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Spin Zone / Re: The Kid Who Wore Blackface
« on: Today at 07:27:40 AM »

Leftists should be ashamed of what they've tried to do to this kid.  Using a side profile picture to claim he wore blackface to the game.  Is there nothing the will not do?

   They simply can't.  Anything and anyone if fair game to the communist left.   Destroying lives is acceptable to advance narratives.  Even using deceptive photo angles, or outright lies is acceptable and encouraged if it benefits them.

   I'll keep saying this:  The communist left knows they are in trouble and their agenda is failing.   The desperation is setting in, and they will stop at nothing to win.  These are totalitarians, and they will use totalitarian methods against anyone who is perceived as the enemy (you). 

  Get ready for a wild and bumpy ride in 2024.   Build up a stock of storable food supplies.   Keep a supply of drinking water on hand.  Make a small first aid kit, and a kit of common antibiotics available.    You are going to witness things you never thought would happen on our soil.

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: Today at 06:14:14 AM »

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: Today at 06:13:07 AM »

Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 27, 2023, 06:22:15 PM »
That's what I expected.
You won't tell me where I'm wrong because I'm not.

  You have a minimal understanding of the subject.  It goes a lot further in-depth than you understand.  Your reasoning on it is the same tripe people uneducated on the subject babble about when the subject is brought up.

Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 27, 2023, 05:54:18 PM »
You have said that before.

What I read is that there are no rules about how it actually works.
If that is incorrect, I am willing to listen to your opinion of how it actually works.

Why do you think a CoS will magically give you everything you want?

It takes 34 states to vote to convene a CoS.  Currently, there are 4 issues that 28 states have separately signed on to, but not all 28 states have signed on to the same issues.

I don't understand why you think a CoS will deliver everything you want.  I admit that maybe I am ignorant, so educate me.

  Please show me where I wrote it would deliver everything I want.

  And no, I'm not going to take the time to write a column to "educate" you.   Learn to do your own research.


Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 27, 2023, 03:36:23 PM »
I suspect what we would actually get from a CoS is abortion on demand, stricter gun control and illegal alien voting rights.

  Please go read on how a Convention of States actually works.

Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 27, 2023, 11:13:04 AM »
Bill Maher can also be a critical thinker at times. I’m surprised he swallows the “most secure election of all time” nonsense.  He’s smarter than that, but suffers a severe case of TDS.

  They have to keep repeating it.  If it ever gets verified, the ramifications will become a tsunami.   First, both major parties will be destroyed forever.

  Second, election laws will be tightened with zero loopholes (think paper ballots and voter id, with secured vote counting).   Third, every law signed by the imposter will be invalidated, every executive order litigated.

  Fourth, every elected representative that has taken an oath to uphold the constitution (all of them) will come under severe scrutiny for voting to certify an illegitimate election. 

  IMO if ever proven (we all know it was stolen) we would see a movement towards a Article V Convention, with a host of amendments such as balanced budget, term limits and even more election control.

  Just like the JFK assassination, the government will hide and conceal the 2020 theft for decades to come. 

  Finally, this is another reason I have doubts Trump will be the nominee in 2024.   They know he will work to uncover the lies and expose them.   During his administration JFK told several administration officials "I will splinter the CIA into a million pieces and scatter them into the wind", and we know how they dealt with that.

Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 27, 2023, 08:57:40 AM »

Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 27, 2023, 08:44:58 AM »
Kind of like spending $25MM branding DeSantis as establishment.

  Where has the majority of RDS campaign money come from?   Ask Lee Zeldin why RDS ditched Zeldin's campaign event, then lied to the media about it.

   Ask RDS about his Palm Beach fund raising events he hosted for high end establishment donors.   You may want to also ask RDS about why so many of his advisors have republican establishment ties.

  RDS will use whatever he needs to advance RDS.  I get that, he's a politician.   RDS won the governor office very narrowly the first time, and the only reason he pulled out a win was on the endorsement of DJT.   So RDS was MAGA, and even used it in his ads to sway Trump supporters to vote for him.   On his second governor election he once again used Trump's endorsement and also played up to get Trump supporters to support him, and he won easily.

  Then, RDS listened as the establishment republicans were desperately looking for someone to keep DJT from running.  RDS surrounded himself with establishment advisors, and they in turn began fund raising with the establishment donors.   The establishment thought RDS's success on re-election to governor would enable him to keep and hold the Trump supporters as he would be seen as the successor to the MAGA agenda.   The establishment severely miscalculated and immediately began loosing support.

   Another huge problem with RDS is his inability to run a national campaign.  Again, using establishment campaigning techniques the messaging doesn't resonate with the core voters.   As of right now RDS will not even be able to win his own state in the primaries.  That's devastating for a campaign.

  In retrospect, had RDS got behind DJT he would have probably been in line to a VP pick, which would have carried him into 2028 easily and a re-election in 2032.   Even if not picked for the VP in 2024, finishing his term as Governor and perhaps a run for the senate would have been easy and better positioned himself for later.

  Any way you look at it, RDS made a major mistake aligning himself with the republican establishment.

Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 27, 2023, 08:11:32 AM »

November 25, 2023
Even Oliver Stone is starting to question the 2020 election
By Monica Showalter

Oliver Stone is a Hollywood leftist who has an odd way of being right at times.

His Academy Award-winning JFK was dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

Turns out he was likely closer to right all along -- as Tucker Carlson noted in one of this segments.

That's not the only one. His South of the Border documentary about Latin America's wave of elected leftist dictators was initially criticized as Chavista propaganda, a glossing over of some of the region's worst rulers ... except that if you watch the thing, which I did twice, you realize he did an extraordinary job of revealing these people as the unattractive pigs that they were. Sleazy, covetous, Imelda-like, sidelong, gangsterly ... he actually exposed them in all their glory in a way their worst critics couldn't. That was a useful record of the era.

He's criticized government bureaucracies' demonization of ivermectin and vaccine mandates which is credibility right there.

His criticism of the way the Vietnam War was run by vested interests and swamp bureaucrats was probably spot on, too.

So now he's dropped another truth bomb, or at least is circling around it.

According to RealClearPolitics, which showed a segment and transcript of Stone conversing with Bill Maher:

Some of the transcript (they go off on tangents) is here, emphasis mine:

MAHER: Well, I mean, [Trump] doesn't concede elections. You know, the elections only count if we win theory of government. Okay. Well, come on. You know, Trump has he still has not conceded the election. He has not conceded. He does not honor them. Okay.

STONE: I mean, do you know for a fact that he lost? I'm just curious.

MAHER: Okay. You're going to make me --

STONE: I just don't know all of the facts.

MAHER: Well I do. Is there a conspiracy theory that you don't believe?

STONE: Come on, Bill. You know I'm intelligent.

MAHER: Intelligent? Of course you are. But look, look, I've had many people sit here and I'd say the same thing to them. Like, the key to getting along in America is not getting into these tribal things. It's understanding that you can have somebody in your life who you go for A, B, C, and D, We are so aligned and the person is so smart and they really get it.

And then E each of you thinks the other one's crazy and there's a couple of those with us, but we got A, B, C, and D, and so we just.

OLIVER STONE: We'll start with that.

MAHER: Yes, that's got to be enough. You can't make people like agree with you on these things. And you're right when you --

STONE: I'm just asking you, I'm not an expert on the election. I don't go on. I'm not a political junkie. You are. And you follow it very closely. Okay.

MAHER: All right, then I'll give you the thumbnail sketch. They tried it in like 60 courts. It was laughed out of every court, including by Republican judges. Report The people who save this democracy were Republicans. Good Republicans. In states where Trump pressured them like the guy, the one he's on trial for in Georgia. Find me 11,000 votes. It's on tape.

A guy like that saying to him, sir, we just don't do that here. I voted for you. I'm a Republican, but we just don't do that. That's what saved us. And they were Republicans. So you don't take their word for it. I mean, it would.

STONE: I don't know. I mean, you went through the 2000 election. That was horrifying to me. What happened when the Supreme Court closed that down. What happened there? You know, the popular vote was --

MAHER: What should we do? Do we just keep counting votes forever? Or should we still be counting them now?

STONE: No. Count them correctly.

MAHER: The people who have testified that this was a fair and will [sic] run election. It's a who's who of people like Bill Barr. Mitch McConnell. You're talking about Liz Cheney. You're talking about dyed in the wool, serious conservative Republicans who went with Trump really further out than a lot of us thought they would go with a guy like McCain's not a war hero.


STONE: Well, I don't know the facts. And I think I would trust the accountants more than the politicians. And I'd like to know what the accountants, the guys who vote, who know the most about votes, who do the Electoral Commission's, you know. I can't take Biden's word for it on anything.

MAHER: It's not his word. It's the Electoral Commission. It's Trump's own election security guy who said this was the most fair, well-run election that we've had ever.

STONE: Really?


STONE: I don't know about that. Okay. I don't know about that.

MAHER: Well, I mean, if there's nothing that can be said or argued that would convince you --

STONE: You, I think it would shock people --

MAHER: Then they called it --

STONE: -- Joe [Biden] got so many got so many votes. You know, that was what was shocking, that he did so well compared to what he was expected to do --

MAHER: Right.

STONE: -- because we believed all the East Coast media --

That's the thinking of an independent thinker, someone who asks again and again what we really know from hard knowledge and what we really know only from the press.

It's startling in its candor, not a full-blown admission of Trump support, but a person who can critically think and use his own knowledge to reason out strange things that have happened since. He cites the bad media treatment of Pete Rose as his theory on why people stick close to Trump, and his experience with the 2000 election, which he seems to think as stolen, as something that leaves the realm of stolen elections a distinct possibility since he believes it has happened before.

His views are not all that 'conspiratorial' as Maher seemed to want to dismiss them as. Polls show that a majority of Republicans believe the elections these days do have fraud -- as do a sizable minority of Democrats. They didn't get into it in the conversation, but many Democrats think our elections are compromised by cheating.

Stone stood his ground and didn't back away from the questions that Maher had no serious answers to -- claiming that the press, numerous neverTrumps and many neverTrump judges had reported the election as free and fair. Just because someone says so does not make it so, and that was why Maher kept misfiring at Stone and Stone held his ground. Stone also suggested that there were a lot of liars out there -- from the COVID shambles around vaccines and the like, to Joe Biden himself, whom he couldn't bring himself to believe a word he said.

One can only hope that Stone looks at this matter ever more closely. He's onto something. He's sniffing, he's asking questions and he might come up with a tremendous new work from it. Once again, he could be confoundingly correct.

Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 27, 2023, 07:43:53 AM »
Since when does small government and free market mean “far right”?

   Smears.   Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.   This is the media complex and their attempt to paint anything conservative as evil.

   The FJB regime is doing this with "MAGA".  With the help of the media, they are trying to equate MAGA with NAZI.   They keep this up with the hopes that eventually people will start to believe it.  Listen to how FJB says MAGA, how he feigns disgust in saying it.

   They are also trying to say MAGA is a "cult".   It's all clever word play, and the weak minded fall for it.

   And don't think all of this is coming from the communist democrats.  Their partners in the establishment right are all to eager to join in and help them out.

Spin Zone / Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
« on: November 27, 2023, 07:05:05 AM »

Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 27, 2023, 07:02:48 AM »

Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: November 27, 2023, 06:42:52 AM »
• So now cocaine is legal in Oregon, but straws aren’t. That must be frustrating.


• Still trying to get my head around the fact that ‘Take Out’ can mean food, dating, or murder.


• Being popular on Facebook is like sitting at the ‘cool table’ in the cafeteria of a mental hospital.


• I too was once a male trapped in a female body…but then my mother gave birth.


• If only vegetables smelled as good as bacon.


• When I lost the fingers on my right hand in a freak accident, I asked the doctor if I would still be able to write with it.  He said, “Probably, but I wouldn’t count on it.”


• Anyone who says their wedding was the best day of their life has clearly never had two candy bars fall down at once from a vending machine.


• We live in a time where intelligent people are silenced so that stupid people won’t be offended.


• After watching how some people wore their masks I understand why contraception fails.


• For those of you who don’t want Alexa or Siri listening in on your conversation, they are making a male version….it doesn’t listen to anything.


• I just got a present labeled, ‘>From Mom and Dad’, and I know darn well Dad has no idea what’s inside.


• Now that Covid has everyone washing their hands correctly…next week…Turn Signals.


• Someone said, “Nothing rhymes with orange.”  I said, “No, it doesn’t.”


• The pessimist complains about the wind.  The optimist expects it to change.  The realist adjusts his sails.


• There’s a fine line between a numerator and a denominator  Only a fraction of people will find this funny.


• Reading gives us someplace to go when we have to stay where we are.


• I have many hidden talents.  I just wish I could remember where I hid them.


• If Adam and Eve were Cajuns they would have eaten the snake instead of the apple and saved us all a lot of trouble.


• My idea of a Super Bowl is a toilet that cleans itself.


• Weight loss goal: To be able to clip my toenails and breathe at the same time.


• Apparently exercise helps you with decision-making.  It’s true.  I went for a run this morning and decided I’m never going again.


• Threw out my back sleeping, and tweaked my neck sneezing so I’m probably just one strong fart away from complete paralysis.


• Some of my friends exercise every day. Meanwhile I am watching a show I don’t like because the remote fell on the floor.


• It’s weird being the same age as old people.


• We celebrated last night with a couple of adult beverages … Metamucil and Ensure.


• You know you’re over 50 when you have ‘upstairs ibuprofen’ and ‘downstairs ibuprofen’.


• How did doctors come to the conclusion that exercise prolongs life, when

    …the rabbit is always jumping but only lives for around two year, and

    …the turtle that doesn’t exercise at all, lives over 200 years.


• I woke up this morning determined to drink less, eat right, and exercise.  But that was four hours ago when I was younger and full of hope.


• You know you are getting old when friends with benefits means having someone who can drive at night.


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