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Spin Zone / Re: Melissa v Springsteen
« on: April 10, 2016, 05:42:06 PM »
Springsteen refused to play a concert in North Carolina because he disagreed with a new women's safety law requiring people to use the bathroom of their biological gender.  This was in response to a Charlotte city ordinance which was written equally poorly and opened the door for men to legally use a women's restroom.

Why is it "OK" for Springsteen to refuse service because he disagreed with his customer's beliefs but not OK for Sweet Cakes by Melissa to refuse to make a cake for a homosexual wedding because they disagreed with their customer's beliefs?

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Spin Zone / Re: 4 way race?
« on: April 10, 2016, 12:45:03 PM »
No.  It's not going to be a four way race.

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Spin Zone / Melissa v Springsteen
« on: April 10, 2016, 12:43:16 PM »
A question -

Person A and Person B are to do business.  Person A is ready to do it but Person B doesn't like some characteristic about Person A.  Which of the following is correct?

1) Person B should cancel his show, refuse to service his customers and just stay home and be hailed as a liberal hero?
2) Person B should decline to bake the cake, be vilified as a demon and have their business and reputation ruined?

When is it OK for Person B to say "No, I reject servicing my customers" and when is it not OK?  Both Sweet Cakes by Melissa (Oregon baker) and Bruce Springsteen said "I don't like something about my customer(s) so I'm not servicing them".  Why is one right and one wrong?  All we're asking for is some consistency. 

Set laws aside...I'm not talking about law.  I need a Leftie to explain to me why one is right and one is wrong.  The last remaining leftie at the Pigpen couldn't do it.


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Spin Zone / Re: New Forum Software?
« on: April 09, 2016, 06:54:06 PM »
phpbb3.  It's free, it's easy.

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Spin Zone / Re: Mark Levin says it very well
« on: April 08, 2016, 05:49:35 PM »
Quote from: YouOnlyLiveTwice on April 08, 2016, 02:01:57 PM
So you vote for Hillary by default.

Purists like you gave us two terms of Obama.

So you count every non vote for Trump as a vote for Hillary.  You're saying that Trump is the natural loser. 




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Spin Zone / Re: Mark Levin says it very well
« on: April 08, 2016, 12:46:17 PM »
I cannot vote for Trump.  That doesn't mean I will vote for Hillary but my conscience will not allow me to vote for him.


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Spin Zone / Re: Uncle Karl knows what's best for you.
« on: April 07, 2016, 12:39:20 PM »
Quote from: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 11:07:15 AM
Karl Rove is the establishment of the establishment.  We are totally screwed.

Rove is the Establishment of the past.  This is 2012 coming back to haunt him.

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Spin Zone / Re: Wisconsin Gave GOP Escape Route from Trump
« on: April 07, 2016, 12:36:45 PM »
Quote from: Lucifer on April 07, 2016, 11:50:22 AM
His base is far right ideologues and religious zealots

Actually his base is more middle of the road liberals (with a lower case L) / non-Libertarian Party libertarians.  I'm a slightly right of center moderate and between the two I am firmly in favor of Cruz.  When I say say slightly right, I mean by a point or two and sometimes I land left of center depending on the day and my mood.  Noodle that - your girl doesn't have the middle.

The only thing I can think of that might get me to vote for the she-witch would be Trump running against her.

You are wishing with your wisher.  You'll get a lot further by thinking with your thinker.  Good advice for flying too.

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Spin Zone / Re: Wisconsin Gave GOP Escape Route from Trump
« on: April 07, 2016, 12:32:18 PM »
Quote from: Lucifer on April 07, 2016, 11:34:16 AM
If Cruz is the nominee Hillary is a sure bet. 

The only way I think you could believe what you say is either that you know it's a lie but you don't care OR you just aren't informed / letting your personal judgement get in the way of seeing the truth.  The Cruz / Hillary race is a tight one, pretty consistently withing a couple of points.  But the real race hasn't even started yet.  There is a lot of time before November and a lot of stuff that is going to happen between now and then.  For example, if the Justice Dept is forced to indict Hillary then she takes an even bigger tumble than she already has and Cruz probably goes ahead.  There are debates to have and questions to be answered about a lot of things. 

Cruz / Hillary is nothing like a sure bet.

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Spin Zone / Re: Is this a revelation to anyone?
« on: April 06, 2016, 05:21:20 PM »
Taxes are a major expense and my largest by far.  Even with a mortgage and other deductions, between federal, state and sales taxes I pay at least 25% of my income to taxes.  Nothing else comes close, not even my mortgage or my son's ACL surgery. 

For what I pay in taxes I could probably make payments on and fly a very nice 182.

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Spin Zone / Re: Sanders Plans To Win Nomination at Convention
« on: April 06, 2016, 12:13:06 PM »
Quote from: Little Joe on April 06, 2016, 10:31:11 AM
But I do think the GOP and others are using him (and you) to keep Trump from getting the nomination and sending it to a brokered convention. 

It's a primary.  Just because Trump is ahead by 230 delegates does not mean that he has won and everyone else should drop out.  And if he eventually loses, it doesn't mean others stole it, it means he got beat.  Of COURSE Senator Cruz is trying to keep Mr. Trump from winning, that is what he SHOULD be doing.  I'm personally very pleased that Trump seems to be helping him so well. 

If he can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.  Judging from his behavior over the last week and especially last night, he can't handle the campaign.  Is this how he will handle the job?

Last thought - if Cruz and Kasich would both put on their big boy pants and announce a Cruz / Kasich ticket today, it would be nearly a tie in the delegate count and they would have a very positive message to send about how they approach inclusion in their campaign.


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Spin Zone / Re: How do you FEEL about Foreign Nationals in OUR Military
« on: April 06, 2016, 11:55:46 AM »
Hey, it worked for Rome.  By the time their civilization was falling apart there were a ton of foreigners in their armies.  Didn't do them any harm...

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Spin Zone / Re: What Will the Downfall of the US Look Like?
« on: March 04, 2016, 10:45:28 PM »
The fall of the United States comes about because of a failure of the law, it is a moral failure.  The country is a Republic, a country ruled by law.  When everyone quits caring about the legal part in favor of what is good for them personally, then the law is gone and the Republic is gone.  We are nearly there.

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Spin Zone / Re: How Can We Fix Our Nation's Financial Ills?
« on: March 04, 2016, 10:41:53 PM »
Quote from: EppyGA on January 06, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
Let's add to the question.  Assuming we did some or all of the things suggested here, do you think it is actually possible to dig out of the debt hole we are now in?  Do you hold any hope that we will ever head in a direction that will get us there or are we just screwed?

Is it possible?  Absolutely.  Retiring debt is simply a matter of spending less and paying off the debt more.

Do I hold any hope that we will ever head in that direction?  No, not really.  The #1 issue that got us in this mess is giving money away without regards to our ability to do so, the mandated spending.  And the #1 area where this is a problem is social welfare programs.  If we did not just give away money under the guise of compassion to individuals whose only claim on the money is not having "enough" then not only would we be able to pay off the debt in a very short time, we would not even have to cut any other spending to do it. 

The reason I don't hold out hope is because mandated spending is encoded in law, which means it requires a concerted effort to change and I don't believe we will ever get the number of people into Congress to change the laws.  America is therefore doomed to spend without regards to ability and without regards to it being good or bad for the country.  We could be bankrupt and the law would demand that we continue to spend.  We could be taxing everyone at 100% and the law would still demand that we spend the money.


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Spin Zone / Re: Try reading this without laughing, or crying, or both
« on: March 03, 2016, 08:56:18 PM »
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“So many of us shared in our pain. I felt I was in danger, and I felt so many people in that room were in danger,” proclaimed Marcus Robinson, student and president of the Pittsburgh Rainbow Alliance.

Danger of what?  What did he believe he was in danger of?  Has he gone so far down the path of dehumanizing those he hates that he no longer believes them to be capable of normal human behavior?  What indication did he get that there was any danger?

I don't want to hear about hurt feelings.  If there was a legitimate dangerous situation, I want to know.  But an accusation of feeling unsafe is about Marcus, not about any reality.  If the rest of the world has to go out of their way to make Marcus feel safe, then doesn't Marcus have to go out of HIS way to make the world feel safe around him?  Because I certainly don't, I feel like if I speak around him, I'd be excoriated for "hateful" speech, like saying that all men are created equal and how individual freedom requires respecting those you don't like too.

Have at it buttercup....

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