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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy
« on: Today at 10:59:52 AM »
The masking, face burkas, face diapers, whatever, are the punishment from the progressives because we dare not to abide for their quest for power.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy
« on: Today at 09:08:16 AM »
https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/22/mask-fanatics-have-officially-abandoned-science-to-control-your-life/

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It’s nothing new for political religions to produce radicals that develop their own sects or cults. This time around, rigid devotion to enforcing mask compliance has produced runaway fanaticism based on nothing but blind faith that more mask-wearing is always better. Even the public health experts, whom these followers all promoted as great prophets just months ago, can’t tame their fervor.

That’s a problem, because a return to normalcy will require subduing radical factions that agitate for oppression. Restrictions such as mask mandates are like oxygen to followers of radical fundamentalist Covidianism — the abiding belief that only lockdowns, social distancing, and masks can deliver us from the deadly pandemic. The longer mandates stay in place and experts continue promoting mask use — “My mask protects you! Your mask protects me!” — the stronger and more widespread the extremism will grow, and the less influence experts will have over their behavior.

The evidence is abundant, but consider these three cases of radical Covidianism and how they trace back to an abandonment of the scientific standards necessary to maintain public health and a functioning society.
1. Ignore the Dangers of Masking While Exercising

First, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed an executive order last week requiring all nonprofessional sports players to wear masks. Athletes, except for swimmers, must wear masks while “training for, practicing for, or competing in an organized sport” if they cannot “consistently maintain 6 feet of distance.” There are no age-specific exceptions in the requirement, so it appears Whitmer’s mask mandate for children five years old and over applies.

Not only does this order contradict guidance from so-called experts, who say that people exercising should not wear masks because sweat can clog the mask fibers and make breathing difficult as well as “promote the growth of microorganisms,” but it overwrites Whitmer’s own order specifying that masks do not have to be worn during exercise “when wearing a face covering would interfere with the activity.”

How football, basketball, tennis, soccer, lacrosse, and other sports that aren’t golf or bowling don’t qualify as exercise that a mask “would interfere with” is beyond rationality. The science of sweat droplets clogging up mask fibers doesn’t change if a person is exercising by himself or in a competitive setting, yet one can see in these orders the progression away from science and toward the fanatical desire to control people’s behavior, regardless of the danger. While Whitmer says masks allow sports to resume, her requirement will likely mean exactly the opposite, as playing creates a health risk instead of a health benefit.
2. Mask the Babies

Second, a WestJet flight was canceled last week because a 19-month-old could not keep her mask on, despite the fact that infants and toddlers simply aren’t spreading the virus. The father, Safwan Choudhry, called it “horrific and dehumanizing treatment.” You can see what appear to be WestJet crew members harassing the poor family here:

Transport Canada’s official guidance for travelers says explicitly, “The following people should not wear a mask … children under 2 years old.” Yet WestJest crew members, according to Choudhry, wrongly cited the guidance as requiring his infant to wear a mask. Official rules are apparently no hindrance to the mask crusaders, who will defend their universal masking standard to the point of canceling a flight.
3. Wear a Mask When You’re Alone

Not to be outdone in anti-science zeal for total conformity, however, the third example is the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, which has asked agency employees to wear masks while teleconferencing from home. Natural Resources Secretary Preston Cole said in a July 31 email that in order to set a “safety example” showing that employees “care about the safety and health of others,” they should wear a mask while participating in virtual meetings “that involve being seen.”

The medical director of infection control at UW Health, Nasia Safdar, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that beyond protecting oneself from somebody else in the house with COVID-19, “there’s no reason to routinely wear a mask in your home if the risk isn’t there.”

This is what happens, however, when scientific standards are abandoned for political goals only loosely tied to public health: Pseudo-scientific fanaticism develops, and its followers are obsessed with gaining compliance, not saving lives. One can draw a straight line from the initial departure from scientific evidence on lockdowns to the current coronavirus extremism, which only increases in intensity as deaths and hospitalizations decline.
Mask Fanatics Are the Real Science Deniers

Lockdowns were once called an “unproven” hypothesis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, its models of efficacy being invalidated by “empirical data.” The World Health Organization called forced isolation and quarantine “ineffective and impractical.” Yet despite the devastating effects of banning “nonessential” businesses and social activities, countries around the world locked down.

Groupthink on non-pharmaceutical interventions spurred an uncontrolled drift away from scientific justifications toward hasty generalized rules predicated on an “abundance of caution” and straight-up fear. Fear quickly turned into a tool for maintaining political power and an opportunity for self-righteous snitches to exercise control over their fellow countrymen. Snitch-level devotion to harsh government mandates devolved into a religion in its own right, and now we must suffer oppression not just from authorities, but from private companies and our fellow citizens.

One can draw numerous examples of Covidian jihad from any given week of these hellish past six months, but the progression is obvious. In April, a father was arrested for playing softball with his family in an open field in compliance with state orders. In July, a woman was berated by a fanatical old lady at the superstore for not masking her children, who are a risk approaching zero for spreading the virus.

Now heading into fall, some people are being asked to wear masks alone in their own homes, out in open parks, and while exercising. They’re supposed to strap them onto infants and toddlers, who are essentially at zero risk for spreading the Wuhan virus, and they aren’t ever supposed to complain about dental problems, headaches, or dizziness while mask-wearing — because every good COVID Karen knows masks are harmless.

This is our world in 2020. Ironically, not even the experts can keep pro-lockdown, pro-mask fanatics from harassing and endangering others. If you want to prevent this reality from becoming permanent, stand up to the bullies and stand firm on the science — including voting out politicians who’ve abandoned science and recalling those who aren’t up for re-election in November.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy
« on: Today at 07:29:41 AM »
It has almost totally replaced man Made Climate Change as their way of taking control, although they still harp about it occasionally, the MEDIA (also the Democrats) is totally Virus Panic and Systemic Racism 24/7.

Look at how many decades they have tried to use the climate hoax as their boogeyman.   Never gained traction.

But yet the scamdemic shut down the economy in two weeks.  And 6 months later they still have control, and will have for the next several months.

 The vaccine will do little for covid, that's been admitted.  Effective treatments have been shunned because it would end the scam quickly.   We're being told " we can ease restrictions once a vaccine is in place and being administered".   Yea right.

 Just wait, flu season is upon us.  The seasonal flu and CV19 will be conflated, and more restrictions and draconian rules are coming.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy
« on: Today at 07:11:26 AM »
The Democrats and Media are using this to take away Rights guaranteed by the Constitution.  This is the biggest power grab and tyrannical over reach since the War of Northern Aggression.  Along with mail in voting and other voter fraud they want to also steal the election and make these restrictions permanent for "the public good".  The Cold civil war which has gotten warmer in big cities and elsewhere that we are witnessing is going to go hot.

 The virus is the biggest dream come true for the progressives.   They now have in their arsenal and playbook a way to bring the country to a halt, suspend rights and force the population into compliance with whatever they want.   Pandora's box indeed.

 They are not going to freely give up their newfound toy.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy
« on: Today at 06:00:22 AM »
The goal post keeps moving.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases-deaths-continue-two-month-decline-officials-pledge

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Numerous high-ranking public authorities throughout the United States have pledged to continue enforcing COVID-19 restrictions — including social distancing rules and mask mandates — even as cases of and deaths attributed to the virus continue a steady two-month decline throughout the country.

Those officials have signaled that the restrictions will not be lifted unless and until an effective vaccine is developed, approved, distributed throughout the country and utilized by enough of the population to create functional herd immunity.

The restrictions, which have become ubiquitous parts of American life since March, have included the mandatory use of face coverings when in public places (including outdoor locations in some jurisdictions) and the enforcement of "social distancing" rules to keep individuals at least six feet away from each other. The latter rules have been applied to businesses in the form of occupancy limits, with restaurants and other stores being required to cap their patron limit at 50% and even 25% in the case of many eat-in establishments.

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White House coronavirus adviser Anthony Fauci has also repeatedly asserted that a vaccine is the only practical way by which normal life might resume in the U.S. Yet he said earlier this month that, even when a vaccine is developed, it could be over a year before people are permitted to resume their pre-COVID lives.

"If you're talking about getting back to a degree of normality which resembles where we were prior to Covid, it's going to be well into 2021, maybe even towards the end of 2021," he said.

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Spin Zone / Covidiocy
« on: September 21, 2020, 02:44:23 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/stunning-reversal-cdc-says-it-published-new-guidance-risks-airborne-covid-19-error

In Stunning Reversal, CDC Says It Published New Guidance On Risks Of 'Airborne' COVID-19 "In Error"

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After publishing guidance warning about the serious risks of "airborne" infection associated with SARS-CoV-2, the CDC just seriously harmed its own credibility by acknowledging Monday that it had posted the new guidance "in error", following a pressure campaign from the WHO.

Scientists have been gathering evidence that the novel coronavirus plaguing the world spreads via aerosol particles practically since it first emerged, and back in July, a group of 200 scientists sent a letter to the WHO urging the international public health agency to change its guidance on the spread of the disease. The problem scientists argued is that the WHO hasn't updated its views to incorporate new research showing that aerosol spread is a much greater threat than touching contaminated surfaces, or via large droplets spread by close contact between individuals.

Yet, the WHO has refused these overtures, and this week it successfully convinced the CDC to do the same.

After the WHO announced earlier that it had reached out to the CDC over the guidance change, the agency informed American media outlets that a "draft version" of the guidance had been "posted in error".

    "A draft version of proposed changes to these recommendations was posted in error to the agency’s official website," the CDC said. "CDC is currently updating its recommendations regarding airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). Once this process has been completed, the update language will be posted."

Even so, the American media has grown increasingly convinced that aerosols significantly contribute to overall spread of the virus, with ABC News suggesting yesterday that expensive UV-light powered surface cleaners were merely examples of "hygiene theater". For months, the CDC has insisted that these large droplets are the primary mode of transmission, which is why - it argued - people must wear masks in public, because masks are effective at blocking large particles.

However, masks - at least, homemade clothe masks with imperfect seals - aren't as effective at filtering all aerosol particles. Furthermore, research suggests aerosol particles released when a person sneezes can reach up to 26 feet.

Experts quoted in the US press reports are already slamming the CDC for injecting more confusion into the conversation surrounding COVID-19 prevention at a particularly risky time. After all, schools are still reopening across the US and many are diving headlong into the unknown, fearful that all of this activity could cause another wave of the pandemic, as Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned yesterday.

The FDA is already under fire for its allegedly "premature" approval of convalescent plasma, which critics claim is the result of untoward political pressure from the president. On Friday, the CDC also abandoned controversial guidance saying not everybody who comes into contact with an infected person needs to be tested, and that tests should only be required for those experiencing symptoms.

All this scrutiny is helping to cement a new nickname for the agency.

"Center for Damage Control"


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Spin Zone / Re: RGB is Dead
« on: September 21, 2020, 08:32:26 AM »
Trump announced that out of respect to RBG he'll wait until after the services to announce his nomination to the Supreme Court.  Given that, I expect the Democrats to have her lie in state for the next two months.

The “RBG Funeral Tour” will now be held through January 19th, 2021. 

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Spin Zone / Re: RGB is Dead
« on: September 21, 2020, 07:55:07 AM »
That’s the test. What would the democrats do in the identical situation? 

They would have a nominee and hearings before the justice’s body was cold.

And RBG's funeral would turn into a political rally....................

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Spin Zone / Re: so NOW the government cares about the flu?
« on: September 20, 2020, 04:51:23 PM »

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Spin Zone / An Open Letter to the Liberal Left
« on: September 20, 2020, 05:48:24 AM »
( I did not write this, but found it highly appropriate)
_____________________________

“If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump,

and cannot possibly fathom why anyone would ever vote for him,

let me fill you in.

It’s not that we love Donald Trump so much. It’s that we can’t stand what you are doing!

And we will do whatever it takes, even if that means electing a rude, obnoxious, unpredictable, narcissist (your words not ours) to the office of President of the United States — because the thing we find more dangerous to this nation than Donald Trump is YOU.

How is that possible you might ask?

You have done everything in your power to destroy our country.

From tearing down the police, to tearing down our history, to tearing down our borders.

From systematically destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids

into believing socialism is the answer to anything

(despite Socialism being an unmitigated failure everywhere),

while demonizing religion and faith, and glorifying abortion, violence, and thug culture.


You call us racists every time we expect everyone of any skin color to follow our laws equally to gaslighting us about 52 genders, polyamory, grown men in dresses sharing public locker rooms with little girls, and normalize the sexualization of young children.

You simultaneously ridicule us for having the audacity to wish someone a “Merry Christmas” or hang a flag on the 4th of July, stand for the national anthem, or (horror of horrors)

don a MAGA hat in public.

So much for your “tolerance.” You show no tolerance to anyone!

(Do you see why we think you are just hypocrites??)


We’re also not interested in the fact that you think you can unilaterally decide that 250 years of the right-to-bear-arms against a tyrannical or ineffective government should be abolished because you can’t get the violence in the cities you manage under control.

That free-speech should be tossed out the window,

and that those who disagree with your opinions are fair game for public harassment or doxing. You think that spoiled children with nose-rings and tattoos,

who still live off their parent’s dime

should be allowed to destroy cities and peoples livelihoods without repercussions.

You think that chaos, and lawlessness, and disrespect for authority should be the norm.

This is your agenda.


And you wonder why we find you more dangerous than Donald Trump?

Your narrative is a constant drone of oppressor/oppressed race-baiting

intended to divide the country in as many ways as you possibly can.

You love to sell “victim-hood” to people of color every chance you get

because it’s such an easy sell,

compared to actually teaching people to stand on their own two feet

and take personal responsibility for their own lives

and their own communities and their own futures.

But you won’t do that, you will never do that,

because then you will lose control over people of color.

They might actually start thinking for themselves, God forbid!


This is why we will vote for Donald Trump.

Not because he is the most charming character on the block.

Not because he is the most polite politician to have ever graced the oval office.

Not because he is the most palatable choice,

or because we love his moral character or because the man never lies,

but because we are sick and tired of you and all of the destructive chaos

that you are doing to this once beautiful and relatively safe country of ours.


Your ineffective and completely dysfunctional liberal “leadership”

has literally destroyed our most beautiful cities, our public education system,

and done it’s darnedestto rip faith out of people’s lives.


However bad Donald Trump may be, and he is far from perfect,

every day we look at you and feel that no matter what Donald Trump says or does there is no possible way he could be any worse for our country than you people are.

We are sick to death of your stupid, destructive, ignorant, and intolerant behavior and beliefs — parading as “wokeness.”We are beyond sick of your hypocrisy and B.S.


We are fed up with your disrespectful divisiveness and constant unrelenting harping and whining and complaining (while you live in the most privileged nation in the world), while making literally zero contributions of anything positive to our society. Your entire focus is on ripping things down, never ever building anything up.

Think about that as there is something fundamentally very wrong in the psychology of people who choose destruction as their primary modus operandi.

When Donald J Trump is reelected, don’t blame us,

look in the mirror and blame yourselves.

Because you are the ones that are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump.

You are the ones who have created this "monster" that you so despise, by your very actions.

By your refusal to respect your fellow Americans, and the things that are important to us.


You have made fun of the “fly-over states,” the people who “cling to their guns and religion,” the middle class factory workers and coal miners and underprivileged rural populations that you dismissively call “yahoos” and “deplorables.”

You have mocked our faith and our religion.

You have mocked our values and our patriotism.

You have trampled our flag and burned it

and insulted our veterans and treated our first responders with contempt and hatred.


You have made environmentalism your religion,

while trashing every city you have taken responsibility for.

You scream from the rooftops about “global warming” and a “green new deal”

while allowing tens of thousands of homeless people to cover your streets in literal sh!t and garbage and needles and plastic waste without doing a single thing to help them or solve the environmental crisis your failed social policies are creating.

But we’re supposed to put YOU in charge of the environment while gutting our entire economy to institute this plan when you can’t even clean up a single city?


You complain — endlessly — yet have failed to solve a single social problem anywhere.

In fact, all you have done is create more of them.

We’ve had enough!

We are tired of quietly sitting by and being the “silent” majority.

So don’t be surprised when the day comes when we finally respond.

And trust me it’s coming, sooner than you might think.

And also trust me when I say it won’t be pretty. Get ready.

When Donald J. Trump is reelected it will be because you and your “comrades” have chosen to trash the police, harass law-abiding citizens, and go on rampages destroying public property that we have all paid for and you have zero respect for.

When Donald J. Trump is reelected it will be because we are sick of your complete and utter nonsense and destruction. How does it feel to know that half of this country finds you FAR more despicable than Donald J. Trump, the man you consider to be the anti-Christ?

Let that sink in.


We consider you to be more despicable, more dangerous, more stupid,

and more narcissistic than Donald Trump ever could be.

Maybe allow yourself a few seconds of self-reflection to let that sink in.

This election isn’t about Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden.

This is about Donald Trump vs YOU.


So if on the morning of November 4 (or more likely January 19,

by the time the Supreme Court will weigh in on the mail-in ballot fiasco that we are headed towards), and Donald J. Trump is reelected?

The only people you have to blame is the left-wing media drones and yourselves.

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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: September 20, 2020, 05:37:41 AM »
    There was this man who walked into a bar and says to the bartender 10 shots of whiskey.
    The bartender asks, “What’s the matter?”
    The man says, “I found out my brother is gay and marrying my best friend.”
    The next day the same man comes in and orders 12 shots of whiskey. The bartenders asks, “What’s wrong this time?”
    The man says, “I found out that my son is gay.”
    The next day the same man comes in the bar and orders 15 shots of whiskey. Then the bartender asks, “Doesn’t anyone in your family like women?”
    The man looks up and says….

    “Apparently my wife does.”

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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: September 20, 2020, 05:37:01 AM »
    I lived in a houseboat for a while, and started seeing the girl next door. Eventually we drifted apart.

    My boyfriend tried to make me have sex on the hood of his Honda Civic. I refused. If I’m going to have sex, it is going to be on my own Accord.

    A man tried to sell me a coffin today. I told him, that’s the last thing I need.

    This is so disappointing. CNN reported today that Walt Disney’s new film called Jet Black, the African-American version of Snow White, has been cancelled. All the Seven dwarfs: Dealer, Stealer, Mugger, Forger, Drive-By, Homeboy & Shank have refused to sing Hi Ho Hi Ho because they say it offends Black Prostitutes. They also say they’re ain’t no way in hell they’re gonna sing “It’s Off To Work We Go”.

    The neighborhood barber just got arrested for selling drugs. We had been his customers for 8 years. We had no idea he was a barber.

    100 years ago everyone had a horse and only the rich had cars. Nowadays everyone has a car and only the rich have horses. Oh how the stables have turned.

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Pilot Zone / Re: Commercial flights...
« on: September 20, 2020, 05:35:01 AM »
when?

when we flatten the curve.

oh wait, that already happened.

When the positive test rate is below 5%

oh wait, that already happened.

What there is a vaccine and/or viable treatment.

Yeah, that's it.

The goalpost won't be moved again.  We promise.  Trust us.

Flu season is coming.   If someone gets sick, how do we know if it's the flu or covid?   Could be both.

Keep social distancing.   Keep masking.  Keep businesses reduced or closed.   And for god's sake, STAY HOME!!!!

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Pilot Zone / Re: Commercial flights...
« on: September 20, 2020, 05:31:50 AM »
...and Covid. I’m traveling in a couple weeks and booked my flight with a reasonable layover arriving at my destination at 6 pm, only to have the airline cancel the second leg and put me on a later flight, leaving me with a six hour layover and arrival at 10 pm. No. I changed everything around thank God at no cost to me. Now I have a barely adequate layover and arrive at 2 pm.

I’m sick of this. When will things get back to normal?

 Don't look for any normalcy until 2021. 

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