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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin
« on: February 10, 2024, 12:13:09 AM »
He engages in propaganda - anyone who has watched his shows realizes that. Just because propagandists dig for and present dirt, er, facts, doesn't make them unbiased and thus journalists. I may agree with the goals of some propagandist but they are still what they are.I never said I didn't like the interview taking place. I simply indicated that an ideal journalist would have also  tried to interview Zelensky. But Carlson will likely not because he long ago indicated who he considers the worse side even before the secondary invasion of Ukraine:
https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-asks-why-us-should-side-ukraine-over-russia-2022-1
Carlson has a specific opinion on Ukraine vs Russia and is acting to promote it. I consider it naive at best to label those actions as journalism in its most noble meaning.

So what was propaganda during the interview?  What did Carlson say or do that would constitute propaganda?

As far as your claim Carlson hasn't tried to interview Zelenskyy, how do you know this?   I believe it's the other way around, Zelenskyy would be ducking an interview attempt by Carlson.

Why?  Because Zelenskyy would be asked some tough questions by Carlson rather than the glowing softball crap the MSM does with him.   

 You don't want to accept that Zelenskyy is nothing more than a dictator, and you want the establishment version that he's somehow this saintly leader fighting for democracy.   You can't seem to accept on many levels Zelenskyy is on par with Putin.

  From what I'm gathering you are butthurt that Americans got a glimpse of the other side without editing and censorship.   You are echoing the exact same crap the leftist are crying about.   The more I read of your positions you seem quite happy to have censorship and a controlled narrative.

  As far as your definition of journalism, the medium has shifted since those definitions came around.  Instead of just print, we now have audio, video and other electronic means of journalism.

  But since you demand we stick to the strictest meaning of a word, do you consider yourself to be gay?   After all, for many many years if a person was gay that meant they were very happy.  You are gay aren't you?   ;)

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Leftists hate the idea of people being rewarded for hard work.

  Leftist want the government to provide........for free.

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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin
« on: February 09, 2024, 09:14:32 AM »
and, of course, we should believe all the gems flowing from Putin's mouth and his propaganda machine...

  No, but we should hear all sides so we can form opinions.   

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Spin Zone / Re: Question:
« on: February 08, 2024, 08:38:22 AM »
::) My pleasure.

It actually depends on when they became veterans as well as a number of individual factors which it would be difficult generally to judge in this sort of forum.

If they became veterans during a period of conscription, a nice word for government enforced slavery, I view them to some extent as victims of our government's immoral policy. This is even if they, as one of my uncles, "volunteered", because they are under an indirect threat.

More generally of course young males are evolved to be the warrior class. And as younger males they tend to minimize risk. In some circumstances in the modern world, this is a trait we still badly need. I think the government often takes advantage of this to entice them into the military service. Of course for many young males, such as a brother in law, this is actually an excellent career opportunity.

OTOH, when volunteering for military service one is swearing an oath to follow the orders of some other person, potentially in dangerous situations, and with our current interventionist foreign policy, often in morally questionable (at best), circumstances. I would not presently recommend it to anyone given the huge size of our military in any case.

Since it is difficult to know these sort of details for an individual in an online forum, I normally reserve judgement until I know more about the person.

  So back to the "paid killer" comment.   During Viet Nam we had a draft going.  Over 50,000 lives were lost in SE Asia.  The majority of those were enlisted draftees.   Explain your "paid killer" description of these soldiers, sailors and airmen.

 

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Spin Zone / Re: Two Modes
« on: February 07, 2024, 09:49:47 AM »
Good idea, but good luck with that anyway.
Can a tiger change its stripes or a leopard change its spots?

Why not.  Men can be women now.

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Only for Illegal Aliens who must serve ten years in servitude to stay here and then only a limited number of them.

Better yet, conscript all military age single men that entered illegally.  Make them serve a mandatory 6 year enlistment.  If they fail for whatever reason, deport them back to their home country.

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Spin Zone / Re: Pet Tax?
« on: February 05, 2024, 07:40:40 PM »
Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet

Taxman!
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

Don't ask me what I want it for (Aahh Mr. Wilson)
If you don't want to pay some more (Aahh Mr. Heath)
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

And you're working for no one but me
Taxman!

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Spin Zone / Re: Question:
« on: February 05, 2024, 02:24:01 PM »
   I made a comment in another thread how the left is war gaming a strategy to deny Trump the WH in case he wins.   That strategy is to start a slew of lawsuits in several states to litigate the elections and tie them up in court, thus when Jan 6th rolls around they cannot certify the election if neither party reaches the majority.   Then on Jan 20th, The Speaker (likely Jeffries) becomes president until congress under the twelfth amendment elects the president and vice president.

  If anyone objects, we will hear "What?  You don't believe in the rule of law?" and also "You want to deny our constitutional process?"

Never mind they will use lawfare to establish the basis of this.

  This lawfare business is a deadly game with no good outcome.

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Spin Zone / Re: Question:
« on: February 04, 2024, 06:39:43 PM »
Perhaps, but I am just trying to see how Trump’s attorneys blew it if the evidence is as you describe. They are rather highly paid.

Seriously????

It’s called “lawfare”.  It’s a crooked judge, in a highly partisan Democrat area.   Trumps attorneys were FORBIDDEN to submit certain evidence.   No matter what Trumps attorneys submitted, he was already guilty in the eyes of the court.   

Oh, and add on the judge almost quadrupling the settlement.   

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Spin Zone / Re: Question:
« on: February 02, 2024, 06:56:43 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Question:
« on: January 31, 2024, 12:29:18 PM »
Of course, what was I thinking?  Or maybe it's more like, "only if their accusee is not liberal".

Tara Reade

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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: January 31, 2024, 08:37:59 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: January 30, 2024, 06:46:51 AM »

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In typical republican fashion, it will be brought up for a vote, then several RINO's will vote it down.   This only empowers the democrat communist even more.

After one year of republican leadership, they have accomplished nothing.   Get ready for Speaker Jeffries next January.

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