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Spin Zone / Re: BULLSHIT
« on: April 24, 2017, 03:54:06 PM »
But they're CHILDREN.   Can you imagine the outcry if someone had used a firearm against them?  We are supposed to just let them get away with robbery.  They are ENTITLED as a matter of fact, to be SAFE while they commit their crimes. That's today's PC world.


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“Republican leaders and President Trump don't give a sh-t about the people they were trying to hurt,”

Just one more example of projection.

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I don't think there is a way to achieve this. Our civilizations are always in flux and always seem to peak with excellence then go downhill until they are destroyed and replaced by something else. I don't mean to sound so pessimistic myself, but people are simply too STUPID to do those things.  Seriously, people in general are deeply stupid and cannot understand for example, why minimum wage laws lead to job loss. And they are not getting any smarter, if anything we are getting more and more stupid by the generation.

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Spin Zone / Re: Average temperature
« on: April 24, 2017, 08:47:15 AM »
I'm not saying I agreed with it, I'm just saying how they ruled. They ruled based on the issue at hand.

Oh I understood you didn't agree with it. :)

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That's spelled T r u m p.

T - to
R - ramp
U - up
M - man's
P - prosperity

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Spin Zone / Re: Average temperature
« on: April 24, 2017, 08:13:59 AM »
For the most part, I am safest in my home.  I have locked doors, and windows, a security system, and other things to protect me.  I also have the advantage of knowledge of my environment.  When I leave my home, I am more at risk, even in my vehicle, which if used properly can keep you safer, and even act as a deterrent.  However, when leaving home, we are more at risk.  Do I live in fear, and have paranoia about travelling, or leaving my home?  Not at all.  I often travel without a firearm due to work realities, travelling to other states that don't have reciprocity, airlines, etc.

The Constitution does not limit the right to bear arms to your own home.  Only liberal/progressive courts have done so.     

Exactly, it is not logical.  I think they do it because of emotion - fear of being around someone armed - or the political way to gradually erode our 2nd amendment right.

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How about we find new, and innovative ways to effectively accommodate people on this Earth instead of killing them?  Do you not believe in Human intellect, nor Human inspiration, and innovation?  The problem with the Left is that they believe humans are the entire problem with Earth.

Probably the best way to curb the explosive population growth is to free up economics so all nations prosper. People tend to have fewer children the richer they get.  I think it's got something to do with meaning. Very poor people don't get meaning and purpose from a career, but if you can't do anything else significant, you can always have children.  I didn't come up with this, there is research to support it.  They don't just do it for the welfare checks.

Maybe liberals are working from the wrong end, trying to push abortion and birth control programs for the poor. Maybe they need to support free market enterprise, loosening regulations, etc., everything that brings back small business and upward mobility.

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Spin Zone / Re: Average temperature
« on: April 24, 2017, 07:28:02 AM »
They said nothing about concealed carry. This case is about whether or not citizens should be allowed to carry concealed weapons in public places.

According to this line of thinking I have a right to defend my life inside my own home but when I'm out and about I shall be prey. Never made sense to me.

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Yes, that would be hard to believe.  You can't be serious.

Yes, the poor get a "prebate", which sound like an entitlement, but as you correctly pointed out, EVERYONE gets a prebate.  So how could it be unfair?
And consider that the prebate essentially removes the need for any sort of welfare?  Just think about that for a moment!  Our current entitlement system is so bloated, innefficient and out of control it numbs the mind.  Nobody will be going down the the 7-11 to sell their food stamps or WIC vouchers for half price to buy booze and cigarettes.  They will just buy it with their prebate money and the scammers get none of it (except for the usual wayts that fools find to part with their money).

Right now, many employers pay illegals under the table to avoid payroll taxes.  With the fair tax, there are no more payroll taxes.  Workers get to keep what they are told they are earning.  Most of the incentive to hire illegals evaporates right there by helping to equalize pay.  Illegals don't get the prebate.

As I said earlier, otherwise intelligent people can always come up with some objection to any sort of tax plan.  But I really can't figure out how you can think that this plan would be anywhere near as unfair or cumbersome as the current tax code.  Yeah, the Canadian and European "VAT" are incomprehensible to the point that no one has any idea how much tax they are paying.  Our current tax code is what gives the Federal Government most of it's control over our daily lives and what gives politicians such great power, and which gives the rich, who can afford an army of tax accountants, such leverage.  But that is why it will never happen.  The all powerful politicians and lobbyists for huge companies are afraid of it because it actually does help level the playing field for anyone.

I don't disagree with you and if it were put to a vote I'd probably vote for it.  My concern isn't so much what is proposed, it is more what compromises and changes would be made along the way.  Suppose for example, welfare is NOT stopped?  Now they're getting welfare AND the prebate.  And of course the rate can always be raised, just like income tax. But unlike income tax, there will be no way to shelter from it.   And that would apply to everyone, not just "the rich".  It's supposed to start out at 23 percent, but that's inclusive, it's actually 30% which is pretty high to begin with. For me to be comfortable with it, I'd want a Constitutional Amendment locking the rate.

For that matter, if there is no Constitutional Amendment revoking the income tax, there is nothing stopping the Feds from later on, adding back an income tax on top of the consumption tax.

I guess it's not the Fair Tax plan per se I mistrust, it's the implementation down the road.  People seem to think it offers some sort of protection from the abuses of DC, but that's a fantasy; there is no real protection.  The problem isn't so much our income tax system, as it is how it's been distorted and grown in a malignant way.  I don't see how the Fair Tax would be much more immune to the same thing, in the long run.

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Spin Zone / Re: Fox's Ted Baxter FIRED - Not Fake News
« on: April 23, 2017, 06:27:45 AM »
It's all about how you react to the charges.  Herman ended up bowing to the pressure and the rest is history.  O'Reilly supposedly paid out big dollars which equated to "guilty".  Look at the women that came out of the woodwork on Trump after the Billy Bush audio tape.  He brushed it all off and got elected President.

Yes, Trump did a good job of treating it like the petty distraction it actually was, and putting the focus back on the issues. I think it was a bit of a miscalculation to try that with Trump anyway, when his opponent was Hillary, with her behavior after what Bill did.  It was easy to turn the tables and make it hurt Hillary just as much. 

I personally turned it around on Hillary with my young niece. This was her first presidential election and she was undecided. When the Trump charges came out she was aghast, naively buying the "outrage", and declaring she now wouldn't vote for Trump, but when I educated her on the Clintons' past, I think that was the nail in the coffin for Hillary as far as she was concerned.  I'm pretty sure she went third party, but her vote didn't go to Hillary.  I know I'm not the only person who brought up Bill's dallyings when they tried that shit on Trump.  I think it backfired badly.

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Hence why we need a real "fair tax". 

Right now we have a large portion of the population paying nothing in, but who can vote for those who will continue to keep them from paying while increasing the taxes on those who actually pay.

Everyone needs some skin in the game, even if it's small.

Are you my husband in real life? Mark, is that you?  Because we JUST had this exact discussion at dinner just now....

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And everyone would be taxed.  Right now a huge portion (around 50%) pay no income tax.

Not really.  I used to be for the fair tax too but after I read more about it, I'm not sure anymore.  Those under the "poverty line" would receive checks to offset the tax they paid on food and other essentials of life.  Actually, we'll all get checks to offset what we spent on essentials. At least this is the plan as I read it on Wiki.  This amounts to creating a huge new entitlement distribution and I'm wondering what unforeseen consequences that could have.  I can see the drug addict mom using her check to buy drugs and buying less of the more expensive (because of the added tax) food for her kids. Everyone would pay the tax at the point of purchase, but the effective rate for many would still be zero.

As opposed to Canada's consumption tax. Canada exempts essential food from the GST, but makes the seller responsible for collecting or not, and so they need to keep up with what is essential and what isn't. But that's not simple. Not all foods are essential for life.  Snacks are not for example. But basics, such as raw ingredients sold to households are.  But ingredients sold to a snack maker are not if they are being made into snack foods. Cooking oil is essential if a housewife buys it. It is not if it is used to make Cheeto's.  A meal bought at a restaurant is not essential; it must be considered luxury, and so it is taxed. But the same meal made at home from scratch would be considered exempt when you buy the meat and potatoes to make it.

All of this seems a mind boggling nightmare, as bad or worse than our IRS.  As an auditor I was trying to find out whether the GST charged on a shipment of soybean oil in Canada was legitimate or not, I never could work it out. I realize the proposed Fair Tax would not work that same way, but it got me thinking that nevertheless it could end up just as bad or worse than what we have now - hard as that is to believe.

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Spin Zone / Re: Fox's Ted Baxter FIRED - Not Fake News
« on: April 22, 2017, 10:31:27 AM »
Excellent points. Andrew Wilkow has a phase that he uses to describe this type of environment, which extends well beyond just sexual harassment. He calls it "weaponized outrage" and I think that's a very accurate statement. We've taken any little thing that we don't like and turned it into mass anger and then use that to destroy people.

O'Reilly isn't the only to suffer this but he is one of the bigger profile people to succumb to this most recently. Anyone remember what happened to Herman Cain in the 2012 primaries? Or what Harry Reid said about Mitt Romney?

I was thinking about Herman Cain. And also I was thinking about the more generalized "weaponized outrage" you describe but didn't have that term on the tip of my tongue. 

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Paul, I gave you a "Like" on that one because it's such a well argued and articulated position, not because I specifically agree with everything in there. I wish this site had different types of like/agree/dislike buttons. I'll respond more later, but traveling for the next couple of days.

I thought the same thing except I was wishing there was a "love" button because mere like doesn't express what I felt.

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The last part in that video says it all:  Castro's personal worth was $900,000,000 when he died.  Those who enforce socialism are fucking hypocrites.

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