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Spin Zone / Re: Man sets himself on fire outside Trump trial
« on: Today at 01:08:23 PM »
Anyone bring the marshmallows?

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Spin Zone / Nixon’s parting words
« on: Today at 11:14:20 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Your Government Hates You
« on: Today at 10:54:07 AM »
He’s absolutely correct in that there will be no deportation of the invaders.   The rubicon has been crossed and there is no going back.  He’s also correct about the republicans not having the will to do anything. 

 The democrat communist and the RINOs are already talking about mass amnesty and providing citizenship for these criminals.  That will happen. 

The democrats need low information types as a base.  They definitely do not want anyone who uses critical thought or independent thought, or anyone who is hyper informed. 

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: Today at 04:01:31 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: Today at 03:58:06 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 18, 2024, 07:53:04 PM »
That's your incorrect assumption. Zelensky was just an actor who got elected to his position years after the Russians had occupied parts of Ukraine. He proposed constitutional changes to limit corruption. To date he appears to have followed the Ukraine constitution better than Biden has the US constitution. Ukrainians wanted to join the EU (NATO entry already denied,) and not be tied to the Russian economic sphere, and were pursuing that goal. You can claim Ukraine is or was a dictatorship to your heart's content, that don't make it so.

Now suppose Ukraine is as you claim - there were the security guarantees to which the US was a party. US makes agreements with dictatorships all the time. If you can't trust a man, or a country, to keep their word would you trust them in the future?I agree that neocons dish out stupid shit, but I've seen contrary evidence for Ukraine accountability and no mention of regime change in the case of Ukraine. (As to Zelensky-involved money laundering - if the Kremlin intelligence agencies had dirt on Zelensky don't you think they'd publicize it via their proxies? None of the articles you've linked to in the past indicated any enrichment of Zelensky. Other corruption, yes, but becoming less as best I can tell.)I'm a pragmatic anarchist. My use of "anarchy" just means I'd as soon live without organized thuggery (government) while "pragmatic" means I have to settle for adapting to conditions of reality and act as freely as I can. I vote libertarian as a small sop to that end, though it seems a futile effort. Pragmatically I try to keep up on world events because they may affect me. What I see in this case is the die is cast, and that if Putin wins Ukraine because the US stops giving aid, his belief that he need only outlast the West will have been confirmed. The Chinese will learn the same lesson even if Putin doesn't take Ukraine - it knows that it has a chance to dominate the Pacific. Lots of ways such results are bad for me and I think to you too. I cannot see any long term good outcome of suddenly stopping US aid to Ukraine.

  So where will the troops come from to defend Ukraine?

  Why does the Biden Regime refuse accountability for money sent to Ukraine?  What is there to hide?

  Please justify the US borrowing billions to "give" to Ukraine while asking the taxpayer to repay principal and interest on the borrowed money.

  Please justify giving this money to Ukraine while the US border is open and Americans go homeless and hungry, not to mention a crumbling US infrastructure.

  Please justify the US depleting arms stockpiles to Ukraine. while admitting thousands upon thousands of single military aged invaders into the US.

  Why is it so important that the Biden Regime wants Israel to ceasefire with Hamas, yet this same regime has hindered any ceasefire talks between Russia and Ukraine.

  You say Ukraine is not a dictatorship, yet Zelenskyy has cancelled elections, shut down media critical of him, closed churches, outlawed opposition political parties, has jailed political opposition and conscripts men into his military by dragging them out of their houses and businesses against their will.    Yep, seems he sure loves democracy  ::)

 

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 18, 2024, 02:12:09 PM »
We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We’ve learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.
Ronald Reagan, (6 JUNE 1984)

[Edit to add: I am not a Republican, but the above quote indicates that Lucifer isn't one either.]

 Nope, I’m a conservative.   You obviously don’t know the difference. 

 Reagan didn’t write that in defense of a dictatorial country.  That’s another part of this you don’t get. 

 The neocons have pushed this regime change garbage around the world, and not once has it worked out.  And now we have a government using a third world country being ruled by a petty dictator as a huge money laundering operation, and the US borrowing billions to give to them with zero accountability, and handing the tax payers the bill for the principal and interest.   

 You recently posted a thread showing how the debt service on borrowed money is out of control, yet here you are wearing your Ukraine lapel pin cheering more billions to be given to them. 

 Yes, I’m a conservative and damn proud of it. But the typical liberal will hide behind such things as “moderate” or even call themselves a “libertarian”.  But the liberal always comes out. 

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 18, 2024, 07:43:34 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Your Government Hates You
« on: April 18, 2024, 06:43:47 AM »
I like him a lot, but I do think he'd be swallowed up by the swamp.

  He made the same mistake Speaker Johnson did, he tried to make friends and allies with the UniParty.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: April 18, 2024, 05:43:07 AM »

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Spin Zone / Your Government Hates You
« on: April 17, 2024, 04:33:34 PM »

  They've worked hard to let us know how bad they despise the citizen.  Unending CR's, open borders, two tiered justice system.   Elected officials that openly defy the will of their constituents. Elected officials that are using insider information to enrichen themselves, while using the justice system to prosecute citizens who attempt to do the same thing.

  The so called republican Speaker is going to push through a Saturday night vote on more money for the Ukraine dictator.  Of course expect these bills to be pork laden as well.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/04/17/mike-johnson-triples-down-on-mortgaging-american-future-to-pay-off-ukrainian-leader-volodymyr-zelensky/

 

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Spin Zone / Re: Mayokas Charges Dismissed…..
« on: April 17, 2024, 02:54:46 PM »
I’m shocked!

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Spin Zone / Re: The Pathetic State of the Republican Party
« on: April 17, 2024, 07:01:00 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: April 17, 2024, 06:49:57 AM »

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