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Spin Zone / Re: Time To Call It TREASON
« on: December 08, 2020, 06:22:09 AM »
Isn't that what some of the Trump supporters advocate, i.e., rebel against the state?

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But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence

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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

-Thomas Jefferson


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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 08, 2020, 06:17:29 AM »
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-texas-files-election-lawsuit-against-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court/

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The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court shortly before midnight on Monday challenging the election procedures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on the grounds that they violate the Constitution.

 

Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above.

 

Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.

 

“Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.”

 

“This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.”

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 07, 2020, 05:18:03 PM »
Bold move!  High stakes gamble for a politician. I wonder if a separation of powers question could arise. Can a Senator take off his senate hat to argue as a lawyer and private citizen?  Can’t wait to find out!

 The case involves PA congressional candidates and questions the election laws of PA, so I don't see why Cruz could not argue it.

Here is Levin explaining the lawsuit:

https://twitter.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1335784552745332737

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 07, 2020, 03:55:39 PM »
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Congressman Paul Gosar’s Open Letter to Arizona: Are We Witnessing a Coup d’etat?

by Rep. Paul Gosar

As I write this, I am in our nation’s Capital attending to legislative business, but I remain focused on what is happening in our country regarding our election.

In 2016, then candidate Donald Trump fell victim to a heinous crime that had never before been committed in the history of our country. The outgoing Obama administration weaponized our Department of Justice and FBI to unlawfully spy on their political opponent. They falsified information and crafted a ridiculous narrative around a Russia hoax that would be used as the basis to pursue a sham investigation. That disgraceful investigation became a Sword of Damocles throughout the majority of President Trump’s Presidency.

Before President Trump was even sworn in, Democrat Leftists swore an oath to remove him by any means they could. Official calls to impeach him came before he was even sworn in. At the conclusion of the Russia investigation, they cherry picked a phone call the President had with Ukraine to pursue a farcical impeachment. They failed. They lied about our President every day for four years. Having failed everywhere else, they brazenly engaged in systemic voter fraud and are trying to steal this election. They did it right in front of us with no shame.

For months Joe Biden hid while they carefully planned. The “fact-checkers” became more bold — removing reports and slapping “this claim is disputed” labels on anything that might bruise Joe Biden. For weeks leading up to Election Day, we were told to expect Trump to win big on election night but that in the days that followed, Biden would overtake any lead as mail-in ballots were counted. On election night as votes poured in overwhelmingly for President Trump, Joe Biden told supporters to “Keep the Faith” and “We believe we are on track to win this.” The next morning, we all awoke to see massive, statistically impossible spikes in votes for Joe Biden and almost zero for President Trump. Are we witnessing a coup d’etat?

We will not tolerate this.

As many of you know, I helped organize the very first “Stop the Steal” rally in Arizona right after it became clear that voting patterns emerged that could not occur in the absence of fraud. Patriotic warriors joined together to gather evidence and tell the Left we will not accept a coup and a usurper in the White House.

We all remember when candidate Joe Biden held a rally in downtown Phoenix and precisely zero people attended. Nada. Zilch. It was a clear reflection of the utter lack of popular support in Arizona for Biden. Conversely, President Trump held rallies in Yuma, Bullhead City, Prescott, and several other places and 30,000 people showed up in person on 48 hours notice while millions of others watched online. You could not look out your window without seeing patriots waving flags and declaring their support for President Trump. I travel extensively all over this state. I saw 2 maybe 3 signs for Biden between Yuma and Mohave Counties. Otherwise Arizona was a sea of MAGA 2020.

In short, from the pre-election polls, to Election Day, to voter enthusiasm, and to the extreme turnout for Republicans statewide, where every contested down ballot race was won by Republicans (with the notable exception of Martha McSally), it was apparent that Trump would win, and indeed did win, Arizona. It was not even close.

I attended a legislative hearing on Monday and listened to two expert witnesses familiar with Dominion voting software and voting patterns. They both testified that the Arizona results, particularly in Maricopa County, were altered to take votes from President Trump and give them to Biden. Perhaps one of the more damning testimonies came from Dr. Shiva who presented data showing that based upon demographic distribution of Party affiliations, the only way for Biden to have statistically caught up with Donald Trump was if Democrat votes came in at 130% for Biden and -30% for Trump.

A recent hand count of a random sampling of ballots, ordered by a superior court judge, determined that 3% of the votes in Maricopa County were fraudulently recorded against President Trump and in favor of Biden. Considering that Biden supposedly “won” by .06%, this theft of votes is more than enough to put Arizona in President Trump’s column and restore his lawful and rightful victory.

We can never accept the results of fraud. Our right to vote includes the right to a fair vote count. I will fight to restore the rightful victor, President Trump. Our Constitution, our Republic and our nation demand election integrity. We are not giving up. The President has not conceded and will not concede to a Third World coup d’etat. We have a constitutional republic, not a banana republic.

Please stay strong and pray for our country and the true President of the United States. Be ready to defend the Constitution and the White House.

Paul Anthony Gosar has served as the United States Representative for Arizona’s 4th congressional district since 2013.

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 07, 2020, 02:17:03 PM »
are you taking your cue from peace-loving BLM?

It's a figure of speech  ::)

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 07, 2020, 01:30:37 PM »
Election in Georgia has been certified again for Biden.




It is not likely to change no matter what. The SOS is the guy that made the deal with Dominion for the voting machines. I see it unlikely he would ever admit there was a problem with those machines causing a reversal of the certification.

The citizens of GA must burn it down.  Their elected government is rubbing their noses in the corruption while telling them "tough shit!" and then will expect the same citizens will be back in 2022 to vote for them again.

 The executive branch of GA has gone rogue.  There are remedies to correct this.  The legislature also must step up for their constituents. 

 Next step is the USSC.  If the SC doesn't demand the states follow the constitution, then we are headed to becoming a banana republic.

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Spin Zone / Re: well, we were wrong
« on: December 07, 2020, 11:33:29 AM »
3 Nov has come and gone, and covid-19 hasn't magically become irrelevaant.

Many here on pilotspin predicted that 3 Nov would bring an end to the covid panic.

The panic continues.

Hmmmmmmm..............wonder why?...........

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Spin Zone / Re: Republicans show their true colors once again
« on: December 07, 2020, 06:43:30 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Republicans show their true colors once again
« on: December 07, 2020, 06:42:14 AM »
What do you get if you cross and elephant and a donkey?



 Answer: treason

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Spin Zone / Re: Republicans show their true colors once again
« on: December 07, 2020, 06:40:06 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: What Is The Proper Punishment For Election Stealing?
« on: December 07, 2020, 06:26:18 AM »

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