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Spin Zone / Re: Manafort Sentencing Memo
« on: December 06, 2018, 09:58:20 AM »
Of course the Donald's bromance with MBS is really weird.  Dude orchestrated the murder of an American and not a peep.  Can't say I know what's up with that.

 Khashoggi was not a US citizen.  He was not an American.  Please get your facts straight.

 Furthermore, Khashoggi had dubious ties to the Muslim Brotherhood as well as Al Qaeda.

 This act took place in a foreign country (Turkey) in a foreign embassy (KSA).  The US is not the world's police force, so under what conditions or rights does any law enforcement arm of the US have in investigating this crime?

 Odd that all of the sudden you worry about a foreigner that pisses off a foreign government getting whacked, but when BHO was targeting actual American Citizens to murder them, without due process, you were perfectly OK with it.

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Spin Zone / Re: Fixing the 2nd amendment
« on: December 06, 2018, 09:03:32 AM »
K, so my beloved and adored liberal family member insists she has never seen nor heard anything on mainstream media (on which she relies) to indicate the Democrats want to take away all guns, now or ever. I am wrong! I am brainwashed!

My window of opportunity with her is about 6.8 seconds. How do I get all the evidence into a space that small?

 You don't.

 The narrative is "we don't want to take away guns, we just want "common sense" gun control."

 You would have an easier time teaching your cat to use the toilet and flushing it. 

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Yeah, the guy is supposed to fly coach.  Whatever.

 Wouldn't flying on a 200 seat passenger airliner contribute a smaller carbon foot print than one person being flown on a G5?

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Spin Zone / Re: Manafort Sentencing Memo
« on: December 05, 2018, 07:16:18 AM »
I think they're worried about before and during the election.  If they negotiated a lifting of sanctions for election assistance, for example, it would be illegal as heck.  Not saying they did, only if they did.

While there may be no fire, the Donald's bromance with Putin does put out some smoke.






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Spin Zone / Re: Ocasio Cortez
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:31:57 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Your divorce is Trump’s fault!
« on: November 30, 2018, 06:08:37 PM »

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Spin Zone / Ice Fishing and Immigration
« on: November 30, 2018, 01:19:42 PM »
The President and the head of the Democrat Party, Nancy Pelosi, are arguing extensively over allowing immigrants into our country.

Nancy, of course, wants free access to everyone who wants to come in, while Donald wants us to secure our borders and ensure only the right people come in.

Instead of going to a costly, time-consuming nationwide vote on the matter, they agree to a 3-day ice fishing contest to settle the issue whoever catches the most fish at the end of the 3 days will have his or her process implemented.

The two decide that a remote frozen lake in northern Wisconsin would be the ideal place. No observers on the fishing grounds, but both would need to have their catches verified and counted each night at 5 PM so they use a neutral park ranger station.

After Day 1, Trump returns to the station with a total of 10 fish, while Pelosi comes back with nothing.

Day 2 finishes and Trump catches another 20 fish, but Pelosi once again comes back with nothing.

That night, Pelosi and her liberal cronies get together and accuse Trump of being a “low-life, cheating piece of scum.”

Instead of fishing on Day 3, they are going to follow Trump and to spy on him and figure out how he is cheating.

Day 3 finishes up and Trump has had an incredible day, adding 40 more to his total.

That night, Pelosi and her democratic cohorts get together for the full report on how Donald was cheating.

Pelosi stands up to give her report and says, “You are not going to believe this. Trump is cheating because he’s cutting holes in the ice.”

And this, my friends, tells you the difference between a businessman and a career government politician

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Spin Zone / Re: First picture of water on mars
« on: November 30, 2018, 01:16:08 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Your divorce is Trump’s fault!
« on: November 29, 2018, 04:47:30 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Your divorce is Trump’s fault!
« on: November 29, 2018, 04:37:14 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: The island you can't visit
« on: November 27, 2018, 08:38:31 AM »
Ever see the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy"?

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Spin Zone / Re: ERA ratification?
« on: November 27, 2018, 08:10:21 AM »
I dunno.....

   Wouldn't it be advantageous to send women into combat on their period?  I mean, a female with PMS up against some ruthless special ops fighters......they wouldn't stand a chance.

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Spin Zone / First picture of water on mars
« on: November 26, 2018, 10:37:01 AM »

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Spin Zone / Rush Limbaugh: Thank God for Donald Trump…
« on: November 21, 2018, 03:56:58 PM »
Found this from Rush Limbaugh to be enlightening.

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RUSH: Well, this is funny. The media is outraged again by President Trump — who may be the greatest president of our lifetimes, with one or two exceptions. Trump’s out there saying he can’t imagine anybody, anybody but himself being TIME magazine’s Man of the Year. He just can’t see it. There’s not anybody even close. Of course, the media says, “How dare he speak this way? This is just so unseemly! This is not how polite society refers to themselves. It’s not done this way.”

RUSH: Trump’s out there telling the media that an “Obama judge” struck down his new asylum executive order, and this must have really ticked off the chief justice of the United States, John Roberts. (laughing) John Roberts issued a statement (summarized), “We don’t have Obama judges, and we don’t have Bush judges, and we don’t have Clinton judges, and we don’t have Bush judges, and we don’t have Clinton judges, and we don’t have Obama…” (laughing) We sure as hell do!

What the hell is the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals? That’s where they all go! That’s why we know we have Obama judges. Obama has appointed left-wing hacks to act as judges. But… (laughing) Trump’s also saying he’s through submitting questions to the witch hunt. (laughing) Not the Mueller investigation, do you know whether the witch hunt. The Drive-Bys are beside themselves! It is funny to watch this.

Also, the media cannot handle the fact that Trump is not gonna somehow punish the Saudis for supposedly killing the so-called Washington Post journalist, Jamal Khashoggi. What Trump is saying is imminently sensible. (summarized) “Look, there are much bigger things that this, and the relationship between the United States and Saudi Arabia is far more important, and I’m not gonna tank it because a bunch of you people think that a legitimate journalist got murdered.

“This guy was a legitimate enemy of the Saudi regime, and he was disguised as a journalist and columnist at the Washington Post. And I’m not gonna ruin the United States’ relationship with the Saudis just because you are demanding it.” Of course, now a bunch of Republican officials are criticizing Trump. This stuff just never ends. You know the great thing? It never seems to get Trump down. He doubles down on this stuff still.

He revs up and he rams it back down their throat every time. Like CNN is beside itself all day long with the idea that Trump is calling Mueller’s investigation a witch hunt and that Trump now thinks there’s nobody but him who could possibly be TIME magazine’s Man of the Year, and that Trump will not condemn Mohammed bin Salman (the crown prince of Saudi Arabia) for the supposed murder of Khashoggi. Trump won’t even listen to the tape.

There’s a tape supposedly of the last moments of the murder. “I don’t need to listen to it. Why should I want to listen to that?” He just… Do you realize how many people would have caved by now? Folks, do you realize how many people, years ago, would have totally caved to this never-ending assault? I mean, it is an oppressive assault that never stops on Trump personally! Now, he’s an alpha male, and if you’ve ever wondered what one is — because they’re exceedingly rare in America today.

Would you agree with me on this? Alpha males… If you want to know, alpha males are the problem as far as modern-day feminazis and their wuss male supporters happen to be. The alpha male is exactly the kind of male that the left thinks we need to exterminate, and you’re seeing one in action. Now, most people today care so much about what people think of them, and they care so much about what’s said about them, and they care so much about what’s written about them that they would have caved within two weeks.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/rush-limbaugh-thank-god-for-donald-trump-he-revs-up-and-rams-it-back-down-their-throat-every-time/

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Can you show us where the case providing precedent, and the precedent it relies upon, is not valid?

You can cite any case as "precedent".  Just because a case is cited as precedent doesn't stop the judicial process.  Many cases used as precedent have been overturned in later legal cases.

You seem to be under the impression that once a case has been presented as precedent, it's over and the judge must rule and follow based upon that case alone.  In many court cases lawyers will cite previous cases in order to strengthen their case, and many times they are resorting to "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance.....". 

 Again, in case you missed it, the judge in this CNN case didn't actually touch on the first and fifth, and only provided a brief relief.  Ask yourself, "why?"   The why is he new the case was shaky, and if it went to a higher court it more than likely would be overturned.   Judges don't like having their decisions overturned.  And they typically don't like flaky cases with big political exposure.

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