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Spin Zone / Re: DNC emails exposed
« on: December 21, 2016, 10:49:53 AM »
Quote from: Witmo on December 21, 2016, 10:47:24 AM
Y'all are making accusations and all you can do is tell me to find something in thousands of emails of which you speak that somehow prove your accusations.  Well, sorry, but if you can't bother to find a specific email quote to back up an accusation, then, screw it, I'm gonna assume there ain't any examples other than pundits on Breitbart.com pulling crap out of context and making broad accusations with no real substance.

If someone were to quote a specific email, you will probably claim that it was taken out of context.


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Spin Zone / Re: President Trump
« on: December 20, 2016, 03:36:12 PM »
Quote from: Steingar on December 20, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
Trump is a complete amateur, a professional celebrity and little more.  He has placed mostly fellow amateurs in key positions around him.  I suspect the damage will be limited.  While his foreign policy will be a disaster I think the foreign leaders will soon learn to ignore him.
By "amateur" I assume you are referring to political status.  Yes, some of them may be political amateurs, but is that a bad thing?  Look where professional politicians got us.

But in general, you cannot call most of his appointees "amateurs".  They are largely very accomplished professionals in their fields.  Just like Obama was a professional agitator; and he proved to be very good at it at the highest level.

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Spin Zone / Re: Dear idiot Libs: we are at war
« on: December 20, 2016, 11:56:54 AM »
Well?

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Spin Zone / Re: President Trump
« on: December 20, 2016, 10:02:18 AM »
Quote from: Steingar on December 20, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
Trump is a complete amateur, a professional celebrity and little more.  He has placed mostly fellow amateurs in key positions around him.  I suspect the damage will be limited.  While his foreign policy will be a disaster I think the foreign leaders will soon learn to ignore him.

Actually, he is a lot more.  He is the leader of a multi-billion dollar company.  I know that being a CEO gets poo-pooed by the leftist elites as being an overpaid stuffed shirt, but I think it's because they don't understand the work or the responsibility.  It's an enormous amount to do.

I think his foreign policy will be to do what benefits the United States at home.  Our foreign policy for the past 15 years has been the failure.  Progressives decided that it was possible to stabilize foreign countries by turning them into open democracies, thereby making  them "better".  They thought that if we transferred enough American wealth and opportunity to the rest of the world then they would stop hating us so much.  ::) ::)

I could be really negative about Donald Trump, focus on his lack of government experience, his temperament and try to sabotage every thing that is said about him.  But instead, I choose to be hopeful that he will grow into being a good president and that he will do what is best for the country.  He will make some mistakes, everyone does because there is no job training for being President...nobody comes into the office prepared to do it. 


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Spin Zone / Re: Dear idiot Libs: we are at war
« on: December 20, 2016, 09:52:16 AM »
Quote from: Steingar on December 20, 2016, 09:11:21 AM
I doubt it strongly.  Unlike you guys I have an IQ in the triple digits.  I know that there are a billion Muslims, roughly one in every ten humans on planet Earth.  To ascribe any political goal or ideology that encompasses all of them is pure folly.

There are actually closer to 2 billion muslims and they are almost 25% of the worlds population, but don't let the facts get in the way of your triple digit IQ.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/04/02/397042004/muslim-population-will-surpass-christians-this-century-pew-says

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Spin Zone / Re: Dear idiot Libs: we are at war
« on: December 20, 2016, 09:34:37 AM »
Quote from: Steingar on December 20, 2016, 09:11:21 AM
I doubt it strongly.  Unlike you guys I have an IQ in the triple digits.  I know that there are a billion Muslims, roughly one in every ten humans on planet Earth.  To ascribe any political goal or ideology that encompasses all of them is pure folly.

You clearly suffer from the liberal phenomenon of being absolutely certain you are the smartest person in the room.
Then you prove how false that assumption is and keep digging for the bottom.
Good work from a progressive tool without a freaking clue.
It really is all that can be expected from you.

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Spin Zone / Re: Steingar in trouble
« on: December 20, 2016, 07:39:10 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on December 20, 2016, 07:20:02 AM
Michael is a good guy.  We need an opposing point of view.  :)

I think many teachers, and professors allow their progressive bias to bleed into their classrooms.  Often, I believe it is unintentional, but sometimes I am sure it is intentional. 

Michael, when you are ready, I'd like to hear your PIO story.  Remember, as a Grumman driver I know the drill.

more important would be whether or not he gives lower grades to conservatives and anyone who doesn't buy into his liberal BS.


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Spin Zone / Re: Proof of Russian Hacking!
« on: December 19, 2016, 05:01:53 PM »
Quote from: Witmo on December 19, 2016, 04:37:46 PM
Do you understand the difference between voicing an opinion and hacking into an American computer system and seeding supposed emails from this illegal activity to favor one American candidate over another or alternatively, cast doubt as to the legitimacy of the American political system?

When Premier Smith from Country X says Trump is a dangerous psychopath, I can agree with him or disagree with him but I can also blow him off completely and say he should mind his own business but he can say whatever he wants to 'cuz I ain't his mother.  If Premier Smith orders a cyber attack against the US to corrupt our election, that's a whole different kettle of fish.  Can you see the difference or should I use smaller words?

Yeah, about that, the emails are authentic.   The link below explains how each email is "cryptographically non-repudiable".  In the beginning of this Hillary's campaign tried the "but they have been tampered with "  slant, but no go, they are real.

https://wikileaks.org/DKIM-Verification.html

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Spin Zone / Re: Even MSNBC is telling Hillary to STFU and stop blaming others!
« on: December 19, 2016, 11:35:56 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on December 19, 2016, 11:30:29 AM
But....but....but...it was her turn!!   It was hers!  She deserves this!!!

 Power hungry sick tired old crook.  She won't go away until the media stops fawning over her.

Her entire message, if she actually had one, was paradoxical.  It was four more years of Obama, yet things were so terrible (after eight years of Obama) that we needed her communist agenda to fix things.  WTF?

The MSNBC people were right though, she really had no story to tell beyond "it's my turn".  She is the ultimate LOSER. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Micro v macro
« on: December 19, 2016, 10:49:10 AM »
Quote from: Becky on December 19, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
Good point.  To the left, microagressions are a real thing. To the right, microagressions are laughable and juvenile. How to convince the left to let the concept go might be a better question.

another topic would be how to avoid crying wolf so often that real aggression is pooh-pooh'd and overlooked.


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Spin Zone / Re: Chewbakka Feels Hopeless
« on: December 19, 2016, 12:30:05 AM »
Quote from: Number7 on December 18, 2016, 07:42:11 PM
I do not think the wookie that calls himself Michelle Obama gets to decided for the country whether we feel hopeful, or not.

She is upset that Obama's legacy will be erased in a few months by Trump.  The illegal aliens pouring in, Obamacare, the EPA, DOJ, IRS over reach, all those Executive Orders, etc.  Gone, all gone.  Obama will go down in history as the worst President.  In addition, no more taxpayer paid vacations, and world travel.  She will be irrelevant, and insignificanct, and most of the country is saying GOOD RIDDANCE.  That's why she has no hope. 

Don't let the door hit you in your fat ass Michelle. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Proof of Russian Hacking!
« on: December 18, 2016, 08:07:37 PM »
This topic has gotten rather ridiculous.

The indignation from the left  comes across as false.  Maybe they are really upset over Russia's interference, but
1) they haven't shown the same feelings about George Soros's meddling.
2) it isn't like Russia doing this is new.
3) the US is not the sole focus. 

Grow up already. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Proof of Russian Hacking!
« on: December 18, 2016, 03:40:04 PM »
Quote from: Witmo on December 18, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
You really expect Putin to admit or put forth the reasons for interfering with internal American politics?  I don't really care what his reasons were.  I don't really care whether Democrats were targeted or Republicans were targeted or Rosie O'donnell was targeted.  The Russians have no business meddling in our business.  I'm relying on what our intelligence agencies have concluded with high confidence. 

I don't care about any "charge that the leaking of DNC emails by Wikileaks affected the election."  I care that Putin directed hacking into American systems and his intent. The intent can be derived by anyone with a brain by what was released from the hacking.  You all have shifted the focus to what was hacked and it's effect on the election--the focus should be on Russia doing anything to interfere regardless of whether it was effective or not.  Your continuing focus on what was hacked makes me believe that you think it's okay because it reinforces your case against the godless Democrats. In your world it would be okay for cops to break into a home and search it without a search warrant provided they find evidence of a crime.  Seems like you would do well in Nazi Germany of the 1940s and any talk about the sanctity of our Bill of Rights is just eyewash as long as you benefit from looking the other way.

Witmo, you are being taken for a ride.  This wasn't putin, it was a disgruntled Bernie supporter in the dnc for one for one of the leaks and phishing scheme by some putz who got lucky because Podesta is a moron and exposed his gmail account, apparently for months for the other leak.   The dems have tried 4 or 5 different narratives since Trump whooped Hillary, this one has got a little traction because liberals are so gullible. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Take a good look
« on: December 17, 2016, 09:35:01 AM »
I read this morning that party was described as "a wake with a band.

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Spin Zone / Re: Proof of Russian Hacking!
« on: December 16, 2016, 08:28:40 PM »
Once again, Obama and all his sycophants have accomplished their goal, which was to divert attention from the content of the emails to the source of them.  The emails themselves are damning evidence of corruption at the highest levels and prove unfitness to hold high office.

And EVEN IF ( a big IF) it was the Russians who did it (unlikely), that in itself shows the total incompetence of the people entrusted with our national secrets.

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