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Spin Zone / Re: Think This Can’t Happen?
« on: May 26, 2020, 02:18:42 PM »
Nice game you're attempting to play, except it isn't working.

 Your premise that yea, it was ordered, but now there are new orders........sorry, those original orders are what we are speaking about.   Again, the government taking control, putting legitimate businesses closed and then allowing other businesses open was WRONG.

 Case in point.  Churches ordered closed.  Yet big box retailer allowed to stay open.  Please explain to everyone here how 500 people attending a worship service is bad, but 500 people at Walmart is OK?  Explain why items are OK to sell at HomeDepot, but not OK to sell at Mom & Pop's Hardware?

 And while the Michigan Governor was allowing a gay nightclub to operate, she was conversely attempting to shut down a barber for daring to make a living.  That's a fact.
I was going off the original march  order, I guess if I was going off more recent ones they have eased up more.  For the church thing their thinking is probably ability to social distance I know WM here limited number of people inside 6 ft stickers etc.
Mom and pop hardware stores are literally in the attached FAQ to the order as allowed... Even paint stores were allowed open.

There is plenty of criticism of the order and similar ones. My pet one was the landscaping ban but the system worked people complained and it got lifted.

From my reading the nightclub and associated retail outlet was never allowed to be open. It was hit with a CnD a few weeks ago which they ignored then the police delivered a 2nd one last week and they finally shut.

I'm all for criticism of shutdown orders and their arbitrary rules but lets not get all "fake news" to borrow the parlance of the day. Complain about barbers not being essential but don't say that "gay clubs are allowed" They received a CnD over a week before that PJ media article highlighted it.

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Spin Zone / Re: Think This Can’t Happen?
« on: May 26, 2020, 10:07:31 AM »
Abortion Clinics were deemed as "essential", but anyone needing a cancer screening, a minor procedure or regular doctor visit?  Nope, all deemed "non-essential".

 Also, in Michigan Whitmer deemed a gay bathouse as essential while forcing other businesses closed.
So reading the old order there's a whole list of procedures and regular visits that were excluded. Cancer being one of them. Scrolling through it seems that only cosmetic procedures were banned. You could even get braces under the order since that was to restore function.  Every section also has a caveat that a doctor can override it if it is to preserve the health and safety of a patient. You could even get cosmetic surgery if it was due to trauma.

That club was shut down last week after ignoring shutdown request.

I hate that im playing devils advocate for such policies but theres plenty of room for criticism without hyperbole.

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Spin Zone / Re: Think This Can’t Happen?
« on: May 25, 2020, 04:19:14 PM »
The senile presumptive presidential nominee seems interested in gretchie whitmer as his running mate.

She is the one that banned ALL church services while leaving gay bathhouses and abortion clinics open.

If falcon thinks that is moving toward betterment, then he needs a new drug test.
I tried finding the bathhouse thing but the only thing I found was them shutting a gay club down for the covid thing. Abortion is a legal medical procedure so I'm not sure why they would shut those down, unless they are shutting down other doctors offices as well.

While courts generally defer to the state on issues of public health if the church service ban stays in place too long I imagine courts would intervene.   So I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing so much as an opportunity for the system to work.  State would likely lose and religious freedom would be further enshrined.

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Spin Zone / Re: Think This Can’t Happen?
« on: May 25, 2020, 10:14:44 AM »
Apathy will not help improve the situation.

Are you looking for anything to get better or are you satisfied with the status quo?
I generally believe things have gotten better since i was born, gun rights massively expanded and  recognized as an individual right, gay marriage came in without the craziness predicted by some, free speech continues to be solidly protected, quality of life continues upward both in monetary terms and access to tech.
If Biden becomes president there will probably be some wins and losses. Look at the bright side privacy protections will probably expand, maybe some of the protectionism will drop off, maybe some pushback on the corporate socialism (or at least picking different winners and losers), democratic nominated judges have typically been better on 4th and 1st amendment issues(outside of my boy scalia).  The FCC might actually do some good. Some consumer protections might expand. There will be some "losses" environmental regs will change likely, there might be an expansion of the push towards social programs but thats parr for the course since the 1910s

There seems to be this undercurrent in politics that both sides believe they are losing when it doesn't seem to be the case. I don't know if its a rally the troops thing or if we just naturally latch on to negative news.

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Spin Zone / Re: Think This Can’t Happen?
« on: May 25, 2020, 12:27:48 AM »
There are times I think you are blinded by your willingness to rationalize anything, and others when I think you are a classic troll.
On a macro level not a whole lot changes. Just running numbers from what we'll call the modern presidency Reagan to present. Looking at many metrics not a whole lot changes. HC cost per capita more or less follows the same trendline. Military spending had a spike in the mid 80s but has more or less leveled out 3-4% of GDP.  Military engagements every 2-3 years that trend goes way back to ww2. Budget deficits  as a percent of gdp run about 3-4% with spikes for the reagan buildup and the 08 depression and a giant spike for covid. Even immigration there wasn't a whole lot of deportations related to illegal immigration till Bush2, spiked under obama, and back down under trump.  Federal taxation rates have remained almost the same for  40 years as a whole about a 1.1% variance, top 2 quintiles likewise. There is a slightly larger variance among the middle quintile peaking with reagan before dropping. GDP per capita outside of 84 and 09 hovers around 4% per annum.  Even real median HH income doesn't follow a party line.

Theres a quote in the Bible from solomon along the lines of "there is nothing new under the sun" while I believe he meant it as a lament I kind of apply it to our system of government. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.  The last 40 years have been remarkably stable. Even when the parties or courts change things semi drastically it generally seems to follow the cultural zeitgeist .

Not to say something crazy can't happen, look at wilson, roosevelt, or some of the corrupt  scandals from the 1800s 1900s but in the end things worked themselves out. Politics today is remarkably stable and slow changing despite what the new national religion  of politics seems to portray.   


So if we get a Biden presidency yes some things will change but the big picture not so much.

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Spin Zone / Re: Think This Can’t Happen?
« on: May 24, 2020, 11:09:40 AM »
Alternatively Biden wins Amy K is vp. Not much really changes. Clinton bush obama and trump and there have been no sweeping cultural economic or spiritual changes brought about by any one party.

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Spin Zone / Re: This is how a leader leads
« on: April 13, 2020, 10:24:52 AM »
So Trump thinks its his decision to open up the states if i read that correctly... Right....
I dont think theres really anything in our federalist system that would allow that.

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Spin Zone / Re: Manufactured recession
« on: August 18, 2019, 03:21:53 PM »
So there are signs of a recession ahead. About due for a downswing anyways. I don't think its some scheme by the libs.... Maybe the housing mkt will crash a bit and i can get some cheap property.

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You’ve said that twice but the article said in several places they were separate “graduation ceremonies.”  That sounds a LOT different than a gay kegger (Stella Artois?) in the College Union.

I guess my understanding is its under student affairs and each student union  is responsible for their own shindig.

They aren't in lieu of the cap and gown commencement ceremony rather some extra stuff put on by student groups you can attend if you feel the need to.

I guess I just don't see much of an issue if a student groups wants to do something for themselves in addition to the main event, the only thing VAT is contributing is hosting.

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Then why host separate graduations in the first place?  Won't that create confusion of which to attend?  All it does is give a free pass to segregate.  It ENCOURAGES segregation.  I guarantee if you go down to VT and view the various graduations you will see self segregation and mostly by the Black Community, whom also demand separate dorms, cafeterias and "safe spaces".
From my reading they aren't separate graduations just get togethers sponsored by student groups. If a student group wishes to sponsor a party im sure the university would accommodate with a reserved space. So if TP or YAF sponsored one the U would accommodate them accordingly.

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So not sure the crying foul is warranted. The events are open to all and any student can register for none or as many as they like. They seem to be put on by student groups as separate celebrations of graduations. Everyone still goes to the same graduation ceremony VT just host these afterparty type get togethers.   /shrug

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IIRC democrats have a higher mean income than republicans so you could potentially be cutting out more republican voters than you intended.

There are many times in my life i've not paid federal income taxes. When In school with a parttime job. The year I switched careers. Doesn't mean I didn't have "skin in the game". Voting should be easy if your of age and a citizen then you get to vote.

The idea of test(financial, cognitive etc) is scary. Why give government that power?

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Spin Zone / Re: Gotta agree with Kissinger
« on: February 15, 2019, 10:35:16 AM »
FYI he didn't say a lot of that.  The transcripts are openly available if you wanna see what he said in the interview.

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Spin Zone / Re: He's done it
« on: February 15, 2019, 10:30:08 AM »
Hopefully it gets slowed/halted/reversed. Calling an emergency because you didn't get your budget isn't exactly setting the best precedent(guess it wasn't one his first two years).  Imagine how many other "emergencies" the side opposite yourself could come up with.

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