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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 11, 2021, 11:53:49 AM »
At least I can post something other than insults.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 11, 2021, 10:53:34 AM »
We nearly tanked our medical system (and please don't tell me it didn't happen, MDs told me).
It didn't happen.  Hearsay.  Inadmissible.
And there were all those tent emergency rooms that went unused.  All those vents that went unused.  TWO hospital ships that went unused.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 11, 2021, 10:37:18 AM »
600,000 Americans died with us doing all we could to stop the spread of the virus.  We nearly tanked our medical system (and please don't tell me it didn't happen, MDs told me).  Had we done nothing it would have been far, far worse. Basically what India and Indonesia are going through right now.  Trump combatted good sense antiviral strategies at every step of the way. I can't imagine how many people died because of his shit.

There’s your sum-up lie again.

You mean he combatted strategies like getting vaccines developed and recommending HCQ? Keep up. Your argument isn’t aging well.

As well, you’re touting Trump-initiated vaccines.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 11, 2021, 03:38:18 AM »
Let us not forget that the estimate is $440B of fraud in the distribution of all that borrowed money.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 11, 2021, 02:26:55 AM »
The alleged origin was either Pangolins or certain bats, but neither species resided anywhere near the outbreak. In one sense it does not matter whether the virus mutation was natural or deliberately man-made - it was Chinese researchers who paid bounties to have the bats brought to the Wuhan labs and presumably replicated potentially dangerous viruses. One does not need to delve into genetic probabilities or intent since the Chinese lab personnel are already culpable for poor bio safety protocols. They are responsible.

THIS.  Although it matters from the standpoint of whether or not the Chinese are deliberately trying to engineer bioweapons and also it matters that the U.S. taxpayers funded their research, whether altruistic or malicious; as a taxpayer I'm sick of paying salaries of bureaucrats, politicians and academics, to do stuff I probably wouldn't approve of.

That is what this all boils down to: the intellectual and political elite draining the ordinary American of wealth and funneling it uphill - I'm beginning to see why Marxism appeals to the proletariat. Except it isn't capitalism doing this it's government, but useful idiots can't see the difference for some reason.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 10, 2021, 10:47:45 PM »
The alleged origin was either Pangolins or certain bats, but neither species resided anywhere near the outbreak. In one sense it does not matter whether the virus mutation was natural or deliberately man-made - it was Chinese researchers who paid bounties to have the bats brought to the Wuhan labs and presumably replicated potentially dangerous viruses. One does not need to delve into genetic probabilities or intent since the Chinese lab personnel are already culpable for poor bio safety protocols. They are responsible.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 10, 2021, 06:35:38 PM »
I was with you until the last sentence.  Do you seriously think un-woke people are going to get rid of vaccines?
That’s why it’s difficult for me to give credence to what he says. He always sums up with a lie.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 10, 2021, 04:10:13 PM »
You think COVID was some sort of hoax?  You really believe that 600,000 Americans didn't die of COVID?  You really believe that it isn't ravaging other nations in the world as I write this? By Odin you're delusional.  You get your news from people who's own lawyers claim they aren't credible.
I personally don't think COVID was a hoax.  It was a serious disease with serious repercussions.

But I think the shutting down of the economy, giving millions of people trillions of dollars and destroying productivity was a scam designed to destroy Trump.  That was the real hoax.  The hoax wasn't the virus, but the politicization of the virus.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 10, 2021, 08:34:19 AM »
"Science" is now the State Religion.

Oppose it and you will be ostracized. Stake-burning later.
Well except for the chromosome and gender thing. In that case the State Religion turns its back on science so people don’t get their feelings hurt.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 10, 2021, 08:18:36 AM »
"Science" is now the State Religion.

Oppose it and you will be ostracized. Stake-burning later.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 10, 2021, 08:02:19 AM »
Plagues have overtaken humanity again and again throughout history.  Thankfully we now have scientists who can make vaccines to head these things off.  I doubt we'll have such things for long though.  Sooner or later folks with the mindset of the people on this board will do away with all of it.

It’s a shame, isn’t it? Weaponizing and politicizing science and government, and using them against the people, as evidenced through clearly convoluted and inaccurate claims and information, arbitrarily changing “guidelines,” manipulation of death and case rates, suppression on social media of discussion about vaccines and what people are experiencing from them, official “dismissal” as “coincidence” of all claims of vaccine-related deaths or harsh suffering from side effects, and even suppression of and resistance to an open and through audit of our very votes.

Where once we trusted the government fairly implicitly on such things as votes and vaccines, the government richly and thoroughly and substantively now has earned our implicit distrust.

So you’re right. Next time, expect no trust in the systems and people that have so spectacularly shown that their interest is neither our safety nor our security.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 10, 2021, 05:08:07 AM »
I want to shrink myself down to a nanoparticle and go on a voyage into the RNA of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and see for myself what’s going on.

I'll just imagine you as Raquel Welch, that will make for a fantastic voyage!




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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 08, 2021, 06:52:03 AM »
Sadly, yes.  the Sabin vaccine is actually a mutated virus that doesn't make a successful infection.  But a mutant virus can have reversion mutations, where it mutates back to wild type, which is what the polio did.  Sabin's vaccine was developed to inoculate children in nations with poor medical infrastructure.  it doesn't need to be injected.  The current vaccines are either mRNAs or gene therapy vectors, and can't revert to a disease causing state.l

 An increased risk of .001%.  Flu kills .1% of its victims.  Covid kills 1%, and maims lots more.
From the CDC:
I am guaranteeing that the fetus is far more likely to be affected by an active COVID infection than a vaccine.
The pull of a Physician advising the public is a tricky thing.  My guess is they're really not thinking at all.  The sort of severe illness caused by Covid is really really bad for unborn children.  There isn't a mechanism by which an mRNA vaccine (or one from a gene therapy vector) could cause disease in a. fetus, and it is never happened that we know of.
Were there valid concerns I'd be a poser.  Since there are not I am trying to be a public servant.  Get the vaccine.  There is no reason not to, and you can help stop the spread of a deadly disease.

My only beef with this post is the CDC saying vaccines have not been shown to cause SIDS. Note the careful wording. They have also not been shown not to cause SIDS. We don’t know what causes SIDS.

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Spin Zone / Re: Highly Contagious Mutation Found!
« on: June 04, 2021, 10:03:00 AM »
Many people are taking a wait and see approach.

As am I.  I am not an anti-vaxer -- I've gotten a bunch of them, but trials take a long time and the people pushing this one have been lying to us from the beginning.

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I think making other nations trading partners, even ones with which we disagree, is really good policy.  Keeps us from going to war.  No matter how. much you think we've lost to China, it would be dwarfed by going to war with China.  Wars are expensive.
The keyword here is "partners".  The ChiComs are hardly partners on a level playing field.  We're free to buy their crap but they put huge tariffs on anything we want to sell to them.  Trump tried to level the playing field but was called racist for doing so.  I agree with you if they were indeed partners.  As it is, they are selling the rope we will hang ourselves with.

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