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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 25, 2023, 09:19:34 AM »
Part of the problem is that if someone new (or not so new) says anything that isn't part of the Pilotspin Party line, they immediately get criticized from a dozen people.  Some criticisms are valid, some are not and some are just plane mean and insulting.  Trying to respond to such a deluge would be a herculean task and most people don't have the incentive to participate in such a one sided discussion.   Even if someone actually agrees with the majority, if they stray off the Pilotspin party line they get called a pussy, Rino, MSM tool.   Why would someone put up with that?
To be fair, I don’t think there is a PilotSpin party line. Certainly most of us are conservative, most have liked Trump when he was president, and many support him for another term.

I differ only on the latter. I think you and I are probably on the same page.  Willingly jumping off the Trump train for valid, realistic reasons is yielding attacks only from one person.  Many here disagree with my support for DeSantis, but all but one can debate the issue, and we can both learn from that debate.

I didn’t debate my daughter when she was a teenager, and I don’t debate adults when they act like children - or try not to, but sometimes it’s too much to ignore. 

Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 25, 2023, 08:02:50 AM »
Qualified immunity is not law passed by Congress nor is it in the Constitution. It was pretty much legislated by the bench and was a reaction to claims, true or not, of excessive police brutality against blacks. It is indeed abused but to what extent is debatable.  I am opposed to it on principle.  No one, law enforcement or not, violating a person’s fourth amendment rights, should be shielded from liability.  And it’s true we got along fine without it for most of our history.

But as a pragmatist, I worry that due to changing culture and demographics we are facing a critical shortage of police officers.  Ending qualified immunity may make this situation worse.  It is proven that strong policing cuts down on crime.  With the situation in the cities what they are, the last thing we want to do is weaken the police.  Even if ending qualified immunity doesn’t result in a dearth of policemen, it may result in police being reluctant to act for fear of lawsuits.

One solution is for municipalities to shield officers from liability (pay for their defense and any settlements).  I have a problem with the idea of low-salary police being open to high jury awards for trying to apprehend a criminal and making split second decisions under pressure. This hurts their families

On the other hand there are abusive cops, and corruption in many forces, and it is often the innocent, not criminals, who are victims of police “over-enthusiasm” and they deserve justice and compensation.

Having said all that, right now I don’t think it’s an issue Trump should press.  He will turn off libertarians and independents and he doesn’t need it to keep his MAGA core, so it’s not strategic, and he needs all the good strategy he can get to overcome the upcoming Democrat cheating.

2024 is more about getting rid of the Dems than about any of these myriad secondary issues.  Focus on the big ones and many of the small ones will take care of themselves. Crime was at its lowest when Trump was in office before the pandemic. Minority unemployment was at its lowest (there’s a correlation there).  Booming economy, low gas prices, no inflation, border under control, and no WW3.  Get that back:  Far more important than bickering over qualified immunity.

Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 20, 2023, 04:56:42 AM »
I have said many times that I don't personally like DT.  He is a self centered, narcissist jerk.  But back when he was President I liked almost all of the things he did.  But after losing the election he went off the rails.  Worse than even Hillary did.  I think he snapped and I don't want a President that has snapped.

If he gets in office again he’ll unsnap.

Spin Zone / Re: Trans activists storm, occupy state capitol
« on: February 10, 2023, 09:32:34 AM »
Fuck, I’m tired and would like to stop having to adult 24/7 and have a little fun.

When is the last time you've flown?

Spin Zone / Re: State of the Union thread
« on: February 09, 2023, 04:15:12 PM »
I mean, we’re going to need fossil fuels for at least another 10 years!

Either they are coming up with a substitute for plastics, or the faces of female politicians will begin to melt off their skulls in 11 years.

We have centuries of clean, domestic fossil fuels and finding more ever day. No need for replacements.

Spin Zone / Re: Chinese Spy Ballon Floating Acrosd America
« on: February 07, 2023, 09:31:07 AM »
Classified photo of the Ghost of Myrtle Beach.

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: February 04, 2023, 10:06:16 AM »

An elderly man rear ends a guy driving an expensive sports car. 
Enraged, the guy hops out of his car and confronts the old man.  “Look what you did to my car” he yells.  You’re gonna give me $10,000 right now or I’m gonna beat you to a bloody pulp!” 
“Oh my” says the old man, I don’t have that kind of money.  Let me call my son, he trains dolphins and he’ll know what to do." 
"Dolphins", the other driver huffs, while rolling his eyes.  The old man pulls out his phone, dials his son and just as the son answers, the irate man snatches the phone away from the old man. 
"So, YOU’RE a dolphin trainer, huh?  Well, your old man here just rear ended my car and I need ten grand right now or I’m gonna beat you AND your old man to a bloody pulp". 
"I’ll be there in 10 minutes, says the voice calmly on the other end". 
Exactly ten minutes later a jeep pulls up and a guy hops out and proceeds to pulverize the bully, leaving him in a bloody heap on the side of the road. 
When he’s finished, he walks over to his father and says:  “For the LAST TIME dad... I train SEALS... NAVY SEALS... NOT dolphins”

Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: January 23, 2023, 08:06:53 PM »
I went to the courthouse for jury duty today.  The website instructions had said in all caps:  MASKS ARE REQUIRED.

There were over a hundred of us in the potential jury pool.  I only saw 2 wearing masks.  They were old sick looking people who both asked to be excused.  None of the sheriff’s deputies, bailiffs, clerks, or judges had a mask.

Spin Zone / Re: The case against DeSantis
« on: January 02, 2023, 07:56:08 AM »
By "return to normal" I mean return to the Uniparty.  It's a swamp, dragging us ever closer to totalitarianism RINO rhetorical protestations notwithstanding.

If you think DeSantis has a better chance of winning, maybe it's because he's more likely to become swampy and the Dems know it.  Yes his net worth has a LOT to do with it. Trump is un-bribe-able.  There is no one else positioned like that who has proven to be on our side.  Maybe Elon Musk but he's FAR from what Trump is and not eligible to run anyway.
But at the end of the day, being able to win a general election means literally everything.  Do you really think Trump can win a general election?  He’s more damaged now than he was in November 2020.  Right or wrong, it is what it is. I wouldn’t put $1 on a bet that Trump can get a fraction of the votes he got in 2020.  “Abandoning” (your term) Trump doesn’t mean not appreciating that he was the most conservative president in my lifetime. It means I believe with every bone in my body that he will never get more than the GOP base, or 1/3rd of the electorate. That’s not enough, so I can’t back his candidacy.

DeSantis appears to be the most Trump-like candidate out there. He’s not perfect, but no politician is.  But DeSantis has helped turn Florida from purple to red. He got 500,000+ more votes in 2022 than he did in 2018, and won with 60% of the vote. He is appealing to a lot of Floridians, with good reason.

I’m not buying into Lucifer’s pessimism that the GOP will never win another presidency. I think that’s defeatist, and I don’t counter quitters. I’ll quit when I’m dead, but not before.

Spin Zone / Re: Merry Christmas!
« on: December 22, 2022, 07:33:20 PM »
Merry Christmas from the Wisconsin Northwoods! 

Spin Zone / Merry Christmas!
« on: December 22, 2022, 09:30:17 AM »
I wish you all, and all your families, a very Merry Christmas!

Spin Zone / Fun Watching Elon Destroy Leftitsts
« on: December 20, 2022, 05:49:04 PM »

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: December 16, 2022, 07:07:40 PM »

Spin Zone / Re: Another Happy Biden Voter!!
« on: December 10, 2022, 07:25:01 PM »
Might have to switch ships. Might be a reference to changing parties?
I really doubt that.  I'm thinking he meant a smaller airplane.

Spin Zone / Re: This one will get locked real soon now...
« on: December 02, 2022, 05:40:27 AM »
Certainly seems an odd thing to get hot and bothered about, especially considering that Christians account for ~63% of the population and self-identified atheists account for ~3%.

I sympathize with the feeling of persecution but continue to point out the no one demands you to use CE or BCE. Maybe, just maybe, you are engaging in persecution of people of other faiths for NOT using BC and AD. There are dozens of calendar systems in use (e.g. Chinese) but for global coherence in dating other people have graciously adopted the Gregorian system and a common year 1. Is it too much to ask that you find accommodation in this one thing in the interest of consistent numbering of years?

If you want to see real persecution in action, try acting openly as an atheist in any public capacity. Up until a 1961 AD SCOTUS ruling the following were the law in the respective state constitutions (and are still on the books):

Article 19, section 1: “No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court.”
Article 37: “That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.”
Article 14, section 265: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this State.”
North Carolina
Article VI, section 8: “The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.”
South Carolina
Article XVII, section 4: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution.”
Article IX, section 2: “No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishment, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.”
Article 1, section 4: “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.”


First, just to clarify, I wasn’t calling you or anyone else here a stupid idiot.  That was the generic “you”.

But you (actual you this time) are completely missing the point.  I don’t feel persecuted as a Christian.  I do not give two hoots about Christianity or atheism nor do I give two hoots about whether the naming convention has any relation to Christianity or not.  I feel persecuted as an old person who can’t learn new tricks!  All I’ve heard my whole life is BC and AD for whatever reason, maybe I’ve been culturally isolated in America.  Now it’s too late to change.  Every time I see BCE and CE it jars the hell out of me.  It’s unfamiliar.  Stop changing shit and get the fuck off my lawn.

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