If you get them young enough sometimes you can fix them. I'm working on my niece and I suspect I'm the reason she doesn't outright claim to be liberal. I'm not inundating her with right wing stuff, that doesn't work because those sources can be just as shrill and biased. I'm encouraging her to go to ALL sources on both sides and to use her own critical thinking skills to sort out truth from fiction. The facts are there but you have to go beyond getting all your news from the facebook feed and mainstream media.
But it's a job, you have to undo 12 years of public school indoctrination and then 4 years of university brainwashing. But if as in the case of my niece, she has not really been interested in politics at all until now, she's a clean slate other than the rhetoric that's been pounded into her. She has not engaged in a lot of deep rationalization yet.
But when they get old, like my brother, they've spent a lifetime building a strong rationalized structure of thought, all based on false foundations, but now set like concrete. I don't hold out any hope I'd ever be able to change him now, even without the wife.
Just like the false foundation of what you said Little Joe. The falsehood that males are somehow keeping females oppressed in this country. There is no wage discrimination. If there were, all employers would hire only women, because they'd be getting a deal. The payment disparity is because women are less productive and a higher risk to hire, because they still quit when they have babies, or take more time off.
I can't speak to how things were before I was born (mid 50s) but in my lifetime I have experienced exactly zero gender discrimination. I had a great career in a male dominated field (engineering). I've always been able to do anything I want, even in male dominated activities, like fly airplanes and shoot guns. I can also do female dominated things like sewing and baking, without the stigma of being an effeminate fruit. I perceive my world and opportunities to be much greater and more free than men's.
I have been able to work full time when I chose, and then quit and live off my husband when I chose. For the price of what? Having to keep the house reasonably clean for him? Cook a dinner most nights? Women call THAT being oppressed? It's NOTHING compared to what men go through daily to provide for us. And lets talk about men. The most dangerous and boring jobs go to males almost exclusively. Garbage pickup. Construction, soldiering in combat. By the way, why on earth women are screaming "sex discrimination" because they aren't allowed to go into combat is beyond me. Be careful what you wish for bitches. We are going to see the day drafting for combat includes women. Thanks a lot. Yeah I was really jealous of those guys registering for the draft during the Vietnam war.
For me, I'm happy to let the big strong men be warriors for me. Although if you're a diesel dyke and wish to have the exact same job as a man, I feel you should as long as you can pass the same physical strength standards. I don't believe in lowering standards just to let in women. But I also don't believe in discrimination so if you are female and can pass the standards, you should be let in.
But such women are not the ones with whom I have a problem. I have a problem with the precious little whiny clueless spoiled brats who demand that standards be adjusted for them. The young females protesting for "women's rights" in America today have reached a level of narcissistic self absorption I thought possible only in the most warped personality disorder, a level of deep ignorance and lack of insight that is beyond belief. A sense of entitlement far worse than any spoiled princess in any fairy tale.
But back to my point, THIS is an example of a false belief my brother apparently holds as a foundation for his liberalism - believing somehow that in America today females are still oppressed. How much does a person have to twist and warp their brain to believe this? How much must you deliberately shut your eyes to reality in front of you to believe like this? People like this actually believe that because Hillary lost the EC she did so because she's female and we are still oppressing women. Are you kidding me? Hillary reached heights of power and influence of which the great majority of males in this country couldn't even dream.
These snowflakes are crying and whining over poor Hillary having been oppressed by not being elected and what do they feel for the LITERALLY poor male without a job who voted for Trump - absolute contempt. If giving women the vote led to this kind of spoiled rotten confused priorities, we never should have done it.
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My niece claims to be independent, voted third party (probably Stein) but everything she "likes" on FB is of the wacko left. I had to unfollow my brother and sister in law because they both kept spamming hate filled leftist crap but I would never unfriend family. You can unfollow without unfriending. My brother and I came close though, this election cycle. He's a 50 year old "snowflake". Ex Marine.... HOW?
? Because he married a liberal Brit I guess. Has to believe like the wife says. At least he's still pro second amendment. That much Marine stayed in him. He and I have agreed to not talk about politics for the sake of family peace. My brother and I cannot communicate through FB. That place is evil. We've gone to texting and occasional phone calls, keeping the subjects entirely "sterile".