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Spin Zone / The Clinton Archipelago
« on: December 21, 2016, 01:18:53 AM »
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Spin Zone / NY Times full page ads for confidential info
« on: December 19, 2016, 09:25:44 PM »
According to this reason.com article http://reason.com/archives/2016/12/19/trump-versus-the-we-bes the New York Times has started advertising for news leeks, and the article suspects the Times is hoping for dirt from the DC bureaucracy since they voted overwhelmingly against Trump. The ad:
https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2016/news-tips/
https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2016/news-tips/
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Spin Zone / Trump's hidden asset: rural -- but not poor -- voters
« on: December 16, 2016, 12:21:42 AM »
What's your credit score like? Interesting statistical correlation:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-hidden-asset-rural-but-not-poor-voters/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-hidden-asset-rural-but-not-poor-voters/
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Spin Zone / Trump takes phone call from Taiwan's president - Washington aghast
« on: December 02, 2016, 10:17:35 PM »
Diplomatic fictions are not to be trifled with, though easy to make fun of.
China's foreign minister, so far, seems to be less aghast than those who prognosticate on China's reaction:
"Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said the call between Taiwan's president and Trump was "just a small trick by Taiwan'' that he believed would not change US policy toward China, according to Hong Kong's Phoenix TV.
"The one-China policy is the cornerstone of the healthy development of China-US relations and we hope this political foundation will not be interfered with or damaged,'' Wang was quoted as saying."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-hopes-Trumps-call-with-Taiwan-leader-wont-damage-ties/articleshow/55766404.cms
Trump noted the shared diplomatic fiction in one his tweets:
"Interesting how the U.S. sells Taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but I should not accept a congratulatory call."
China's foreign minister, so far, seems to be less aghast than those who prognosticate on China's reaction:
"Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said the call between Taiwan's president and Trump was "just a small trick by Taiwan'' that he believed would not change US policy toward China, according to Hong Kong's Phoenix TV.
"The one-China policy is the cornerstone of the healthy development of China-US relations and we hope this political foundation will not be interfered with or damaged,'' Wang was quoted as saying."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-hopes-Trumps-call-with-Taiwan-leader-wont-damage-ties/articleshow/55766404.cms
Trump noted the shared diplomatic fiction in one his tweets:
"Interesting how the U.S. sells Taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but I should not accept a congratulatory call."
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Spin Zone / Ohio State Attacker Was Taking a Class About Microaggressions
« on: December 01, 2016, 04:28:00 PM »
"How awkward."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/01/ohio-state-knife-attacker-abdul-artan-wa
(Comments posted to Reason.com articles make this forum seem downright tame sometimes.)
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/01/ohio-state-knife-attacker-abdul-artan-wa
(Comments posted to Reason.com articles make this forum seem downright tame sometimes.)
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Spin Zone / Sanders: "I’m going to make Mars a progressive planet."
« on: November 13, 2016, 10:34:24 PM »
This happened at the end of an exchange between Bernie Sanders and Susan Page of USA Today:
Q: Is it conceivable you would run for president again?
Sanders: You know, it’s conceivable that I may fly to the moon.
Q: With all respect, it’s not conceivable that you may fly to the moon.
Sanders: If Elon Musk (founder of SpaceX) called me, I could go to Mars. See, you’re wrong. I’m going to make Mars a progressive planet. I’ll be there first, planting the flag. People don’t think big enough!
From:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/13/sanders-backs-trump-protests-questions-electoral-college/93767186/
Q: Is it conceivable you would run for president again?
Sanders: You know, it’s conceivable that I may fly to the moon.
Q: With all respect, it’s not conceivable that you may fly to the moon.
Sanders: If Elon Musk (founder of SpaceX) called me, I could go to Mars. See, you’re wrong. I’m going to make Mars a progressive planet. I’ll be there first, planting the flag. People don’t think big enough!
From:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/13/sanders-backs-trump-protests-questions-electoral-college/93767186/
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Spin Zone / Thousands protesting Trump victory.
« on: November 09, 2016, 09:00:09 PM »
Do they want a do-over under different rules? Sounds like it.
Keep at it till they get the results they expected?
If they weren't going to accept the results, why did we bother with an election and not go straight to a coronation of the queen?
Keep at it till they get the results they expected?
If they weren't going to accept the results, why did we bother with an election and not go straight to a coronation of the queen?
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Spin Zone / Never-Trump Republican Evan McMullin's failure
« on: November 09, 2016, 03:10:35 PM »
Trump still won Utah with 47% of the vote in spite of efforts to deny the state to him by the "Never Trump" Republicans. While 47% is pretty low compared to Romney's 72.6% of 2012 (Obama got 24.7%) Hillary got ~28% this time (~3% more than Obama.)
McMullin did manage an impressive 20% for an unknown late-comer, but would have had to pull another 13.5% from Trump to have won the state.
Actually, the "Never Trump" Republicans seem to have failed not only in Utah but nationally. No doubt because there was no coordinated plan.
And speaking of other "Never Trump" people: Libertarian VP candidate Bill Weld's electioneering efforts on behalf of Clinton seem to have been equally without effect. (Though it may have pushed some votes from the Libertarian ticket to Trump in disgust; it doesn't look like it had the intended effect at all. Sure pissed off a lot of Libertarians who had to hold their noses while voting for their ticket. Weld is likely persona non grata at the Libertarian party now.)
Lastly, I was not at all surprised by the low support for Gary Johnson in Utah - his apparent personal (non-libertarian) opinion that the state may regulate and limit the exercise of religious freedom in one's choice of fiscal transactions and the Libertarian party position on abortion being a state-level matter are both against Mormon beliefs. I was more surprised to read some people thought Mormons held libertarian views or could be persuaded that way.
McMullin did manage an impressive 20% for an unknown late-comer, but would have had to pull another 13.5% from Trump to have won the state.
Actually, the "Never Trump" Republicans seem to have failed not only in Utah but nationally. No doubt because there was no coordinated plan.
And speaking of other "Never Trump" people: Libertarian VP candidate Bill Weld's electioneering efforts on behalf of Clinton seem to have been equally without effect. (Though it may have pushed some votes from the Libertarian ticket to Trump in disgust; it doesn't look like it had the intended effect at all. Sure pissed off a lot of Libertarians who had to hold their noses while voting for their ticket. Weld is likely persona non grata at the Libertarian party now.)
Lastly, I was not at all surprised by the low support for Gary Johnson in Utah - his apparent personal (non-libertarian) opinion that the state may regulate and limit the exercise of religious freedom in one's choice of fiscal transactions and the Libertarian party position on abortion being a state-level matter are both against Mormon beliefs. I was more surprised to read some people thought Mormons held libertarian views or could be persuaded that way.
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Spin Zone / Dixville Notch results are in
« on: November 07, 2016, 11:24:34 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/dixville-notch-results-2016/
Clinton (4), Trump (2), Johnson (1)
Including other nearby venues, the totals are Clinton (25) and Trump (32). Based on the other votes mentioned, I get:
Trump: 32 (49.2%)
Clinton: 25 (38.5%)
Johnson: 4 (6.2%)
Sanders: 3 (4.6%)
Romney: 1 (1.5%)
Has any media outfit called the election yet?
Clinton (4), Trump (2), Johnson (1)
Including other nearby venues, the totals are Clinton (25) and Trump (32). Based on the other votes mentioned, I get:
Trump: 32 (49.2%)
Clinton: 25 (38.5%)
Johnson: 4 (6.2%)
Sanders: 3 (4.6%)
Romney: 1 (1.5%)
Has any media outfit called the election yet?
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Spin Zone / Foreign policy positions, as if they mattered
« on: October 13, 2016, 01:22:59 PM »
Not an Aleppo moment by the Libertarian candidate:
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Spin Zone / Triumph the Insult Comic Dog interviews Gary Johnson
« on: October 11, 2016, 09:30:11 PM »133
Spin Zone / Dilbert creator Scott Adams endorses...
« on: October 10, 2016, 03:09:20 PM »
Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams endorses Clinton!:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states
No, wait, he meant Trump!:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-switched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to
Cancel all that, this week's endorsement is Gary Johnson!:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151552548531/why-i-endorse-gary-johnson-this-week
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states
No, wait, he meant Trump!:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-switched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to
Cancel all that, this week's endorsement is Gary Johnson!:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151552548531/why-i-endorse-gary-johnson-this-week
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Spin Zone / Your 2016 Presidential Vote:
« on: October 09, 2016, 04:02:29 PM »
The poll attempts to list the last names and party affiliation, if any, of the U.S. presidential and vice presidential candidates that are registered in 5 or more states, according to this web site:
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm
I've sorted the options by the last name of the presidential candidates. I've also set the poll to close on, if I did the math right, about election day. Lastly, I've set it so users should be able to change their vote up till that time.
Oh yeah - first post. Hello all!
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm
I've sorted the options by the last name of the presidential candidates. I've also set the poll to close on, if I did the math right, about election day. Lastly, I've set it so users should be able to change their vote up till that time.
Oh yeah - first post. Hello all!