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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: June 14, 2022, 02:19:17 PM »
The following letter is a prime example of bureaucracy at its best. It was written and sent on 11 Jun 1942 by the CO of the USS Skipjack in an effort to get re-supply of a most important commodity. It did, however, ultimately result in the desired delivery.
Lt. Cmdr Coe was CO of the USS Skipjack when he wrote his famous "toilet paper" letter to the Mare Island Supply Office.
USS Skipjack (SS-184) near Mare Island in 1942
June 11, 1942
From: Commanding Officer
To: Supply Officer, Navy Yard, Mare Island, California
Via: Commander Submarines, Southwest Pacific
Subject: Toilet Paper
Reference: (a) USS HOLLAND (5148) USS SKIPJACK req. 70-42 of 30 July 1941.
(b) SO NYMI Canceled invoice No. 272836
Enclosure: (1) Copy of cancelled Invoice (2) Sample of material requested (a roll of toilet paper).
1. This vessel submitted a requisition for 150 rolls of toilet paper on July 30, 1941, to USS HOLLAND. The material was ordered by HOLLAND from the Supply Officer, Navy Yard, Mare Island, for delivery to USS SKIPJACK.
2. The Supply Officer, Navy Yard, Mare Island, on November 26, 1941, cancelled Mare Island Invoice No. 272836 with the stamped notation "Cancelled---cannot identify." This cancelled invoice was received by SKIPJACK on June 10, 1942.
3. During the 11 ¾ months elapsing from the time of ordering the toilet paper and the present date, the SKIPJACK personnel, despite their best efforts to await delivery of subject material, have been unable to wait on numerous occasions, and the situation is now quite acute, especially during depth charge attack by the "back-stabbers."
4. Enclosure (2) is a sample of the desired material provided for the information of the Supply Officer, Navy Yard, Mare Island. The Commanding Officer, USS SKIPJACK cannot help but wonder what is being used in Mare Island in place of this unidentifiable material, once well known to this command.
5. SKIPJACK personnel during this period have become accustomed to use of "ersatz," i.e., the vast amount of incoming non-essential paper work, and in so doing feel that the wish of the Bureau of Ships for the reduction of paper work is being complied with, thus effectively killing two birds with one stone.
6. It is believed by this command that the stamped notation "cannot identify" was possible error, and that this is simply a case of shortage of strategic war material, the SKIPJACK probably being low on the priority list.
7. In order to cooperate in our war effort at a small local sacrifice, the SKIPJACK desires no further action be taken until the end of the current war, which has created a situation aptly described as "war is hell."
J.W. Coe
Here is the rest of the story:
The letter was given to the Yeoman, telling him to type it up. Once typed and upon reflection, the Yeoman went looking for help in the form of the XO. The XO shared it with the OD and they proceeded to the CO's cabin and asked if he really wanted it sent. His reply, "I wrote it, didn't I?"
As a side note, twelve days later, on June 22, 1942 J.W. Coe was awarded the Navy Cross for his actions on the S-39.
The "toilet paper" letter reached Mare Island Supply Depot. A member of that office remembers that all officers in the Supply Department "had to stand at attention for three days because of that letter." By then, the letter had been copied and was spreading throughout the fleet and even to the President's son who was aboard the USS Wasp.
As the boat came in from her next patrol, Jim and crew saw toilet-paper streamers blowing from the lights along the pier and pyramids of toilet paper stacked seven feet high on the dock. Two men were carrying a long dowel with toilet paper rolls on it with yards of paper streaming behind them as a band played coming up after the roll holders. Band members wore toilet paper neckties in place of their Navy neckerchiefs. The wind-section had toilet paper pushed up inside their instruments and when they blew, white streamers unfurled from trumpets and horns.
As was the custom for returning boats to be greeted at the pier with cases of fresh fruit/veggies and ice cream, the Skipjack was first greeted thereafter with her own distinctive tribute-cartons and cartons of toilet paper.
This letter became famous in submarine history books and found its way to the movie ("Operation Petticoat"), and eventually coming to rest (copy) at the Navy Supply School at Pensacola, Florida. There, it still hangs on the wall under a banner that reads, "Don't let this happen to you!" Even John Roosevelt insured his father got a copy of the letter.
The original is at Bowfin Museum in Hawaii:
This page tells the story of the "Infamous Toilet Paper Letter" written and sent in 1942 by the CO of the USS Skipjack in an effort to get re-supply of a most important commodity. Updated 1/18/2013 to add photo of original document.

Spin Zone / Darrell Scott speech about Columbine killings
« on: June 06, 2022, 02:24:33 PM »
Guess our national leaders didn't expect this. On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.
They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.. The following is a portion of the transcript:
"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.
"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.
"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death.
Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.
I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.
Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!
"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.
"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!
My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
- Darrell Scott

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: May 31, 2022, 01:34:16 PM »
Some truth to this.

Spin Zone / White privilege card
« on: May 24, 2022, 09:21:18 AM »
I didn't write this.  Wish I had the name of the person who did to attribute it to him or her.

My  White Privilege Card is for sale. It's a little over 75 years old, but  in excellent condition. It has never been used, I want to sell it  because it has not done me any good. No free college, No free food, No  free housing, No free anything. I had to work very hard while paying an  incredible amount of taxes in order to support those who chose not to  work. If you’re interested I’ll accept cash, but I prefer an even trade  for a new or used Race Card which is more widely accepted and comes with  unending benefits.

Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: May 18, 2022, 12:51:29 PM »
Got this at 1445.  Took them damn near 2 hours.

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Pilot Zone / Re: Passenger revolt
« on: April 28, 2022, 10:53:14 AM »
On this divert they parked us across the airport at the FBO quite a ways from the terminal. The door never opened so we sat there until we could depart for JFK.
One flight I had we had to divert to Akron, OH because of weather and a closed rwy at Pittsburgh.  I had 6 pax whose ultimate destination was Akron, we were parked at the terminal so I was able to let them off.  We were delayed a little over 2 hours and we picked up 10 pax going to Pittsburgh.  So it worked out OK I found out later that most connections were made in PIT.

On another flight that I had to divert on we originated in Canada going to Boston and diverted to Manchester, NH, can't remember why on that flight.  We had to park at the FBO and had security around the plane as we were international and not in the 'secure area of the terminal'.  All of this was pre 9-11

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: April 14, 2022, 12:57:08 PM »
Several men are in the locker room of a golf club. A cellular phone on a
bench rings and a man engages the hands-free speaker function and begins to
talk. Everyone else in the room stops to listen.
MAN: “Hello”
WOMAN: “Hi Honey, it’s me. Are you at the club?”
MAN: “Yes.”
WOMAN: “I’m at the shops now and found this beautiful leather coat. It’s
only $2,000; is it OK if I buy it?”
MAN: “Sure, go ahead if you like it that much.”
WOMAN: “I also stopped by the Lexus dealership and saw the new models.
I saw one I really liked.”
MAN: “How much?”
WOMAN: “$90,000.” ;
MAN: “OK, but for that price I want it with all the options.”
WOMAN: “Great! Oh, and one more thing… I was just talking to Janie and
found out that the house I wanted last year is back on the market. They’re
asking $980,000 for it.”
MAN: “Well, then go ahead and make an offer of $900,000. They’ll probably
take it. If not, we can go the extra eighty-thousand if it’s what you
really want.”
WOMAN: “OK. I’ll see you later! I love you so much!”
MAN: “Bye! I love you, too.”
The man hangs up. The other men in the locker room are staring at him in
astonishment, mouths wide open.
He turns and asks, “Anyone know who’s phone this is.....

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: April 10, 2022, 03:36:07 PM »
Next Bond movie....

Spin Zone / Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
« on: March 19, 2022, 09:00:50 AM »
I've often wondered if Peppermint Pattie really believes the shit she's slinging out.  I've seen her get testy with some reporters and something in the back of my head says she really doesn't believe the crap.  Wonder how she sleeps at night and how much longer she's going to last where she is.

Spin Zone / Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
« on: March 14, 2022, 04:11:03 PM »
You’re exactly right. More evidence that democrats don’t give a flying fuck about blacks or other minorities.
My feeling is that dems do care about blacks and minorities but ONLY for their votes.

Spin Zone / Re: Canadian Trucker Convoy [emoji1063]🇺[emoji1213]🇦
« on: February 24, 2022, 06:38:40 PM »
Bunch of queer fbi shit heels.

Pussy scum bags.
Reminds me of times after 9-11.  We had US deputy marshalls that would ride with us.  The way they were dressed you could spot them from across the terminal.  I asked one why they didn't dress like normal passengers, his reply was that it was dictated by DC as he rolled his eyes.

Spin Zone / Re: Drama
« on: February 14, 2022, 02:06:34 PM »
I live on a street with one way in and out about 2 blocks long.  During the last snow storm a neighbor left his new white Toyota Camry in the street even though the city says during snow 'emergency' to NOT park in the street.  It was a near blizzard with blowing snow and the snow plow cut the drivers side open from stem to stern like a can opener.  Not sure but I think that totaled it.  Nobody around here is feeling sorry for him, he's also the type of guy who borrows tools and never returns them.

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: February 13, 2022, 11:11:50 AM »

Spin Zone / Re: Canadian Trucker Convoy [emoji1063]🇺[emoji1213]🇦
« on: January 29, 2022, 11:08:19 AM »
Brings this to mind.

Got a neighbor up the street who is a State Trooper.  Took it to him and when I read the UrL again I realized it was fake.  I sent it to his phone and he called it in to his headquarters.  He said they'll notify radio, TV and police departments in the state.  Just another scam.

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