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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 18, 2021, 01:23:09 PM »
Quote from: Kristin on January 18, 2021, 12:49:18 PM
So how do you define "canceling"?  There are certainly folks here trying to intimidate me to leave.

Oh please.  Nice try playing the victim.

Conservatives are getting fired, posts deleted, statements silenced, book contracts terminated, networks threatened, advertisers threatened, radio stations threatened for having a conservative talk radio host, speaking engagements canceled, doxed, threatened in public, means of communications cut off, businesses and livelihoods threatened from both public threats and governmental threats including fines, loss of business licenses, etc.  For decades the left wore “Coexist” bumper stickers. Now we see they never ever meant it.

Let’s all play adult now. There’s nothing funny about the assault on freedom and liberty.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 17, 2021, 10:36:10 AM »
Quote from: Kristin on January 16, 2021, 11:57:16 AM
Given the premise is false, the question lacks meaning.
False because CNN declared it so?  The courts have almost in universally punted and did not examine the facts. That happened in PA, and it happened in Wisconsin, where Justice Hagedorn said that the Trump campaign should have challenged irregularities before the election, and presumably before they occurred, but because they challenged it after the election, they were too late to overturn the vote, so they elected not to address any claims brought forth.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 14, 2021, 05:33:12 PM »
Quote from: bflynn on January 14, 2021, 05:01:15 PM
Where did I use the word criminal?  Impeachment and trial determines someone staying in office and/or being disqualified from hold further office. Coincidental to the trial, it is possible for criminal charges to be filed, but that has nothing to do with the Congressional process.

Trump has already been impeached. Read the Constitution, the section on the Senate trial. Do not insert words that are not there. Where does it restrict the senate trial?
You didn’t use criminal; I did to make the distinction.

I don’t need to insert any words at all.

In addition to impeachment language in Article I, Article II Section 4 says:

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

The operative term is “The President”, and the required action is “Conviction.”  At noon on January 20th, Donald J. Trump will not be President.  The Senate can convict the President, but can’t convict a private citizen. End of story.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 14, 2021, 11:12:04 AM »
Quote from: Jim Logajan on January 14, 2021, 10:16:06 AM
You’re correct except that impeachment covers more than the president:

“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

As to punishment:

“The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.”
Yes, I know others can be impeached. The point I was making, obviously inarticulately, is that once the POTUS is no longer POTUS, the Constitutional remedy of Impeachment is null and void. A former president is a private citizen, and a private citizen cannot be impeached.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 14, 2021, 06:17:38 AM »
Quote from: bflynn on January 14, 2021, 06:03:44 AM
For a document you claim to revere so deeply, you should spend more time with it.

Point to where it says a president cannot be convicted after leaving office. I’ll save you time, it isn’t there. Therefore the Constitution not only does not restrain the Democrats from trying him, it shouldn’t because there is nothing there.  The only restriction is impeachment by the House, which has happened.

It’s true that he cannot be removed from office anymore, but are you not remembering the second clause which prohibits Trump from holding office or receiving honors. 

I know that one has to sting, but if it’s consolation, it’s unlikely Democrats can bring any proof that Trump caused the riot...because he didn’t. When it comes down to it, Republicans will do well to draw out the proceedings as long as possible because Democrats are going to look worse and worse as it goes along.

They have been emotional, like you have been.  You may believe me to be stupid, but I will never reach your level of stupid without significant help.
You cannot be this dense. I’ve read the Constitution. Impeachment is a “Remedy,” not a criminal conviction in the legal sense, and in this case reserved for the President of the United States.

Trump ceases being President of the United States at Noon on January 2021. He is a private citizen after that moment, and private citizens cannot be impeached.

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Spin Zone / Re: Remember Citizens United?
« on: January 12, 2021, 05:16:59 PM »
Quote from: Jim Logajan on January 12, 2021, 04:07:09 PM
The definition of monopoly differs from that of utility. I believe anti-trust action against big tech has been under consideration for a couple years in the US and EU.

I for one do not want the government calling the shots. They aren’t exactly filled with saints looking out for my interests.

Somehow I’ve managed to get by without ever having Facebook or Twitter accounts. Google is no longer my primary search engine. I’ve recently shut down my Linked-in account (only had it because a colleague invited me years ago - it never yielded any professional advantage.) I’m closing my Youtube account in a week. I may view the occasional video there simply because they’ve accrued a lot of material, but I’ll keep my Vimeo account for now. At some point I’ll close my Google account - I hardly ever used it except to log into Youtube.

So long as big tech acted in my interests I was willing to use them. There appears to be no shortage of alternatives, though, so if others feel they have no choices I’d like to know the specifics. Otherwise I see no monopolies.
Quote from: Jim Logajan on January 12, 2021, 11:44:24 AM
Nonsense. You think pilotspin.com should be treated as a utility? Or are only the ventures that offer what people want and succeed and become large should be treated as utilities? Doesn’t that make success (in terms of users) the defining characteristic of “utility”?
Remember renting a phone that hangs on the kitchen wall?  Buying a phone didn’t exist. If you didn’t want to make calls on Ma Bell, you could always walk to someone’s house and talk. But if you wanted to use their wires, you had to pay up, like it or not.

Social media has become the Ma Bell of our age. They are shutting out the competition by being the sole owner of the “lines” while colluding between themselves to shut out and shut down competition.  And in doing so, they are shutting down a means of communication just as Ma Bell could do, but didn’t.

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Spin Zone / Re: did I miss the definition of "assault weapon"?
« on: January 12, 2021, 11:21:43 AM »
Quote from: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 12, 2021, 07:19:15 AM
I use the service rifle for, well, service rifle matches (CMP/NRA).  They include "rapid" fire strings with a mandatory mag change

two point to those that know why the shooters with civilian versions of the M16 load 2 and 8.

And since I answered your question, could you explain why there is any value in screwing the 100,000,000+ gun owners because of the few people that use guns illegally?   And please don't try to justify something because of any good intention - look at the actual impact.
Pump the breaks Bob. He’s one of us wrt guns and is a former US Marshall.

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Spin Zone / Re: Federal Housing for Congress
« on: January 12, 2021, 10:51:44 AM »
Quote from: nudnik on January 12, 2021, 04:15:39 AM
With you on the housing.

On the representation - sure. But then make it so that there are NO formal residents in DC, let everybody there always be from another state and can vote in their original state's elections. Last state they or their parents lived in before DC. And have no state be allowed to deny voting of DC temporary residents. We shouldn't have partial citizens, whether it be 2/3rds or otherwise.
People who live in DC do so knowing that since 1790 it was designed to be our capital, and per the Constitution it has no representation in Congress. That doesn’t make them 2/3rds citizens.

The idiot people who move near airports and complain about the noise are similarly moronic.

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Spin Zone / Remember Citizens United?
« on: January 11, 2021, 02:42:00 PM »
Remember the leftists’ moral OUTRAGE from this SCOTUS decision that held that a corporation has First Amendment protections for political communications? 

Justice Stevens’ dissent centered around corruption, or even the APPEARANCE OF CORRUPTION in elections. He also argued that corporations could unfairly influence the electoral process with vast sums of money that few individuals can match.

Most ironically, his dissent ridiculed the majority’s fears that the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (remember the McCain-Feingold Act?) could be used to censor the media.

Good times. Good times.

Now the Democrats are ALL IN on corporations censoring people and groups with whom they disagree, and are more than willing to allow these corporations to be the sole arbiter of what May and may not be censored.

What dichotomy and stunning hypocrisy.

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Pilot Zone / Re: Bought a Navion
« on: January 11, 2021, 05:23:38 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on January 11, 2021, 03:32:19 AM
That bird looks in great shape.  Pics of the panel and interior a possibility?
Sure. The panel will be redone at some point. I want to fly it for a while while deciding what I want. Interior is very nice. Also has a baggage door, which was a factory option.


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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 10, 2021, 11:06:38 AM »
Quote from: Kristin on January 09, 2021, 03:24:18 PM
Marches by black people are treated much more harshly than the white crowd was on Wednesday.  That should be apparent to anyone who watched.
You may have been sleeping for 9 months, but cities like Minneapolis, Kenosha, Portland, Seattle, Washington DC and others burned for days in BLM and Antifa riots, COMPLETELY UNIMPEDED by law enforcement who stood by and watched it happen, at the stand-down orders of mayors and.or governors.   

You would be more credible if you didn’t lie, and weren’t so hyperbolic.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 10, 2021, 10:59:58 AM »
Quote from: Kristin on January 09, 2021, 03:15:10 PM
More like Al Baghdadi who radicalizes the masses by convincing them that their world is slipping away from them and then giving them a group to blame.  Trump has fed them lies and then encouraged them to march on the capital and to be strong to win.  This is right out of the ISIS playbook and it works beautifully.  I used to think that what happened in Germany under Hitler couldn't happen here.  I was wrong.  I used to think we were better than Islamist radicals because out people were more patriotic and had a much better standard of living.  Again, I was wrong.
Oh my God. The hyperbolic panty wetting by every democrat is fucking disgusting. This is not Hollywood, yet every democrat I know is creating a verbal fiction to soothe their nerves and with the hopes that a studio will pick their story.

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Pilot Zone / Re: Bought a Navion
« on: January 10, 2021, 10:42:42 AM »
I became a caretaker for a 71-year old yesterday.


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Spin Zone / Re: This might not be over
« on: January 08, 2021, 05:51:54 PM »
Quote from: PropWash on January 08, 2021, 05:06:51 PM
No therapy needed here sweetheart.  Liberalism is a disgusting repulsive disease, and anyone who thinks the liberal agenda has anything to do with American values and principles is fucking clueless.  I wish more people would take the time to inform themselves.
You fit right in here sir. Cheers! 

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Spin Zone / Re: How Long Before The Economic Collapse
« on: January 08, 2021, 05:10:56 PM »
Quote from: nudnik on January 07, 2021, 01:35:13 PM
You think the left is going to want to ban guns with 74 million Trumpers out there who just showed what they're willing to do? Hah.
You mean these pissed off Trumpers who stayed inside the velvet ropes of Statuary Hall?



Yea, I think the democrats think we will be compliant little monkeys and will move forward with great haste with their gun control agenda.

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