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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: September 16, 2021, 02:28:35 PM »
I often say that modern politicians are literally just pissing away our legacy of freedom which was so hard won. (pardon the French)
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Spin Zone / Re: Another POA deletion
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:32:16 PM »Don't question the rulers!!!!We’ll see what their response is in a week. I always hope for people to be rational and probably persist in that sort of belief to a fault.
How fuckin' lame. Seems they have embraced cancel culture.
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Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) / Re: 177RG Lake Havasu
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:15:41 PM »
Mine is a 1969 A model. So only 180 hp and carburated. I believe all the RGs were injected. So yes I think he should have had plenty of power short of some type of failure.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another POA deletion
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:12:49 PM »
Thanks for warning Little Joe. I think that sort of name calling is very inappropriate in most cases and so will likely be following my normal policy on unmoderated forums. Which is an immediate block. I just don't have time for it when it devolves to that point.
I agree completely that the most interesting discussions occur when people disagree with the majority. I just think that discussion can be conducted in a civil manner and that really that is the only way that people of differing opinions can meaningfully try and understand one another.
I agree completely that the most interesting discussions occur when people disagree with the majority. I just think that discussion can be conducted in a civil manner and that really that is the only way that people of differing opinions can meaningfully try and understand one another.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another POA deletion
« on: September 16, 2021, 12:51:42 PM »Well I’ll be the first to call you RACIST!!!!
There, we got that out of the way. lol
It might end up going that way, but I appreciate the irony
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Spin Zone / Re: Another POA deletion
« on: September 16, 2021, 12:38:48 PM »
Thanks, I try to keep my posting on public forums respectful and objective.
I try and avoid all name calling and frankly have a simple policy of just blocking all people who start to do so. I have found that they almost never respond to even a gentle reminder that this is a logical fallacy and not really a good idea when you aren't speaking in person to people.
I hope people will find that I may at times have unpopular opinions, but I try and present them in a civil manner, even if logically the points are fairly crisp.
I try and avoid all name calling and frankly have a simple policy of just blocking all people who start to do so. I have found that they almost never respond to even a gentle reminder that this is a logical fallacy and not really a good idea when you aren't speaking in person to people.
I hope people will find that I may at times have unpopular opinions, but I try and present them in a civil manner, even if logically the points are fairly crisp.
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Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) / Re: 177RG Lake Havasu
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:38:56 AM »
As some may know I have a 69 Cardinal fixed gear. I have taken off many times in similar or worse conditions here in the Valley of the Sun. Should have been no problem.
I hadn’t thought much about pilot incapacitation. Interesting idea.
Also maybe some kind of mechanical failure causing the engine to not develop enough power.
Will be interesting to see the NTSB preliminary.
I hadn’t thought much about pilot incapacitation. Interesting idea.
Also maybe some kind of mechanical failure causing the engine to not develop enough power.
Will be interesting to see the NTSB preliminary.
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Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) / Re: 177RG Lake Havasu
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:52:48 AM »
Some more information from that PoA thread for discussion:
Gary Van Dyke, Bullhead City
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/09/cessna-177rg-cardinal-rg-n2085q-fatal.html?m=1
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?ica...56&zoom=15.9&showTrace=2021-09-12&trackLabels
Gary Van Dyke, Bullhead City
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/09/cessna-177rg-cardinal-rg-n2085q-fatal.html?m=1
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?ica...56&zoom=15.9&showTrace=2021-09-12&trackLabels
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Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) / 177RG Lake Havasu
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:43:20 AM »
One of the sub-forums I frequent on PoA is the Aviation Mishaps. So I am brining over information about this recent Cardinal RG crash if people want to discuss it.
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/authorities-investigating-plane-crash-at-lake-havasu-city-airport
"I followed the ADS-B Exchange link. It's a bit confusing because of the way they color it, and it has his landing as well as the takeoff. However, it looks like he used full length for takeoff on runway 14 at KHII at 18:08 local. For reference, KHII is at 783 MSL.
After the last ping on the ground (on the taxiway), the first ping airborne is maybe 1700 feet down the runway but has no altitude or speed data other than that. The next one is 4400 feet down the runway, at 1000 feet baro altitude/700 geometric, vertical speed never exceeded 192 ft/min but was showing as 64 ft/min over the runway.
The baro altitude never went above 1000. Groundspeed never got above 65. A little over 6000 feet down the runway, speed dropped from 65 to 56 in 3 seconds with no corresponding increase in altitude, suggesting something happened there... But speed stayed there so it wasn't a total power loss or anything. About 900 feet from the end of the runway, geometric altitude went up 50 feet and a turn of about 45º to the right occurred.
So, maybe a mechanical issue, disguised by the high DA causing bad performance too, mechanical issue got worse partway down the runway but there was still power, just not enough to go? Who knows. We'll find out in a year. I hope there are some answers then."
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/authorities-investigating-plane-crash-at-lake-havasu-city-airport
"I followed the ADS-B Exchange link. It's a bit confusing because of the way they color it, and it has his landing as well as the takeoff. However, it looks like he used full length for takeoff on runway 14 at KHII at 18:08 local. For reference, KHII is at 783 MSL.
After the last ping on the ground (on the taxiway), the first ping airborne is maybe 1700 feet down the runway but has no altitude or speed data other than that. The next one is 4400 feet down the runway, at 1000 feet baro altitude/700 geometric, vertical speed never exceeded 192 ft/min but was showing as 64 ft/min over the runway.
The baro altitude never went above 1000. Groundspeed never got above 65. A little over 6000 feet down the runway, speed dropped from 65 to 56 in 3 seconds with no corresponding increase in altitude, suggesting something happened there... But speed stayed there so it wasn't a total power loss or anything. About 900 feet from the end of the runway, geometric altitude went up 50 feet and a turn of about 45º to the right occurred.
So, maybe a mechanical issue, disguised by the high DA causing bad performance too, mechanical issue got worse partway down the runway but there was still power, just not enough to go? Who knows. We'll find out in a year. I hope there are some answers then."
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Spin Zone / Re: Another POA deletion
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:08:56 AM »FYI, Peter was recently "ejected" from POA.They are rather upset with me for using the full name of one of the members over there. I have asked the MC for clarification but was apparently given more points and a one week ban for asking!
That should earn him a few points here, although honestly, I'm not sure what his political persuasion is.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another POA deletion
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:07:08 AM »Cool, another U of M physics alumni!Thanks Jim. What year did you graduate? I graduated with a BS Physics from the then IT in 1987.
Welcome to Pilot Spin!
It gets rather ugly here at times, but that just adds to the forum’s charm.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another POA deletion
« on: September 15, 2021, 09:27:50 PM »
Well technically all political subjects, especially those not aviation related, are prohibited in PoA. Agreed about the decreasing quality of moderation by the MC there.