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Spin Zone / Re: More mainstreamers changing tune
« on: November 03, 2016, 08:22:40 AM »Watch the MSM call Florida for Hillary within seconds of polls closing to suppress voter enthusiasm in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.
Yep.
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Watch the MSM call Florida for Hillary within seconds of polls closing to suppress voter enthusiasm in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.
1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.
2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.
3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.
4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.
5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.
Maybe Jeff's "best case" 269-269 scenario will happen.
You agree then that at best the alleged quotes contribute nothing?
That makes it possible to claim Clinton said all sorts of things under the guise of plausibility.
Why is that sort of bogus attack even being done when there is supportable material against her that is actually more damning? Bogus attacks water down the damning material.
Since Clinton kept her speeches secret (except from excerpts from wikileaks) that's a bit hard to do. And the people that heard those speeches aren't talking either.
Since Clinton kept her speeches secret (except from excerpts from wikileaks) that's a bit hard to do.
Feel free, then, to post reasonably credible references that support the alleged quotes from Clinton.
And the people that heard those speeches aren't talking either.
So there isn't the smallest shred of evidence that Hillary ever uttered that quote! Amazing what people will believe.
Do appreciate you acknowledging that spin and deception are party-blind! There is lot's of it out there.
Since Clinton kept her speeches secret (except from excerpts from wikileaks) that's a bit hard to do. And the people that heard those speeches aren't talking either.
Feel free, then, to post reasonably credible references that support the alleged quotes from Clinton.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinton_foundation_report_public_2014.pdf
Take a look at the Tax filing on page 28. Salaries alone account for 19.6% of revenues.
Which, of course is completely untrue.
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680
While the Clinton Foundation has some serious issues as far as fundraising and access, as a charity, they do a pretty good job.
Unlike many other aid groups, the Clinton Foundation files multiple IRS 990 tax forms for its various initiatives. In some years, the foundation has filed three 990 forms. In others, it has filed only two.
"The Clinton Foundation has multiple legal entities, and then also multiple disparate programs, which makes it impossible for us to rate in the actual format that we do ratings today," said Thatcher.
In order to rate it, Charity Navigator needs the Clinton Foundation to complete a form that includes all its operations, which is different than the combined financial materials it currently provides on its website.
Shalala and Thatcher then discussed how the Foundation could get a Charity Navigator rating. "There was an eagerness," said Thatcher.
Thatcher has provided the Clinton Foundation with Charity Navigator's special consolidated form. Thatcher says if the Clinton Foundation provides him with 4 years worth of information in that format, his analysts will be able to evaluate the information and potentially assign a rating.
Whether a Charity Navigator rating is significant is an open question. Professor Brian Mittendorf, Professor of Accounting at Ohio State University and an expert in philanthropy, puts it this way:
"A Charity Navigator rating would be something that supporters and/or critics would fixate on to support their pre-existing views of the organization or its founders, but wouldn't really provide new information."
Witmo, the Clinton Foundation is currently under intensive investigation by the FBI. But I'm sure it has spread just enough charity in the world to provide good cover.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/10/30/former-fbi-asst-director-fbi-has-intensive-ongoing-investigation-into-the-clinton-foundation/
I wrote that Comey had no idea what the emails on Wiener's computer might reveal because Comey said he didn't know what was on the computer. When he wrote the letter reopening the investigation the FBI had yet to get a search warrant for the computer for HRC related emails. Lucifer opines that the FBI knows more than they're revealing, well if Comey did know more when he made his initial statements, the FBI was snooping around without a search warrant which I don't think they would do knowing that anything they found unrelated to the sex investigation of 'Wiener would be suppressed by a judge.
I may not be thrilled with HRC as President but I have to take her over Donald Trump who has absolutely no clue on anything other than ensuring Donald Trump is taken care of first and foremost. Yes, HRC is not shy about making money for herself but her grasp of everything a President has to master is head and shoulders above Donald Trump. She may be the first woman President but I'm afraid that should DT be elected, he would be the last President of either sex due to his incompetence. It's a survival thing with me. I feel we can survive HRC but I have serious doubts we could survive DT. Maybe in four years the Republican Party might get their act together and look towards uniting this country instead of nominating a clown like Donald Trump.
If the FBI finds the missing emails and that Abedin didn't turn over all devices, there should be some pretty serious charges. But given how the press conference went in July, I'm not holding my breath.
I saw that this morning. Hillary is out there trying to divert attention away from her investigation and onto Trump's alleged Russian ties. The FBI came out and said they don't exist, at least not how Hillary was hoping.
You accuse me of knowing more about this investigation than has been released and yet you boldly speculate about whatever is on Wiener's laptop being evidence of HRC wrongdoing. Yeah, right, I'm the one making stuff up. Comey stated in his letter reopening the investigation that the FBI did not know what the emails on the computer concerned, who wrote them, or who received them. Weiner is being investigated for sex crimes and has nothing to do with HRC and yet he thought it necessary to reopen the HRC investigation less than two weeks from the election and announce it before even getting a warrant to read the emails. Whatever happened to "I can't comment on any investigation" which was the standard comment law enforcement officials used to make. Don't you understand how dangerous it is to innocent people when law enforcement blabs about someone being investigated? You've already tried HRC and found her guilty so any protections don't apply to her I suppose. You know what's on the computer. They (FBI) should STFU, do their job, and if the prosecutor sees evidence uncovered of wrong doing, indite that person. This is BS--We don't know if there's anything on this Wiener computer relevant to HRC, but we're announcing we're reopening the investigation--a pure an utter abuse of power and prejudicial to the election.
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