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That is a good question of whether a much smaller number of fraudulent votes could have affected the electoral college outcome is a good one.


Of course it could. In 2000 Bush won Florida by 537 votes and that’s what won the whole election. What are you talking about?

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So the first thing I went to look for was the actual popular vote counts as reported. It seems like Joe Biden won by over 7M votes, or 5.1%. (https://www.cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker). So it really isn't a case of an inherent level of statistical uncertainty causing the confusion here. Instead one has to find evidence for some process that would result in over 7M false votes.


We don’t need 7M false votes to fraudulently change the result. Because of the electoral system it was only a few thousand in select counties that did it.  I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.

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Well Rush, at least you are open about your non-falsifiable belief!
You use that phrase as if it somehow implies that a plurality of anecdotal evidence is not valid data. But it is. The election was stolen. Rush is correct in her observations. I watched many testimonies and read many of the affidavits that came out right after the election. Most quickly were suppressed. The speed with which AG Barr insisted no evidence of cheating was found was a giant tell. He didn’t even look, therefore he didn’t find. The whole situation we are in is a perfect illustration of the old fable of the emperor with no clothes. Anyone insisting Biden got 81 million votes and won the election is living in a fantasy.

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Well Rush, at least you are open about your non-falsifiable belief!

Biden is not the legitimate president. Even if there was ZERO technical cheating, there was an admitted organized plan carried out months ahead of time by a group of “racketeers” to change election methods to ensure a Dem win (sometimes against state constitutional law) by, allowing universal mail in ballots, targeting specific swing states for voter registration and ballot harvesting but only among Dems.  Mark Zuckerberg funded that with hundreds of millions of dollars going to blue but not red districts. 

It was the mail in ballots that pushed Biden over Trump in the middle of the night and there are plenty of questions about the legitimacy of all those mail ins, such as multiple ballots that had identical marks (having been copied). 

When I moved to Texas I received a ballot from NC and had to call the county and have them remove me from the voter rolls. That does NOT happen automatically.  I could have filled it out and mailed it in and also voted in Texas. My sister received two ballots, one for her and one for our mother. Our mother was completely demented and didn’t vote. My sister could easily have filled out both ballots for whoever she wanted.  When my mother died I had to notify the election board of the death and they required a copy of the death certificate. How many people do that?  There are countless dead people still on voter rolls everywhere, and, beginning in 2020, many were mailed ballots. Convince me their family members never fill them out and “vote” for them.

You will never convince me there aren’t many people who did just that and were never found out or moved and voted in two places. I don’t care if that’s “falsifiable” or not, it is common sense. Mail in ballots are not secure and should be outlawed except for very limited situations. You’re overseas in the military or on extended business, you’re literally housebound from disability. That’s about it, and you should be required to show proof.

Automatic voter registration when you get a drivers license should be banned. Automatic voter machines should be banned. Early voting should be banned. Extended early voting causes a skewed result because people vote before learning critical last minute information about the candidates.

Poll workers need to be bipartisan. If partisan workers ban observers from the room or restrict them to a far corner, as happened in 2020, the election result in that district should be thrown out and those responsible criminally prosecuted for election interference.

Elections in the U.S are a joke.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: February 11, 2024, 01:37:28 PM »
I think she's more Trans-Species than anything.
And the campaign slogan: "Let the Wookie win."

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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin
« on: February 10, 2024, 08:54:02 AM »
It's refreshing to hear the other side of the story.  We've been fed Z's and FJB's side nonstop for over a year.  Now we can hear the other side.  There's propaganda on both sides, half truths, and outright lies.  But to censor one side in favor of the other is a hallmark of a totalitarian regime.  Critical thinking must be suppressed at all costs.  Blind obedience is required.

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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin
« on: February 10, 2024, 08:03:57 AM »
The left media is pissed that Tucker dared to share a side of the story they didn’t approve.

jim is parroting their position but couching it in terms of faux concern about how people hearing more than one bias is a danger to democracy.

More nonsense from a pretend libertarian.

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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin
« on: February 10, 2024, 05:37:57 AM »
There have been plenty of English language translations on the Internet of Putin and the Kremlin's views and public goals. If Carlson wants to spread them beyond the wonks who read that stuff that's fine with me. I simply state that he is engaging in propaganda, not journalism.

At his noblest Carlson may be attempting to promote non-interventionism. An excellent goal - but the whole point of non-intervention is to remove foreign war triggers. Promoting non-intervention after wars start often seems to yield worse results than fighting them to win.

Everything everyone says these days is propaganda. No one is claiming Tucker is unbiased, and the idea of a 100% unbiased journalist is a myth. At best, a good journalist endeavors to be objective but we are all human. So I am having trouble with:

1. Your judgement that Putin’s propaganda is worse than Zelensky’s and

2. Your implication therefore that Putin’s “reach” should be limited.

You are stating that we should not access more thorough information about the Kremlin’s views than the currently available public sources the “wonks” read?  What?…. We should be satisfied with what mainstream media and the Biden Administration want us to know about Putin’s point of view?  Since when do you trust those entities? We shouldn’t judge for ourselves to what extent Putin is lying and twisting the truth?  Do you seriously believe the pro-Ukraine propaganda is any less lies and twisted half truths?

And if you think we should not retreat to a non-intervention position, now that the war has started, does that mean you support continuing throwing money at Ukraine while our border is undefended? 

I don’t think you think all of the above, you just don’t like Tucker for some reason and therefore don’t like that he went over there and got a Putin interview.  But correct me if I’m wrong.

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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin
« on: February 10, 2024, 04:39:12 AM »
That is the empty set. The meaning that I use are:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journalist
"journalist:
1 a: a person engaged in journalism
especially : a writer or editor for a news medium"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journalism

"journalism:
2 b: writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation"

Huge deflection.  Nice try.   ::)

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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin
« on: February 09, 2024, 12:00:07 PM »
Tucker Carlson sure got attention, which is what he desired.
He is a "journalist" in the same way Rachel Maddow is.

I wonder if Carlson will also request an interview Zelensky?

Comparing Tucker Carlson to  Maddow is like Comparing George Washington to Biden. 

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Spin Zone / Re: 53 MM FOR ILLEGALS IN NY
« on: February 07, 2024, 04:32:52 PM »
Gretzky has endorsed Kevin McCarthy for the job! WTF is that about? Tweaking McCarthy?

In an unsurprising move, Rep. Matt Gaetz, has once again taken aim at his favorite target: Kevin McCarthy.

Following the news that Ronna McDaniel is stepping down after South Carolina primary Gaetz announced his “full endorsement” of McCarthy for RNC Chair, citing the position’s complete lack of actual responsibilities as its most attractive feature.

“I fully endorse Kevin McCarthy for RNC Chair. Kevin is well organized and a very high-revenue fundraiser. He will also be well-liked by the RNC Committee. The RNC Chair doesn’t make any policy decisions, set any agenda, or negotiate against Democrats, ever. Kevin would be terrific,” stated Gaetz.

The post Gaetz Strikes Again: Endorses McCarthy For RNC Chair, Celebrates Position’s Lack Of Responsibilities appeared first on The Pavlovic Today.

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Spin Zone / Nikki Loses To NONE OF THE ABOVE in Nevada
« on: February 07, 2024, 12:01:32 PM »
This election primary season has got to out do all the past ones for hilarity and craziness.

 Nikki came in a distant second in Nevada last night to NONE OF THE ABOVE. That has to leave a mark.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/02/07/nikki-haley-hilariously-loses-to-none-of-the-above-in-nevada-n3782473

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Isn't it a requirement to include the phrase, "You don't believe the science," also?
So you're a science denier?  MODERATORS!  I demand that this person be removed for saying things I don't agree with.

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Bring back The Articles of Confederation.
So you're in favor of slavery???

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Spin Zone / Re: Question:
« on: February 06, 2024, 10:52:11 AM »
I do not understand what you think is incorrect, so feel free to elaborate.

I have only looked into the J6 prisoners issue a bit. My impression of it is that in general the sentences have been over the top, the treatment of them rather outrageous, and not even vaguely approaching a speedy trial.

Some of them did commit violence against law enforcement but most did not and even the violence was not generally of a serious nature. Unfortunately in our society any physical resistance to an arrest is now considered a felony assault on the LEO. Personally I would consider it moral, though extremely ill-advised, for people to go and break them out of prison.
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We do not yet live in a society where we need to fear the government taking violent action against us simply because of our expressed beliefs, at least not as average citizens.
The vast majority of those people are average citizens who felt the election was mishandled and fraudulent.

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