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Spin Zone / Re: Chris Coomo Fired
« on: Today at 02:16:09 PM »
For a channel I never watch, and I guy I would never watch or listen to, I don't see the story.

Maybe MSNBC will pick him up.

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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: Today at 02:14:30 PM »
What you do is refer to the low mortality rate and say that is acceptable risk.  But you wont' say that about vaccine reactions.

  When did I say that?  Playing projection again?

  I deal in risk and reality.   A disease with a 99.95% survivability rate in an ultra low risk, and as far as we know that number is more than likely even higher.   

 People have comorbidities, that's a fact.   If someone is already dying from another problem, tying the death to covid serves only to inflate the covid number while ignoring why they are dying in the first place.

 So in my instance, I'm in excellent health.  I've had covid, so I have natural immunity.   The vaccines offer me nothing except for a chance to develop a debilitating illness that may shorten my life, if not end it.

 The vaccines have been injuring people, and killing some.  That's a fact.


Obviously it would be absurd to paint you as a liberal.  I didn't do that.  I said you sound like one when you use the same tactic.
...

 I didn't say your were a pansy, I only said you act like one.  ::)

See!  You claim the survivability (with present numbers) are ~99.95%.  From the Thahn Hoa statistics, the survival rate of the vaccine is 100%.

 The article cited 4 deaths.   Yo keep ignoring that.

That's because there is NO right answer.  Just like there is NO right number for airplane fatalities or car crashes.

 Not even close.

But I do agree with you whole heartedly regarding vaccine mandates.  Getting the vaccine (or not) should be a personal choice.  I deemed that the slight chance of getting COVID at my age, and with my medical history, getting the vaccine was the right choice.  I can't make that decision for you.

Thank you.

In that scenario, I would be even more incentivized to get the vaccine.I'm still thinking about that one.

 Your choice.

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What a piece of shit this appointee is.




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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: Today at 10:58:33 AM »
Why don't you ask those questions when deaths and severe reactions are reported from COVID?  Instead, you show that COVID has low mortality rates and high survivability rates.  What's the difference?

  I have.  I've questioned the validity of supposed claims of death by covid when in fact it was died with covid.

You sound like a liberal;  If it just saves ONE LIFE, it is worth it. 

 You just lost the argument by making such an absurd statement.

Ban vaccines to save one life from reaction yet ignore the thousands that die from the disease.

 If we had actual reliable numbers and data of covid injuries and deaths, we could make better decisions.  We don't because we have groups such as government, pharmaceuticals and ideologues that are using this virus as a means to achieve an end, that has nothing to do with healthcare.

 We do know that the survivability (with present numbers) are overall in the range of 99.95%.   If the numbers were more accurate that percentage would increase.

Just about everyone on both sides of the vaccine debate are just a bunch of political hypocrites with an agenda and are out to prove a point without regard to facts.

  You've yet to provide any facts, and you are engaging in the same as what you are accusing me of.

  I asked a simple question, in which you won't answer.   What is the acceptable death rate of the vaccine??  Numbers or percentage?


 Let's look at it this way:   You and your wife live in a community of 100 people.   One person in that community died of covid.

 So your community is ordered to be vaccinated.  1 person dies out of the 99 left.    Are you OK with that?   How about is that person was your wife?    Was it worth it?

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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: Today at 09:59:17 AM »
I didn't skip that part.  They were extraneous bits thrown in to make it look scarier.  The article was about the 120 reactions in Thanh Hoa.  Those deaths were not in Thanh Hoa.

If you want to include all reactions and deaths in other parts of the world, you need to know the number of doses given everywhere.

  So how many deaths are acceptable percentage wise?   How many severe injuries are acceptable?

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Wow. He just couldn’t defend his leftist hate and got called out on it. Good job, Senator Kennedy.

  Problem is we have Senators like Lindsey Graham that will vote for him to appease the DC's.

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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: Today at 08:39:45 AM »
Lets see:
56,700 doses
120 hospitalized = .0021
17 severe reactions = .00029
0 deaths = 0.0...

I can see why they would suspend the vac program pending further research, but I don't think it is sufficient to condemn the vaccine program as a whole.

And is this representative of the vaccine as a whole, or are there local/batch issues as well.  Was the vaccine properly refrigerated and administered?

  And you skipped right over this part

 
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Last week, four workers in Thanh Hoa's Kim Viet Shoe factory died following their Vero Cell Covid-19 vaccination, also due to "overreaction."

   Just four right?   What the hell, it was for the better good, right?   Or is it "Well, they probably died of something else?"

 And let's just skip over this

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Of these, 17 had severe reactions, but their health has stabilized and they continue to be monitored at the hospital, the center said. The cause of their symptoms has yet to be confirmed by Thanh Hoa authorities.

 Severe reactions.  From a vaccine that's supposedly "safe and effective".   Oh, but they stabilized, so let's end the story there, let's not look at or even consider what will happen to them long term.   Outta sight, outta mind.

  The magic elixir the Branch Covidians are pushing injures and kills, this has been established.  It does not stop transmission of the virus, nor does it prevent the inoculated from becoming sick with the virus.  Even with the recent released Pfizer information it showed during trials 1200 deaths and thousands of injuries, but we shouldn't be concerned because we are so panicked over a disease that the majority have a 99.95% of surviving.


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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: Today at 07:53:59 AM »

The suspended batch would be put into storage and could be used later for other groups like adults, Truong added.


What????   Sounds like a lot contaminated with something. Why aren't they trashing it?

  Because the Branch Covidians understand that the magic elixir will kill some of the non believers, and hey, it's for the better good, ya know?

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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: Today at 07:36:57 AM »
Nothing to see here...........move along.........

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/120-children-hospitalized-province-suspends-pfizer-vaccine-batch-4397748.html

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Thanh Hoa has suspended the use of a Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine batch after over 120 students were hospitalized following their inoculation.
Since November 30, the central province has been vaccinating children aged 15-17 with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. However, over 120 of the children were admitted to hospitals after exhibiting symptoms like nausea, high fever or breathing difficulties, the provincial Center for Disease Control (CDC) said Thursday.

Of these, 17 had severe reactions, but their health has stabilized and they continue to be monitored at the hospital, the center said. The cause of their symptoms has yet to be confirmed by Thanh Hoa authorities.

Thanh Hoa CDC director Luong Ngoc Truong said the province has stopped using the current vaccine batch. "We still have other batches, also Pfizer vaccines, so we will continue vaccinating the children," he said.

The suspended batch would be put into storage and could be used later for other groups like adults, Truong added.

Vu Van Chinh, director of the Ha Trung District General Hospital, said side-effects following vaccination was normal, but are more likely to happen in children than adults.

"Those who have reactions or faint need to be separated so no chain reaction occurs," said Chinh.

The Thanh Hoa CDC has distributed around 117,000 Covid-19 vaccine doses to 27 districts and towns. Over 56,700 doses have been administered.

Over the past week, three children have died following their vaccination with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Bac Giang, Hanoi and Binh Phuoc. The cause of death has been determined as "overreaction to the vaccine."

Last week, four workers in Thanh Hoa's Kim Viet Shoe factory died following their Vero Cell Covid-19 vaccination, also due to "overreaction."

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Ok, I was probably wrong.  I am by no means a gun expert, and when it comes to handguns, I am rather ignorant.  Most of my "gun experience" was with hunting guns when I was in my teens.

I do remember when I was a kid, around 10ish, my friends dad took us to a firing range to show us a little about gun safety.  I thought I remembered him firing a really old revolver by "fanning" the hammer.  I probably don't remember this very well but I have always thought he never pulled the trigger.  I probably thought that because he kept emphasizing to NEVER put your finger on the trigger, (unless . . .)  I guess I just remembered it wrong.

https://www.historynet.com/western-movies-created-myth-fanning.htm

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So to fan a single-action revolver, the shooter squeezed the trigger against the back of the trigger guard and held it there in firing position while repeatedly fanning back the hammer into full-cock position with the heel of his other hand. This fanning turned the cylinder and released the hammer to fall and fire a new chamber as rapidly as the shooter’s off hand could repeat this movement.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: December 04, 2021, 06:04:56 AM »
https://thepostmillennial.com/eu-chief-nuremberg-code?s=09

SHOCKING: In the wake of Austria's drastic lockdown of unvaccinated people, EU chief calls for throwing out Nuremberg Code

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Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: December 04, 2021, 06:00:19 AM »
Very interesting read   https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/sciadv.abc0927

Extraordinary curtailment of massive typhus epidemic
in the Warsaw Ghetto


  Here's an interesting part

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The Holocaust (9) refers to the Nazi-German annihilation of some
6 million members of European Jewry during WWII (1939–1945).
It is not widely known that this genocide was triggered in no small
part by alleged public health concerns and Germany’s obsession with
disease and fear of epidemics. More specifically, there was a fanatical
fear of typhus spreading to the German people and its army, given
its previous impact as the cause of 5 million deaths after WWI. This
was the pretense given by the Germans for the relocation of Jewish
victims en masse into isolated closed ghettos and camps in wartime
Europe (10–14). However, the same fear of epidemics was also a
pretext used by the Germans as justification to liquidate ghettos,
including their residents.
Initially, the Germans did not even want to establish ghettos because
these were considered to be nourishing ground for infections
(10, 12). However, the German discourse on hygiene was very much
influenced by the anti-Semitic idea of Jews being notorious bearers
of diseases. In the Nazis’ ideology, this evolved into Jews being the
actual disease, so epidemics were to be naturally expected and dealt
with, which in the end meant annihilating the Jews (13). Of course,
hygiene was only one pretext driving Nazi anti-Semitism; but it played
an important part in propaganda efforts to justify anti-Jewish hatred
and politics in this period before the industrial killings.
By October 1941, when an epidemic was raging in the Warsaw
Ghetto, Jost Walbaum, the Chief Health Officer of the General Government
(Occupied Poland) infamously made the accusation: “The
Jews are overwhelmingly the carriers and disseminators of typhus
infection. … There are only two ways [to solve this]. We sentence
the Jews in the ghetto to death by hunger or we shoot them…. We
have one and only one responsibility, that the German people are
not infected and endangered by these parasites. For that, any means
must be right” (14). These words were followed by applause and clapping
from 100 attendees, mostly medical doctors. Previous to this,
SS General Heydrich, the main architect of the Final Solution, specifically
requested that the chief SS physician initiate an epidemic in
Warsaw Ghetto to exterminate the Jews (15). In addition, the highest
German administrative authority in the General Government, Governor
General Hans Frank, alleged in 1943 that the genocidal murder
of 3 million Jews in Poland “was unavoidable for reasons of public
health” (16, 17). These are obvious cases of disease being used as a
weapon of war and pretexts for genocide. Today, more than ever,
society needs to grasp how a virus or bacterium can create utter havoc,
dragging humankind to this terminal point of evil.


   Take a look around us right now, and especially in Austria and Germany.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: December 03, 2021, 11:10:58 AM »
Zero Hedge (or ZeroHedge) is a far-right[12] libertarian[17] financial blog,[13][14] presenting staff-written articles and aggregating news and opinions from external sources.[18] Zero Hedge, per its motto,[a] is bearish in its investment outlook and analysis, often deriving from its adherence to the Austrian School of economics and credit cycles.[22] While often labeled as a financial permabear,[23][24] Zero Hedge has also been described as a source of "cutting-edge news, rumors and gossip in the financial industry".[25]

Over time, Zero Hedge expanded into non-financial analysis,[c] including conspiracy theories and fringe rhetoric[27] associated with the US radical right,[14][28] the alt-right,[29][30][31] and a pro-Russian bias.[1][32][33][34] Zero Hedge's non-financial commentary has led to a number of site bans by various global social media platforms, although its 2019 Facebook ban[35][36] and 2020 Twitter ban were later reversed.[14][37]

Zero Hedge in-house content is posted under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden"; the founder and main editor was identified as Daniel Ivandjiiski.[26]


The Wikipedia entry concerning Zero Hedge.


https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/

   Who is Larry Sanger you ask?  Why, he's the Co-founder of Wikipedia, and also holds a PhD in Philosophy.

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