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Spin Zone / Re: The Real Reason for Impeachment
« on: December 10, 2019, 11:48:46 AM »
He will be under a constant impeachment inquiry as long as the dims hold the majority.
Any better incentive to take back the House? 

The well being of the country depends on it. The democrats have proven they are incapable of leadership.

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Spin Zone / Trump Ukraine Impeachment Report
« on: December 10, 2019, 09:12:27 AM »
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/12/10/doug-collins-suggests-that-dems-want-one-of-their-articles-to-fail-n2557745
I have an alternative position. I haven’t heard anyone say this, so it’s just my opinion.

It’s possible (not likely but possible) that the wimpy two charges on the Articles of Fiction are intentional for two reasons:

1). The democrats know if they got into more specific Ukraine and Russia matters, many, many democrat (and even Republican) swamp dwellers will be exposed for their treachery and even treason when the White House mounts its own defense. That is too frightening to even imagine for them.

2). The democrats aren’t stupid, and see the winds of impeachment are not with them. They see the possibility of an election landslide on 3 November 2020, and Pelosi suffering a crushing defeat.

For these two reasons, I suspect the charges are intentionally wimpy so House democrats in Trump districts can vote against it, even if they means that the vote fails. It won’t get further investigated in the a Senate, they can (in their minds) ignore an electoral slaughter in November, and possibly retain the House. The thought of losing the House is probably worse than having the impeachment fail.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump Ukraine Impeachment Report
« on: December 10, 2019, 08:55:26 AM »
Two articles: abuse of power and obstruction of congress.  No mention of treason, bribery, or anything else.

Abuse of power isn't a crime.

Going to the courts to see if House demands are lawful isn't a crime.

They have nothing.  The sheep are tired of the circus.  House flips to Republican and Trump reelected in a landslide.  Thanks Nancy!
Every president has fought against congressional subpoenas. Every single one.

So every president should have been impeached?

Let’s just prepare proforma articles of impeachment to be invoked on January 20 every four years.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Horowitz IG Report
« on: December 10, 2019, 08:34:00 AM »
For a true dedicated leftist, it takes a total sea change, a sudden epiphany like Paul on the road to Damascus, or like when a cult member is deprogrammed, or when any religious person has an experience causing him to question his core beliefs. I don’t think that happens very often.

But what is happening I think is people who have been Democrat or liberal without thought, just because their family always was, or because they assumed it was the way they should be because of school and their community, if they aren’t rigid in their thinking and they are open to new information, they probably account for the change in polling. This would especially apply to rust belt states that were Democrat historically because of unions and support for the working man. You’d have to be blind and dead to not see that now, it’s Trump, not the Democrats, on their side. Same for blacks when they realize the Democrats put illegal aliens above them.
Shock therapy might work on the democrats, but I’m not sure there’s enough electricity on the grid to pull that off.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Real Reason for Impeachment
« on: December 09, 2019, 06:56:24 PM »
He withheld half a billion worth of badly needed defense spending, told the Ukrainian President that if he played ball all sort of money would be coming his way.  Several witnesses said they were told by him or his people the money stall was so the Ukrainian President would announce an investigation into Hunter and Joe Biden.  Trump did release the funds, just hours after the whistleblower story surfaced.

In short, he misused the powers of his office for personal political gain, imperiling National Security in the process.  If you'll recall, Ukraine has an active war on its border that's killed over ten thousand souls.

And the only reason there isn't more evidence is he's obstructed the probe by shielding his people under the aegis of Executive privilege, which is a misuse of it if ever there was one.  But you guys needn't worry.  Your golden boy will be acquitted by his toadies in the Senate.  You can look forward to him doing more of this kind of thing in the  future.
Since lucifer asked most of my questions, my question for you is exactly why do you think the Executive Branch needs to bow to the demands of the legislative branch? 

Surely you’ve read Articles I and II of the Constitution, and should know that any powers one branch has over the other are very limited and delineated.

Looking forward to your citation of the right of Congress to oversee the executive branch. By the way, the right to impeach is a power not a right to unlimited investigation.

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Spin Zone / The Real Reason for Impeachment
« on: December 09, 2019, 11:59:17 AM »
He provided text from the fucking phone call, and there have been a parade of witnesses, several of whom listed to the damn thing.
I read the text of the fucking phone call, and it says no such fucking thing that could possibly be interpreted as a high crime or misdemeanor. Similarly, the witnesses that were on the call admitted UNDER OATH that they had no direct evidence of a high crime or misdemeanor, but that it was their presumption or assumption or hearsay that caused them to leap to that conclusion.

So, you’ve got nothing. Just like Schiff.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Real Reason for Impeachment
« on: December 09, 2019, 11:30:17 AM »
Trump tries to coerce a foreign head of state to damage his political rival and you guys don't care.  The most ironic thing is this is exactly what he was accused of doing with Russia, so instead of avoiding it he goes and does it again!  Sadly, when the Senate gives him a pass you can expect to see more of this sort of thing.
He did?  Do you have a transcript of that call or some evidence that we can see? 

Thanks in advance.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump Ukraine Impeachment Report
« on: December 08, 2019, 08:50:48 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Sometimes I suddenly see the obvious.
« on: December 07, 2019, 01:03:15 PM »
And I remember when your daughter was considering vet school.
Time flies.
Doesn’t it?  She’s now 4 1/2 years into the profession. She’s a dairy veterinarian, but also does small animal surgery one day a week. Rugged life going on farm calls, especially in the dead of winter, but she loves it.

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Spin Zone / Re: Sometimes I suddenly see the obvious.
« on: December 07, 2019, 08:32:13 AM »
I have often wondered why many of us conservatives keep quiet about or political beliefs while amongst a bunch of liberal that have no such filter.

I have ususally thought that conservatives actually respect their fellow human beings and don't want to say things that they know will hurt them.  I suspect even Number 7 doesn't tell liberals how he feels, face to face.

But there is another reason that I have always know applies to me, but it suddenly dawned on me that it may apply to a lot of other people too.
There are a lot of small and medium business owners.  I owned a small business (around 20 employees) and we worked hard to find and keep loyal customers.  I knew many of my customers were liberals, but that never effected my business relationship with them.

But in 2015, a woman business owner and friend of my in-laws attended a Trump Rally and managed to get her picture in the paper.  My MIL was outraged and vowed never to do business with her again.  In fact, she loudly told everyone she knew not to go to her store.  My MIL is quite influential in this town.
 Two years later, the woman was out of business.  She said that after that rally, her business dropped off precipitously and she started getting hate mail and bad on-line reviews about her political  affiliation.

I was recently at a Rotary meeting (mostly business owners, but now they let anybody in).  When the topic turned to Trump, it was obvious that the business owners started getting nervous and looking to see who was listening.  They changed the subject.  Not because they were embarrassed but because they were intimidated.

I just finally wanted to get that off my chest.
I think the issue is a little bit of both (respect for others’ opinions as well as fear of backlash in business/personal matters.)

In the first case, I don’t generally engage in political discussions unless it is provoked or invited. I have lib friends, and they know they Im conservative, and we usually just don’t go there. I don’t think that’s dishonest. I do think it’s a matter of mutual respect for the person, even if I don’t respect their issues.

I will engage when I am vilified either personally or as a member of a group (I.e. when someone I know says anyone who supports Trump is a closet racist, or something similarly offensive.). I am tired of getting pushed around and caricatured.

As for business, I am a CPA in a large firm. Left or Right, very few of us show our cards in the business environment, unless we know where our clients reside. For example, I’ve had two clients host Wisconsin Governor walker to their plants to highlight successes in Wisconsin manufacturing growth, for example.

I remember your discussions on your business back in the POA days.

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Spin Zone / Re: Wait. What? Was this Andrew Yang or Mayor Pete?
« on: December 06, 2019, 01:11:07 PM »
I agree with your daughter to an extent.  The regulations have become beyond ridiculous.  I talked to a local creamery who sells homemade ice cream.  It used to be a dairy farm and they still have cows for SHOW ONLY.  They have to buy their cream from somewhere else indicating the regulations are so onerous that it wouldn't be profitable to use their own milk!  I forget the details as it was some time ago that I talked to them, but I remember just shaking my head in disbelief.
Trust me, my daughter is conservative and against stupid regulations. However, she is integrally involved in the food safety aspects of food production, and knows how outbreaks occur.

One of her favorite movies is Outbreak. Yes, these vets are all a little sick! 

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Spin Zone / Re: Wait. What? Was this Andrew Yang or Mayor Pete?
« on: December 06, 2019, 12:18:28 PM »
I did too. I met the local farmers literally in the back parking lot and paid cash like it was a drug deal. Part of the problem is regulation, raw milk being illegal for example. Demand would have to grow a lot more for it to gain the kind of organization and structure that would support it, and we aren’t there yet.
Honestly, my daughter is a dairy veterinarian, and she sees milk production literally from the second it leaves the cow. She is very against raw milk, because of the very significant dangers of salmonella, E. coli, listeria, and even viruses.

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Spin Zone / Re: Wait. What? Was this Andrew Yang or Mayor Pete?
« on: December 06, 2019, 12:04:11 PM »
What’s to say? Juvenile humor, and very inappropriate. But then, Trump said “pussy” so there’s that.
I don’t know anything about the back story, but for a presidential candidate to think that this is a good thing on camera shows either their utter stupidity, or utter contempt for most normal voters.

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Spin Zone / Re: Iowa Democrat Just Edited an Ad
« on: December 06, 2019, 12:02:15 PM »
Iowa Democrat Just Edited an Ad to Make it Look Like Joni Ernst Is Shooting Him


Lame.  And sick.

https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1202640057154330624
Apparently Pajama Boy’s dad is running for Congress in Iowa. Who knew?

I’m curious if women really like the feminization of men.  It seems to be happening more and more.

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Spin Zone / Re: Wait. What? Was this Andrew Yang or Mayor Pete?
« on: December 06, 2019, 11:59:12 AM »
Fascinating discussion about AI and democrats, but no comment about the video? 

It’s funny his handler starts to pull him away when he knows it’s going to go viral and look very bad. 

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