trying to set up straw men because you don’t like the facts I’m pointing out.

The only case I’ve heard with any merit is the PA procedural case over absentee voting expansion.  The PA gov screwed the pooch on this one, but what is the relief? 

See how that works?  I agree that PA is a mess and probably unable to certify who really won. That is public opinion AND courts.

The dims want this fought in the court of public opinion because they have the machine of the MSM to carry them through.  A “no lose” fight. 

Plus, in the court of public opinion it doesn’t carry the weight of law.   Using the actual legal system they can actually lose.  And to add to that, they (the dims) know they are on the losing side of the argument since now the burden of proof shifts to them.   With a court of public opinion they control the narrative and simply do what you have been doing, which is ignore evidence and claim it’s all untrue. Fortunately they can’t do that in a real court of law.

The rule of law will prevail.   And we know how the dims hate the courts when they can’t control the outcome.   As for the fraud allegations?   The burden of proof is on them to disprove the allegations. 

The dims were way to sloppy in their exuberance to steal an election, and it’s coming back to bite them in ways they never imagined.

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 25, 2020, 07:24:46 PM »
I’m optimistic again. This is worse than a roller coaster. It’s like alternating between the top of Mt Everest and the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Hang tight.  I find it fascinating. 

We are witnessing history.  We had it happen in 1800, 1824, 1826 and 2000. 

The dims got too exuberant in their election heist, and were sloppy leaving evidence laying around.

The Rule of Law will prevail.

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Spin Zone / Re: Cases! Cases! Cases!
« on: November 25, 2020, 07:51:07 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: If You Listen Carefully...
« on: November 23, 2020, 06:32:43 AM »
I hate to be the first to “flame” but here goes. Technically, the United States may survive a Harris administration, but it will be a hollow shell, rotten on the inside. China survived the cultural revolution; Russia survived the Red revolution, and so on.

But the U.S. was where escapees from those places fled to. As Magda Faith said at one of the recent Trump rallies, the planet has run out of places to go to escape these tyrants. The U.S. is the last harbor of freedom. So if we lose this election, not only is the free U.S. lost, so is the entire world. They will have solidified communism globally.

 By conceding this election and acting "gentlemanly" only tells the left that their electioneering does indeed work, and they will refine it for elections to come.  The next step will be eliminating conservatives totally from the blue states in legislatures, the house and senate.  We will see a 2/3rds house and a 2/3rds senate of democrats easily.

 The presidency?  Predetermined way in advance of any election.  We gave them the tools.

 Asia.   China will overtake Taiwan and then begin overtaking the countries around the South China Sea basin.   A President Biden will be powerless against them as he has been bought and paid for.   Our manufacturing returns to Chinese control while the Chinese return to their practice of heavily tariffing  our products.   The Chinese will expand themselves in the west slowly devouring SA and CA countries for their resources.    China will end up controlling Africa.

 The Middle East will nose dive once again.  The dims are already bitching how Trump has made the ME "dangerous" (although we've seen record peace there).   The dims love a divided ME.    Israel is toast once again.

 More nonsense endless wars to fuel the MIC.   Iran will become fully nuclear capable.

 We will return to paying for the majority of NATO as EU countries won't feel obligated any longer.   And we will be dragged into nonsense "Paris Accords" which are nothing more than a vast transfer of our wealth.

 I can go on and on.   Many reading here are in the same age group, and have nice retirements awaiting us or already in use.   Get ready to start kissing that goodbye.   Don't believe me?   Go spend some time reading up on what plans the dims have on those huge pools of money sitting in IRA's and 401K accounts.   

 We will see socialized medicine as "Obamacare" morphs into "Bidencare".

 But yea, let's be "gentlemanly" and hand a bunch of fucking theives an election they blatantly stole.

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 22, 2020, 06:50:53 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 22, 2020, 05:30:42 PM »
Puts the Russian interference thing in a whole new light. Create a fake story over Hillary’s emails being linked to Trump, when the CIA itself is hacking our fucking voting machines! Brennan has been a communist from the start - quite literally. And yet the CIA Barack Obama still hired him.

FTFY

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 22, 2020, 12:12:50 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: If You Listen Carefully...
« on: November 21, 2020, 05:04:51 PM »
The flak is always the heaviest when you are over the target.

Just keep that in mind.

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 21, 2020, 06:48:37 AM »
We are in a situation where no matter which gets inaugurated on Jan 21, the losing side will see the government as illegitimate. Think of that: an illegitimate coup, a stolen election, no matter which way this goes. The losing side will see themselves as the “real” government, and therefore justified in taking extreme measures to “take it back”. The winning side will feel justified in using any means necessary to suppress the other. It will get very ugly.

The only way to prevent this is for the whole country to accept the election result as valid. But there is no scenario in which that can happen. If Biden takes office, our half knows for fact that the Dems cheated. If Trump wins, most of the half that voted Dem will never believe the evidence was real, even if the proof is obvious. The media will continue to lie and it will be explained away as a conservative plot by whatever Republicans are involved in the decision. Only the many Dem operatives will know the truth and they feel morally justified to cheat. They imagine themselves taking down “Hitler”.

Within the government itself there is an irreconcilable divide, within all the agencies, the IC, the military, etc. The only thing keeping the Federal government stable is that they accept that the occupant of the Oval Office is legitimate. Starting now, that is no longer possible.

There’s no way out of this except through it.

Here's my take.

 We do not have a 50/50 split in this country.  I would think it's more like 70/30 or even 80/20 favoring the people who know this election was rigged.   Some recent polling bears this out.

 The radical leftist are not a majority, and have never been.  This is another myth.  The perception that the radical leftist are an overwhelming majority is because they now control the MSM and the DNC.

 History has shown, over and over, that when a tyrannical regime takes over it's typically a small group (compared to the population).  What we are witnessing in this country are the exact same tactics that's been used for over a 100 years around the world.  Exactly the same.

 The tyrants begin by gaining control of segments one by one.  Education is key, media is key.  Healthcare is another key.  Then they begin getting their own into various government agencies, what is typically called "weaponization".  Using someone's own laws and rules against them is key.  Sound familiar?

 Next start working the radicals into local elections.  These lower elected officials start making a lot of noise, which in turn gets lots of media attention, which in turn begins swaying public perception and creates the myth that the movement is huge.

 Another technique used is to crash the current system and replace it with their own.  Why do you think the radicals in congress keep wanting to hand out more and more money from the government?   It's unsustainable and will create a crash.

 The next technique?  Create an enemy that only they can define and see, and control.   Covid is perfect.  They control the information (and disinformation) on it, it creates fear and it has been proven to be extremely effective in control.

 All of this has been used and repeated with every overthrow.  There are more points, but I think you see the picture.   Again, we are not dealing with a huge part of the country. 

 The way to defeat these tyrannical leftist?  Expose them, stand up to them and fight back.

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