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Spin Zone / Re: Slow growth
« on: April 28, 2016, 07:17:02 AM »
just imagine how bad the growth would have been had the Federal government had not made all those investments over the past 7 years.

I shudder to think.


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Spin Zone / Re: Is the 14th Amendment a threat to the Bill of Rights?
« on: April 28, 2016, 04:00:07 AM »
The issue here is whether a state law against discrimination is, or is not, trumped by the First Amendment protection of freedom of religion.  The issue is not about someone using the 14th Amendment to elevate a personal beef or a local law to constitutional status.  In fact, without the 14th Amendment, Missy Sweet Cakes wouldn't have even had an argument that she and hubby were not guilty.  In this case, they were the proponents of the 14th Amendment as that is the only vehicle to apply the First Amendment to the State of Oregon.

The bigger issues is whether a religious belief can trump a secular law such as an anti-discrimination law.  Arguing that religious beliefs trump is a losing argument.  It has to be that way.  If the religious trumps and Christians can discriminate against gays, the Muslims can commit honor killings and sell their 13 year old daughters to the highest bidder.  As soon as we start setting the laws based on beliefs, there is no freedom of religion as there will be one dominant religion now setting the laws.

The issue is whether you can force someone to violate their religious beliefs.

Why do you think it's just fine and dandy to force a Christian organization to hire gays or any other unrepentent sinner?


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Spin Zone / Re: Words have Meaning
« on: April 27, 2016, 12:51:54 PM »
Just came across something that says PHILOSOPHY means the Love of Wisdom.  Saying that Philo means love.  How can this be a true definition, when sophistry is the art of deception?

blame the Greeks.


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Spin Zone / Re: Why Won't Mr. "Will of the People" Debate?
« on: April 27, 2016, 09:11:47 AM »
He will debate Hillary because he will need to debate Hillary. 

He doesn't need to debate Cruz.

And Hillary has yet to debate anyone that will actually stand up to her, or face moderators that will ask her the tough questions.  That all changes in the general election debate.  I predict that Trump will crush Hillary in a debate.

hillary doesn't have the courage to face Trump or anyone else in an actual debate.

and the media trash won't call her on it.


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Spin Zone / Re: A Different Approach
« on: April 27, 2016, 09:10:10 AM »
No. But I am fighting against an inappropriate simplification of sex and gender, which is why I entered the conversation with Bob.

There are the normal XY people, the normal XX people, and the very few genetically defective people.

It really is that simple.

Those that want to claim than an XY can actually be a woman in a man's body are on drugs.


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Or maybe the sheep are beginning to become fed up. If so, then people and municipalities, school districts, counties and states will start to ignore orders from DC and when the federal branch becomes insane with anger and jealousy things might start to turn back towards what is right.
I'm counting on a lot of folks finding their testicles in time to stop the complete annihilation of freedom.


Consider anecdotes like the behavior of people during hurricanes (don't evacuate, and then bleat (or demand) help.  Or the woman who sat in her car for more than 3 hours waiting for some free water when a watermain broke in Massachusetts.  Consider the people who want the illusion of security (e.g., TSA, and the various gun confiscation schemes) and the idiot judges that allow them.

I think you have more faith in people than I do... maybe it's because I live in taxachusetts surrounded by morons who will vote for hillary or whatever slug the DNC puts on the ballot.


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Spin Zone / Re: Black Churches Taught us to Forgive White People
« on: April 27, 2016, 05:54:03 AM »
I am taken aback by your eloquence, as much as I am by the substantively devoid personal attack good fellow.

personal attack?

Calling you out on your racism is not an attack, but a statement of fact.

Calling you out on your misunderstanding is not an attack, but a statement of fact.

Now, if I had called you an ignorant moron because you don't understand "hypocrisy", well, that would have been a personal attack of sorts. 

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Spin Zone / Re: The Spark of Life......
« on: April 27, 2016, 05:50:09 AM »

Good luck with that. As I said, no point in wasting time debating Evolutionary Theory with those "debating" with theological blinders firmly in place.


not directed at you, but it also a gross waste of time to argue with someone that can't fathom how science and theology are not mutually exclusive.  Particularly true with people who hate all things religious.


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Spin Zone / Re: Black Churches Taught us to Forgive White People
« on: April 26, 2016, 10:48:51 PM »
I believe that forgiveness is a noble ideal. But I believe that our forgiveness is not genuine for the benefit of both but rather the detriment of both, for it is rooted in powerlessness and fear.

White America does not forgive nor forget. Look at how she handles entire nations of people- Unforgiveness from what is advertised as a Christian nation; hypocrisy.

good grief.

you are wrong wrong wrong wrong.

I'm stunned by your misunderstanding of "forgiveness" and your racism.


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Spin Zone / Re: A Different Approach
« on: April 26, 2016, 03:57:41 PM »
Yes. Next question.

apparently you don't consider a "male" without a Y chromsome to be a defect.


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Spin Zone / Re: Black Churches Taught us to Forgive White People
« on: April 26, 2016, 03:23:14 PM »
It completely changes the point of the article.

Here's the digest: this learned forgiveness is and has been unhealthy for blacks. Additionally, the forgiveness has only worked one way and one way only.

Here's a question:  do you believe that is true?

"that" being the unhealthy for blacks and the forgiveness being one way.




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Spin Zone / Re: A Different Approach
« on: April 26, 2016, 03:21:10 PM »
No, not an expert. But it's factually not the case that all males have a Y chromosome. Additional reading makes it clear that it is not as simple as you seem to suggest. And this is without getting into the sex vs. gender debate.

do you understand the concept of genetic defect?  and birth defect?


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Spin Zone / Re: A Different Approach
« on: April 26, 2016, 01:46:13 PM »
Because I have done some reading on it.

oh, well, that makes you an expert.


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Spin Zone / Re: A Different Approach
« on: April 26, 2016, 09:09:14 AM »
Probably because the science is not that simple.

and you think that because?


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Spin Zone / Re: Trey Gowdy For President
« on: April 26, 2016, 08:45:15 AM »
Yep. Very few people give a damn about Benghazi. The White House and the Democrats won this one.

as well as:

the whitewash papers
lying about being under sniper fire
being a doormat
the buying/selling of influence (why are those speaking "fees" even legal?)
illegal handling of classified materials

and

no actual accomplishments

and

lying about just about anything, but notably lying about guns used in the commision of crimes in New York, and anything she says in "support" of "gun control"



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