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Spin Zone / Re: Newt's Editorial - Election
« on: December 25, 2020, 01:52:06 PM »
If it were blatant, it wouldn't be ignorable. Heck, if it were factual, it wouldn't be ignorable. 

Do you realize yet that is your core problem - you are unable to present unignorable facts.  That isn't because the other side is gaslighting you, it's because you don't have facts.

 I've looked at the evidence so far, and it's overwhelming.   However, your side keeps saying "no evidence" to avoid looking at it because they know they cannot make an argument against it.   This has been shown several times during legislative hearings.

 No explanation of vote dumps, no explanation of dead people voting, no explanation of hundreds of people voting using the same address of vacant lots, no explanation of a video showing poll workers pulling ballots out from under a table and counting them while no witnesses were present, no explanation of the forensic Atrim County report, and no explanation of how thousands of signed and sworn affidavits to election fraud shouldn't be looked into.

 Again, Biden may go into the WH with the darkest cloud of any President in history because he refuses any transparency.   If he actual thought and believed he won this election he would welcome to prove to the American people just how wrong the other side is.   His actions so far tell the story.

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Spin Zone / Re: Newt's Editorial - Election
« on: December 25, 2020, 01:28:11 PM »
It's not a matter of what I believe or not.  It's matter of law and the Constitution.  There's no Amendment in the Constitution that says "if one side believes the election was unfair, here is what you do."  I can not support an emotional plea to set aside an election just on a belief that it is flawed.

 The cornerstone of our republic is free and fair elections.  That process is in serious doubt right now, and threatens our republic.  One side could be transparent and be willing to provide proof that there was no fraud, but they refuse.   They use legal procedure jujitsu to avoid looking at evidence, they deny subpoenas to allow a forensic investigation, they deny allowing a transparent ballot signature match and shrug their shoulders when shown how dead people voted in their election, or how 100's of people used a vacant lot address to register to vote and cast votes.

 
We are not a banana republic, we do not make it up to suit our wants.

 By ignoring the blatant in your face fraud and refusing to consider the evidence, this election farce will indeed turn us into a banana republic.

 As far as "we do not make it up to suit our wants", this is exactly what the left has been doing for the past 4 years.   

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 25, 2020, 11:37:52 AM »
https://mclaughlinonline.com/2020/12/15/newsmax-article-mclaughlin-poll-mclaughlin-poll-majority-see-vote-fraud-as-national-problem/

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There is one stunning result in the entire poll: Americans believe there was a serious vote fraud problem in the last election.

Although Election Day is over a month ago, when we asked — “Do you believe there was election and voter fraud in the presidential election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump back in November?” — the plurality of voters, 46%, said yes, with only 45% saying no.

Among American voters the majority is not convinced that voter fraud did not occur in their Presidential election. It is important to note that the poll model reflects the national popular vote of 51% Biden, 47% Trump.

It is concerning that in this poll where a majority of voted for Biden, they still can’t say it was an honest election.

As our presidential electors went this week to cast their votes, almost half the voters said there was clear election and voter fraud.

Since Election Day, and despite media spin the election fraud story is a big nothing, belief among voters of serious vote fraud has grown.

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 25, 2020, 10:52:07 AM »
They can prove it by releasing the dominion machines for forensic examination but they won’t. The one instance they did they had already deleted the logs that proved fraud which in itself is strong evidence they had something to hide. Stop believing social media fact checkers.

 Under the law, destroying evidence is an admission of guilt.

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Spin Zone / Re: Newt's Editorial - Election
« on: December 25, 2020, 10:51:18 AM »
#NotYourPresident.

Go for it.  They were idiots, but you're spot on.   ::)

 Trump won an election in 2016 that the leftist told us was stolen with the help of Russia.  They proceeded to spend 4 years, millions of taxpayer dollars, multiple investigations only to uncover zero evidence of election fraud on behalf of President Trump.

 Now we have an election that has mathematical impossibilities, thousands of sworn affidavits, forensic examinations, records of dead people voting, records of 100's of people using the same address to vote, records of underage votes, records of non residents voting and ballots with no traceability, but somehow this election was "clean" and the will of the people.

 And we should do the gentlemanly thing by allowing our election system to be corrupted?

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 25, 2020, 10:45:21 AM »
This is the big failure.   A (decreasing) number of Republicans are asserting that the election was stolen, then demanding that facts be presented to prove it isn't.  No amount of facts can prove a negative.

Of course, there is still have no amount of facts, so have at it.

And I can point to several sources that say increasing numbers of citizens (both D and R) are suspicious of election fraud.  Plus there are a growing number in congress that are willing to object on January 6th.

 Also, the leftist refuse to address the evidence.  If they were so confident that this is nonsense and easily disprovable, then why not disprove it?   Also, if Biden gets inaugurated, he is going into the WH with a horrible dark cloud hanging over him where half the country views him as a fraud.   Yet we see no transparency whatsoever from him or his camp.

 Finally, why does these states so adamantly refuse to allow the voting machines to be analyzed by forensic techs?   Wouldn't that put to bed any lingering doubts over the machines?  Especially since the few machines that were analyzed have already been found to be corrupted?   And we are still waiting on anyone from the left to explain the massive vote dumps in the middle of the night.   Again, experts in the field have stated their findings on the vote dumps, but the left can't answer intelligently why they happened.   Nor can anyone from the left explain why spoiled ballot rejection has dropped to an historic low.

 For a group who keeps claiming no election fraud took place they sure are fighting to keep anyone from proving them right.

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Spin Zone / Re: Communism
« on: December 25, 2020, 10:34:02 AM »
The points in the OP are all the claims of Cleon Skousen, an anti-communist conservative. He never indicates the source of his claims, so they must be treated as his personal opinions of communists objectives until shown otherwise.

For example, free trade is a libertarian objective and while it might be argued  whether it should be done with people living in less free countries (by whatever measure of freedom) the libertarian philosophy comes by that goal quite differently.

Likewise, outlawing the communist party requires ignoring or violating the first amendment’s protections of free speech and freedom of association. Ditto for his claims about obscenity and pornography - these are his personal beliefs. Promotion of these does indeed undermine authorities who claim to define these terms, but fuck, who here thinks they are supporting communism when they swear or look at naughty pictures?

 It's interesting to note these claims were made in 1963, and to look at current events and how much of it has evolved.

 Plus, there is a lot of information on the objectives of communism and implementation, which closely mirror the objectives in the OP.

 Bottom line is that it is here, on our front door step.

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Spin Zone / Re: Communism
« on: December 25, 2020, 08:32:42 AM »
That's also whys Secularism is being promoted so much and religion, actually Christianity, is being demonized.  I am not a religious person, but if people believe in God and a positive set of conduct, they don't need GOVERNMENT as much.  Progressives worship government.  Just look  at how obsessed they are with this Virus scam, masks, lock downs, etc.  They are allowing government and corporations to destroy their lives and society in many ways.

A few days ago, I was taking a walk in a neighborhood close to me and one house had a Black Lives Matter flag right in the middle of their outdoor Christmas display.  Now they are politicizing Christmas.  They probably drive a Tesla and I guarantee they voted for Biden.  This was in a neighborhood of homes $500K and up.

 Look at their worship of Pope Tony and the Branch Covidians.

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Spin Zone / Communism
« on: December 25, 2020, 06:36:14 AM »
It's at our door now.

Please read the following that was entered into the Congressional Record in 1963, and see what is going on today.

https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/watchwomanonthewall/2011/04/the-45-communist-goals-as-read-into-the-congressional-record-1963.html

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CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia* access to the U.S. Patent Office.     (*exchange "Russia" with "China")
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.”
Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court

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Spin Zone / Re: Big Mike takes Barack kayaking
« on: December 25, 2020, 05:45:26 AM »
It's unreal how the leftist and their propaganda media hold this guy out as such a beautiful and graceful former First Lady.


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Trump isn’t perfect. One of his mistakes was to listen to Fauci. All of this is beyond disaster. It is beyond evil. It is the progenitor of evil.

Those with continuing income shaming, crushing and oppressing those with small businesses and those who lost jobs. People with continuing income making draconian rules that continue to destroy the lives of others while not following those same rules themselves. Open, arrogant, absolute evil. We have seen it in every totalitarian regime in history and that is what we are seeing now.

Agreed. 

After going through 4 years of liberal lunacy, and this past year of the lefts constant attacks, rioting, burning, looting, murdering, and the absolute evil of how they have perpetuated this fraud pandemic, I’m done and over with them. Their in your face election fraud just pushes it even further, and shows everyone they will stop at nothing for power.   

And now these fuckin’ slime balls demand we bow down and show “unity”.   My message back to them is “fuck you!”   

 For those who don’t read history, the leftist are following the same path as previous totalitarian regimes.  And these leftist have the backing of the CCP.  We are under a full on assault. 

And fuck Pope Tony.   He’s an absolute shitty excuse of a human.

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Pope Tony of the Branch Covidians is now the left’s hero.   

Just wait, they are probably busy right now planning their next “pandemic”.   

Pandora’s Box has been opened.

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Spin Zone / Re: Porkalicious!
« on: December 24, 2020, 06:02:11 PM »
This is funny.  The porkulus bill is now stuck in congress, and without Trump signing it, most likely it will die.

The smug congressmen and senators thought they would get a chance to override a veto.   Nice try.

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