I kid you not.

All you have to do to get promoted by the corrupt, communist biden crime syndicate is murder innocent civilians... but only if they support the Rightful President, Donald Trump.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/officer-mike-byrd-who-shot-killed-ashli-babbit/

Yeah, those officers should have just rolled over and allowed the insurrectionists to wreck the Capital and hang Pence.

I just read about the FSB using gullible Americans to further their propaganda. I’m starting to wonder if you’re one of them.

What do y'all think of the mugshot?

He reports his weight at 215 lbs.

  So which is it?   And why did you make a 180 on your opinion? 

I am a scientist, and have deep reservations about untested technology.  However, the vaccines were very thoroughly tested and received the greatest test of all, they were administered to hundreds of millions of people.

And on your comment "all medications have side effects".  Yes, it's documented that the covid vaccines can give the patient myocarditis, among other serious problems.   Yet knowing this, our government was forcing people to take the vaccine against their will. Many people had their livelihoods destroyed over this.  But the pharmaceuticals and the government held immunity from liable. 

It appears being immune to COVID gives you myocarditis whether your immunity comes from a vaccine or a naturally elicited immune reaction.  That said, the vaccine induced myocarditis is very mild and usually clears up within a few days with the patient none the wiser.  COVID itself can induce a very dangerous myocarditis that can easily be lethal and takes weeks to overcome with treatment.

What conspiracy?  We watched people like Fauci tell lie after lie, we watched the government censor and intimidate, and we say medical professionals stripped of their credentials for speaking out.   The pharmaceuticals also were caught lying, which in turn made people hesitant.

Everything that comes out of your gob is a conspiracy theory except the occasional birthday wish.  As far as lies, everything that ever came out of tRump's mouth was that,

Lack of transparency, outright lies and misrepresentations of the government, the media and the pharmaceuticals brought this on.

The government misrepresented nothing, and stopped treatment with the J&J and Astra Zeneca vaccines at the advent of blood clots, and only resumed when the blood clots turned out to occur at a negligible frequency. 

Then explain to us how admitting millions at the border, with no vetting, no medical exams and no requirement for vaccinations is different than forcing citizens to submit to having something injected into their body against their will.

The migrants are a sad and enormously complex reality driven by socioeconomic and climatic factors.  And like it or not they're needed.  We are an entirely two-faced nation about them, they'd not come here if they couldn't get jobs and they can, quite easily.  They do the jobs Americans won't.

We as citizens will be picking up the tab for diseases like TB, leprosy and a whole host of others that were eradicated from our land because of the failures of the Biden Administration.  Yet you are mysteriously silent on that subject.

Prove it.  And I don't want to see any of your fuckwad conspiracy-mongering blogs either.  I would remind you that most cases of both disorders are easily remedied by antibiotics, though antibiotic strains of TB do exist. That said, I've yet to hear of any on our shores.

The title of this thread is "vaccines are inherently unsafe".  I think showing a video that describes the utter destruction of one of the worst human pathogens in history puts the lie to that, #7's insults be damned (I could posit him as an insult-generating AI, but AI's aren't that stupid and can write far better).  You can add Polio to that list as well, it isn't yet gone but it is fairly well contained, at least for now.

Of course, were it up to folks like the ones in this thread these diseases would be rampant, and lots of people would be dying.  It was vaccines that did them in.

So my mom died on July 28th, the Friday of AirVenture. She was with my sister in Bethesda and passed away peacefully after a long illness. She was 89 so lots of things were failing.

Her funeral is tomorrow in Illinois. I never realized how relatively smooth the process could be with someone dying across the country and getting shipped. Still, it’s quite a process.

I think I need another summer vacation.

I am so very sorry for your loss. 

I can't imagine trying to teach a bunch of kids origami. Trying to show them the precise folds to get the figure just right. Do you have some sort of camera / projector so they can see what you're doing?  I tried to teach my niece to make a paper airplane.  It did not turn out well.  She must have been a very bad student   

I carefully pick the models, my success rate is very high.  Also, I make certain there are parents with the very little ones.  One of my favorite classes this year was when a family of four sat down and wanted to do an Origami.  I decided to make a great little bracelet, mom and the kids mad the pieces, which were really simple.  Dad assembled the bracelets.  Everyone had fun, and the kids got a pari of nice origami bracelets.

From the start to today COVID killed roughly 1% of its victims.  Earlier cases were spread among age groups with a skew toward the elderly, but once the treatments got better and vaccines came into play deaths became more skewed toward the elderly.  Still, had no one done nothing we'd have expected 3 million deaths and a third of the nation with lingering side effects.  Moreover, had no one done anything we'd. have crashed the medical system.  Need to give birth?  Hospitals are full of COVID patients?  Broke your hip?  Hospitals are full of COVID patients.

Please don't tell me it never happened because it did, right in my old stomping grounds.  There was a week where you couldn't go to a hospital in Lucas county here in Ohio.  The hospitals were all full of COVID patients.  That was with lockdowns and vaccines.  Imaging how bad it've been without that stuff.

Was the lockdown too much?  Did it go to far?  Perhaps, perhaps not.  We can't see the world where we didn't do any of that, so it's a hard question to address.  Should we have closed schools?  It is true kids don't buy it form COVID (we know that now, we didn't back then) but even so, they are marvelous disease vectors.  While they themselves won't perish, they can transmit the disease to lots of folks who will. 

Again, these are very difficult questions without easy answers. All I can say is had we done nothing the result would have been well nigh disastrous.

That is true one on one in terms of immediate side effects.  What is less understood are the long term, and collective effects.

For example, there is now an epidemic of shingles in the elderly.  The cause may be a combination of people having fewer children, grandparents not living near the children, and the chickenpox vaccine meaning children no longer get chickenpox.  Back in the day grandparents would be exposed to chickenpox the disease in their grandchildren, which acted like a natural booster to their own immunity to the virus, strengthening their system against shingles.  Since the culture changed plus the chickenpox vaccine, we now have a need for the shingles vaccine to protect the elderly.

There is also an epidemic of allergies, depression, ADHD, anxiety and other disorders, the causes of which are not understood, but it could possibly be the effects of giving children dozens of vaccinations, confusing their systems and leading to what I term occult autoimmune attack, like myoencelphalopathy for instance, that seems chronologically connected to this proliferation of vaccines.  No, I am not thinking for certain this is the case.  My point is that it hasn’t been sufficiently studied: the long term effects on the population as a whole.

One obvious one is that we aren’t culling the weaker genes, but that is true of all health interventions including glasses, antibiotics, surgeries, just about any technologically advanced solution to a naturally occurring problem.  Our species is collectively growing weaker, stupider, and more dependent on that same technology as a result.

Thank the Black Death for all the autoimmune disorders we see in our society.  Prior to the Death autoimmune disorders were rare in society, at least they weren't discussed much in ancient texts.  However, to survive a Yersinia infection you needed one hell of an immune system, so most of humanity went through a selection for enchanted immune responses.  Enhanced immune responses came at the expense of autoimmune disorders, which are quite prevalent in our society.

So you're in favor of forcing pregnant women to take Thalidomide?

It was the FDA that headed off that particular clusterfuck, a pretty big feather in their cap.  Like I said, they're pretty careful about what they allow to be used for medications in America. Thalidomide was supposed to ward off morning sickness.  Turns out to be teratogenic for humans.