The only difference is the GOP folks are more slick about it and don't get caught quite so readily.

I'll never understand why you guys bitch so.  The GOP has control of nearly every state legislature in the US, not to mention lots of governorships.

All that in Obama's seven years.  Do you the no it means something Michael?  FWIW, I don't believe your far left.

Bernie is not likely to run as an Independent since he just joined the Democrats this year.

So the guys Dad says he was a devout Muslim, yet the FBI has not yet declared it a terrorist attack.  Any bet it will be called workplace violence?

We are well beyond the tipping point.  Number of folks in the workforce at an all-time low, food stamp recipients at an all time high, welfare reform totally gutted, many jobs taken down to 29 hours to be part time. None of that is likely to change.  The part that really has us over the edge though is the debt, now approaching $20T with no hope of it ever shrinking. Who was the last politician you ever heard say we're going to wok on paying down the debt?  You're lucky to get one to even talk about a balanced budget.  As the ACA continues to tank and requires more money from the government to keep it afloat, things can only get worse.  To even begin making a dent on the debt you would have to cut discretionary spending in half or raise taxes to increase revenue beyond expenditures and that will only produce more spending since we know politicians will trip over themselves to spend any excess money.  It's not going to be pretty.

Adams has been there quite awhile.  They haven't caged him yet.

Quote from: Anthony on November 18, 2015, 06:42:11 AM

Quote from: nddons on November 17, 2015, 08:42:35 PM

I don't know, John.  The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and thus the GOP Establishment, are all supportive of "Immigration Reform" a/k/a amnesty.

This is a big issued dividing the Republican Party.  The establishment wants illegal immigration for cheap labor, and also wants to continue the big government, deficit spending almost in lock step with the Democrats.  They talk a good game, but in the end support the status quo.  The conservative group of Republicans want to blow it up, and actually be conservative.  This includes fiscal responsibility, and closed borders.  We'll see who wins.

I'll bet you a coke it will be the establishment and we'll continue on this carousal until our collapse.

In simple terms, we're fucked. 

Meanwhile the "D: candidates tripped all over each other last night telling us how we should absolutely take some 60k refugees into our country, only after they are thoroughly vetted.  Just where does one go to thoroughly vet potential terrorists?

Kasich looked like a bully and just decided he was going to try and get the most time no matter what.  His comment on immigrants being good law abiding citizens was a bit over the top considering that most likely their first move here was to break the law in getting here.