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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 13, 2023, 07:44:23 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on February 13, 2023, 06:54:22 AM
I think what a lot of people are underestimating is the depth of the hatred of Trump.  We are not going to fix that.  EVER.  And if people keep pushing Trump, then Lucifer will be 100% correct.

The inference I'm getting is that you think all the cheating is about preventing Trump from winning.  I think they'll keep up the cheating if DeSantis or any Republican runs.  It's been too successful.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 13, 2023, 07:08:30 AM »
The problem is that Republicans try to win on issues.  democrats try to win on ballots.  Issues will never win in the short term, ballots will.  democrats didn't even put forth any issues last presidential election.  FJB hid in the basement for the duration and his minions flooded the election with ballots.  We cannot win unless we play the same game they do.  It's Viet Nam all over again.  Carpet bombing with issues will never win against guerrilla voting.  It's time to get down and dirty and play their game to win.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 12, 2023, 09:54:56 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Congressional hearing on Twitter tyranny
« on: February 10, 2023, 10:54:13 AM »
Quote from: nddons on February 10, 2023, 10:23:05 AM
When the FBI made Twitter an agent of the government, Twitter employees are liable.

Under the law of agency, the agent will not be liable for acts performed for the principal as long as the relationship between the principal and the agent has been disclosed.

But if the agency relationship is NOT disclosed to a third parties, BOTH the agent (Twitter) and the principal (FedGov) are liable for acts performed by the agent.
Ah, that's the part I was missing.  Twitter, on their own, censoring speech is well within their right as a private company.  But as soon as they started acting as an agent of the government, then that's when they ran afoul of the law.

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Spin Zone / Re: Chinese Spy Ballon Floating Acrosd America
« on: February 07, 2023, 12:55:27 PM »
Quote from: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 07, 2023, 11:12:59 AM
Bongino's take today is that the balloon was not about spying, more about China saying we own you and can do anything we want.

Don't need a balloon for that, just walk into a Walmart.

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Spin Zone / Re: Chinese Spy Ballon Floating Acrosd America
« on: February 05, 2023, 09:58:30 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 03, 2023, 03:28:38 PM »
We all agree that Trump’s continued shining of bright light on deep state betrayals of the American people enrages entrenched corrupt politicians of both parties, and that rather than begin to do the work of THE PEOPLE as he did, they will continue to attack and try to destroy, discredit and remove him (or anyone with the same goals) as a threat to their personal traitorous enrichment through grifting and the continued power that enables it.

I don’t have time to take apart each of bflynn’s claims about what President Trump didn’t accomplish, but several in his list I know to be false. I suspect bflynn gets a certain dosage of mainstream stuff because a number of his claims reek of their twisted talking points and of course deliberate failure to report anything good about Donald J. Trump.

I just looked through my saved lists of Trump accomplishments and they are off the chart amazing. The ones on the White House website during his term have been removed, of course.

Equally if not more impressive are the compiled lists of dozens and dozens of lies with links, perpetrated against President Trump.

What he accomplished under constant, aggressive pushback from all sides is nothing short of miraculous. But it was because he is not only WHO he is, he is an OUTSIDER. DeSantis is not.

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Spin Zone / Re: Chinese Spy Ballon Floating Acrosd America
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:44:23 AM »
I think that the point isn't recon.  It's to say that we can fly over your territory and you won't do anything about it.  Much more for propaganda at home (China) and to stir up the masses (here) than any actual intelligence gathered. Oops... so sorry.  Not.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:26:45 AM »
All that may be true, but none of those are directly under the president's control.  The Congress controls the money.  He can make all the demands he wants but unless the Congress gives him the money to do it, it can't be done.

I submit that he wasn't given a chance to succeed, by design.  With Congress (both R and D), the MSM, the deep state, and pretty much everything besides half the nation aligned against him, I'm very impressed that he did as much as he did.  Add in all the distractions of non-stop investigations, and there you go.

I would love to see what he can accomplish with another term as president.  But even if he gets elected, there's no way the forces aligned against him will allow him to succeed.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 03, 2023, 09:57:28 AM »
Quote from: bflynn on February 03, 2023, 09:43:03 AM
The ruling wasn't leaked to fire up the base, because it was going to come out before the election anyway, it wasn't going to be hidden.  If anything, it was leaked early to try to let the storm die down before the election.

wow - that's quite the spin you put on that.

consider this:  leaking it early allowed it to be in the news cycle for a longer period of time.

in other words, I call BS on the claim that it was leaked early to let the storm die down.


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 02, 2023, 06:50:49 PM »
Quote from: Jim Logajan on February 02, 2023, 06:10:56 PM
Speaking of agendas - has Trump outlined what he would do if reelected?

Yes, he has.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda

And there is more. He continues to hold massive rallies. He is releasing short videos outlining actions he will take on all the issues that concern me the most. He will release America’s energy. In a recent video he said he would go straight for the jugular on gender mutilation of children.  As President, he kept his promises more than any President in my lifetime.

I’m with Rush on this. He is not perfect. But he fights for America and for human flourishing harder than any possible candidates in any party. It’s true the RINOs and globalists hate him. It’s when the RINOs and globalists go silent that worries me. They’ll never go silent on hating Trump and will always try to replace him with a globalist.

Enter DeSantis. I’ve seen plenty of clips and articles on Gab of DeSantis being very inconsistent considering how many think he is the new, improved Trump. He is not. I am not convinced yet that he is unbribeable or pro America to the extent we need to restore our government to serving us. He is a governor; we need a fighter.

Of course this whole discussion is academic until elections are secure. We all have differing experiences and views on that. But at the very core of my existence is the certainty that elections are being precision-targeted in certain states and precincts to steal them. The world knows this.   


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 02, 2023, 11:23:58 AM »
Quote from: bflynn on February 02, 2023, 08:04:31 AM
I think it's because too many people know his true character now and it turns them off.  I'm slightly right of center and I will not vote for him, I'll write in a candidate first.  I suspect there are many others like me, so if he only has support from 40-45% of the country, how can he win?

Additionally, he is a lightning rod.  As soon as he is in the race, Democrats will pull out all the stops to get out the vote, they will have record turnout again.  Republicans are not well served by having Democrats energized and learning to vote.  If someone voted last election, they're likely to vote again. 

And yes, that will include cheating, but at this point they almost don't need that anymore.  It's a lot more than "they cheated".

True character?  He’s the same as he’s always been. Speaks his mind, what you see is what you get, with a little bombast and hyperbole.

If you and many others like you won’t vote for him in the general then you’re insane. You must like high gas prices and the threat of WW3.  If you vote for someone else in the primary, that’s fine. But only DeSantis has a shot at it and he hasn’t declared.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: February 02, 2023, 08:37:40 AM »
Quote from: bflynn on February 02, 2023, 08:04:31 AM
I think it's because too many people know his true character now and it turns them off.  I'm slightly right of center and I will not vote for him, I'll write in a candidate first.  I suspect there are many others like me, so if he only has support from 40-45% of the country, how can he win?

Additionally, he is a lightning rod.  As soon as he is in the race, Democrats will pull out all the stops to get out the vote, they will have record turnout again.  Republicans are not well served by having Democrats energized and learning to vote.  If someone voted last election, they're likely to vote again. 

And yes, that will include cheating, but at this point they almost don't need that anymore.  It's a lot more than "they cheated".
Other than his demeanor and his mean Tweets, please tell us which policies of his you didn't like?
Was it the closing of the border, mostly?

The low unemployment numbers, especially among blacks and Hispanics?

How about the tax cuts that have brought us record revenues?

Maybe it was the growth in the economy?

Was it because he didn't start any new wars and was working a plan to end the one in Afghanistan?



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Spin Zone / Re: 15 Votes: THREE Freedom Caucus Members to be Added to Hourse Rules Committee
« on: January 07, 2023, 07:20:17 AM »
My Tweet this morning.....

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Spin Zone / 15 Votes: THREE Freedom Caucus Members to be Added to House Rules Committee
« on: January 07, 2023, 07:12:32 AM »
Establishment RINOS and other weak-kneed republicans can bitch all they want about the 15 ballots needed to elect RINO mccarthy as Speaker,
but the BIG news is the agreement to add THREE members of the Freedom Caucus to the House Rules Committee.

Those ignorant of the process had no idea (and most still don't) why that is important.

THREE "no" votes kills any bill from going forward. mccarthy fought that to the last second (literally with 39 seconds to go before the house adjourned
until Monday at noon, because it allows conservatives and other NON-communist-controlled house members to stop the never-ending bribe machine
funneling thru the ukraine.

mitch mcconnelll can't send billions to our enemies without the house going along and those three members are the only stop sign to the bribe process.

Another big rule concession by mccarthy was a rule change allowing a no-confidence vote on the speaker with just one member putting it forward.

While rank-and-file rinos, and other uninformed whiners complained all week, the four members with backbone stood up as long as it took to add at
least some accountability to a brutally corrupt house.

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