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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 24, 2023, 07:49:36 AM »
Y’all are just sniping at each other from the extreme positions when I would love a dispassionate analytical discussion.  For example, Steingar, when you say Lucifer doesn’t actually know what communism is, I’d like to know what you think it is, and what Lucifer thinks it is, and then go from there, parsing out the formal definitions, real world examples, successes and failures, etc.  But you all never get that satisfyingly deep for me.  :'(

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 24, 2023, 06:03:39 AM »
Quote from: Number7 on March 24, 2023, 05:17:07 AM
It looks like President Trump polls ahead of the senile imposter, and everybody else in a 2024 matchup.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/23/donald-trump-holds-definitive-lead-joe-biden-likely-2024-matchup/

“Trump would beat Biden in a landslide,” the pollster analyzed.

Did the pollster account for the cheating?

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 22, 2023, 04:17:15 PM »
Quote from: nddons on March 22, 2023, 12:31:19 PM
Sorry, but you need to back up your first sentence.

DeSantis co-founded the House Freedom Caucus. How does he accept the status quo if the swamp?

In May 2021 DeSantis signed a voting bill that enforced voter ID, banned ballot harvesting, prohibited mass mailing of ballots, and prohibits use of private funds (Zucker Bucks) for election related expenses. Not exactly the status quo, is it? 

John Bolton said on Rumble that DeSantis is “a puppet” for the MIC. This is rich from a guy who hasn’t found a country yet they he didn’t want to invade and conduct regime change operations.

Meanwhile, LAST WEEK, DeSantis said we shouldn’t be involved in providing weaponry and money to Ukraine.  That’s certain to piss off the MIC. So which is it - is he a slave to the MIC, or is he an independent thinker on the use of military force?

All good points Stan, but can he get support from the Republican Party, which is run by the Establishment staying that way? Will he Administer that way? Dunno, guess we'll see.

Like I said. I've got no problem with the guy. Trump has a proven track record of running on the proper agenda then actually putting it in place.  Yes, he may be damaged goods. So far, I'm willing to take that calculated risk.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 22, 2023, 09:49:41 AM »
Quote from: nddons on March 22, 2023, 08:18:49 AM
For 45 years I’ve had to vote for candidates that I didn’t want, but who became my nominee. I don’t think MAGA supporters are stupid, and won’t be stupid when it comes to the general election and sit on their hands. Though there are a few here that I wonder about.

I’m still trying to figure out the point of your last paragraph, which you keep bringing up when I bring up my support of DeSantis. I’m not ignorant of the problems, but what point are you trying to make?  That we shouldn’t even fight since it’s in the cards that we lose?  That’s not in my DNA. I’ll fight until my last breath, because doing anything less means surrender. Is that what you’re advocating - we should act like the French?

I have no problem with DeSantis except he accepts the status quo of the Swamp, voter fraud, catering to the MIC, etc. Until he says and DOES differently I'll back Trump if I become politically active again.  Nothing is going to change until we attack the root cause of the problem.  The Uniparty.

I'll add that supporting and voting for Establishment Republicans, and most are, is counterproductive and actually works against our cause. It just continues and strengthens the corruption happening. No more lesser of two evils for me. Done!

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 22, 2023, 06:54:46 AM »
I completely agree with Styx on DeSantis here.  He nails what has been bothering me in the back of my mind about DeSantis but couldn’t articulate.  While I thought DeSantis’s reaction to the NY witch hunt against Trump was “okay”, it was not satisfying.

DeSantis missed an opportunity to subjugate Trump and seal his position as a younger, stronger, more dominant male. (I’ll let Styx explain how.) Instead it came off as grudging support but including a little moral self righteous dig.  This actually kept him on Trump’s level or below. 

With the mess this country is in, I want the strongest Alpha on our side. Between the two of them right now, it’s still Trump.  That could change in 18 months, and eventually will change as Trump ages, but DeSantis has yet to prove himself.

9:15 to 18:00


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 21, 2023, 10:35:27 AM »
Quote from: nddons on March 21, 2023, 10:20:56 AM
What makes you say that?  I see a potential second term consisting of personal retribution, not governance.

But this is academic. No one here has made a good case as to how he will attract the middle in order to win a general election, which is a requirement to becoming president.

That’s one reason I like DeSantis over Trump. The second is I could get 8 years out of DeSantis. That matters greatly, given our ages.

He wanted a second term and being literally cheated out of it is the source of all his current rage.  If he gets his second term, I have no reason to think he won’t continue the same country building good policies he did the first time. No reason he can’t do that and get personal retribution; the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 20, 2023, 10:41:06 AM »
I don't mind Trump being an arrogant, narcissist. They all are, he just doesn't try to hide it. That's called honesty.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 19, 2023, 03:44:33 PM »
Quote from: Little Joe on March 19, 2023, 01:25:53 PM
Why should they?  Trump doesn't give a damn about the damage he causes to the party...,

I'm not sure Trump is even a republican.  I myself don't care about the Republican Party.  I hope it does get damaged, even destroyed.

What Trump does care about is America and ordinary Americans. What galls him is this once great country has been brought to its knees by the elites.  What Trumps hates is that the politicians are destroying the hopes and dreams of ordinary Americans and his actions have shown that he wants that restored.

It's been over six years and you still can't figure that out.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 17, 2023, 07:14:15 PM »
Quote from: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 17, 2023, 06:45:12 PM
FOXNews is reporting Trump will be arrested next week. What is your opinion on what will happen poll wise and support wise should that occur?

The dubious legal theory is outlined here:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/03/alvin-bragg-prepares-to-torch-his-credibility-for-a-mug-shot/

The DA is torching his own career for a momentary show. Anyone paying attention already knows that the left has been trying for years to pin something on Trump and the left doesn't care how it is done. So I don't think it will affect the polls much.

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Spin Zone / Re: SVB & Signature Bank
« on: March 15, 2023, 07:15:31 PM »
Quote from: nddons on March 15, 2023, 01:12:45 PM
Let me know when Trump can give us 8 years of a Republican presidency.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Trump actually won the last election.

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Spin Zone / Re: SVB & Signature Bank
« on: March 15, 2023, 06:17:13 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on March 14, 2023, 05:40:04 PM
There are none so blind as those that will not see.


You post about others' voluntary blindness, then constantly admit through your postings that the main stream leads you by the nose.

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Spin Zone / Re: SVB & Signature Bank
« on: March 15, 2023, 05:39:01 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on March 14, 2023, 03:34:42 PM
I think that ship has sailed.  Can you point to a single case where he has said he was wrong or apologized?  I don't think he can do it.
Because Trump has never been wrong.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 11, 2023, 06:46:32 AM »
In recent questioning at a hearing a Biden admin official could not provide info on what percentage of Government workers were actually working now that COVID is over.  I would find out who isn't working full time at this point and fire the whole lot and never replace them.

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Spin Zone / Re: McCarthy Releases 41,000 Hours Of Jan. 6 Footage To Tucker Carlson
« on: March 10, 2023, 09:28:00 AM »
Quote from: Number7 on March 10, 2023, 08:56:17 AM
The fucking, communist compromised senate minority leader comrade mcconnell, is terrified about what is coming out.
It would be a shame if his fall did him in.

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Spin Zone / Re: Tucker Carlson hated Trump
« on: March 08, 2023, 05:21:26 PM »
Quote from: Lucifer on March 08, 2023, 04:58:27 PM
Gee, how odd the timing of this and Tucker Carlson releasing more J6 video. 

Just a coincidence I’m sure.   ::)
Exactly. Their entire goal is to divide the conservative movement. Not the Republican Party, but conservatives in general.

Don’t play their games.

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