Traditionally, American presidents do not bow to kings. The tradition stems from the American Constitution, which states that all men are created equal.

The uproar about Obama largely stems from his deep bows to Saudi kings. You probably recall a date in 2001 when 19 Saudis attacked the United States horrifically.

The only people expected to bow to a king or queen are subjects of that king or queen.

wait, this is the interweb.  What's with the make nice stuff?

 

Dunno what came over me. Christmas spirit? Wait, I'm sorry, in lieu of "Christms" I really meant Nondescript-and-wholly-non-denominational-festivus-time. 

Lincoln was a criminal who wanted to subdue the South economically so the North would prosper.  He couldn't have cared less about the slaves, and their plight.  Look how long it took him to do the Emancipation Proclamation.  Why wasn't that done day one of the war?

Shhhhhhhhh!    Shhhhhhhhhhhh!   C'mon now!   Lincoln was "great"!   It was all about "slavery" and those terrible white supremacist southerners!

The link provided is a prime example of how a partisan can read whatever they want into a parsed-up quote.

Obama's remarks are simple: he'll give Trump room to govern without direct criticism. But he'll be happy to defend American ideals. This is no more or less than any of us would request. Anyone who has the ability to elevate themselves above blatant partisanship could accept that.

Which American ideals do you think Obama means?  Freedom of Speech?  Sure,  unless a non-profit makes a movie critical of a presidential candidate, in which case Obama felt emboldened to embarrass the Supreme Court, and his party's platform calls for a Constitutional Amendment to silence political speech?  That ideal?

How about the ideal of the right to keep and bear arms?  You know, the one where his party's platform calls for severe gun control measures, including renewal of an "assault weapon" ban?  That ideal? 

Show me a democrat who can elevate themselves above blatant partisanship, and I'll show you a liar.

Jill Stein tweeted:

"Fidel Castro was a symbol of the struggle for justice in the shadow of empire. Presente!"

Jimmy Carter:

"Rosalynn and I share our sympathies with the Castro family and the Cuban people on the death of Fidel Castro. We remember fondly our visits with him in Cuba and his love of his country."

And on and on, on the left. Gag.

So glad our President Elect spoke plainly.

"Today, the world marks the passing of a brutal dictator who oppressed his own people for nearly six decades. Fidel Castro’s legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights.

While Cuba remains a totalitarian island, it is my hope that today marks a move away from the horrors endured for too long, and toward a future in which the wonderful Cuban people finally live in the freedom they so richly deserve.

Though the tragedies, deaths and pain caused by Fidel Castro cannot be erased, our administration will do all it can to ensure the Cuban people can finally begin their journey toward prosperity and liberty. I join the many Cuban Americans who supported me so greatly in the presidential campaign, including the Brigade 2506 Veterans Association that endorsed me, with the hope of one day soon seeing a free Cuba."

I keep waiting for the prog tipping point.

At the moment they seem to be propped up and kept media visible by a bunch of clueless millennials, many of whom did not vote, rioting because they want $15 an hour to pretend they don't like the choice of those who did vote. There is a DNC power vacuum because they put all their eggs in the doomed HRC basket. They are clawing and chewing and twisting over every hire Trump makes. Progressives are wolverines half dead but still hissing and snapping in the steel trap that locks them into a slow and bloody exposure of their lies. They manifest the very thing they are decrying: hate.

The more they rant and lie, and desecrate our naton's flag, and block highways, and destroy property, and plot their attempt to drown out the inauguration, the more Trump voters they create.

How long until this unsustainable gas bubble explodes?

This thread is starting to remind me of POA. 

 Naw.....no one has made a dick comment yet.

 And a mod hasn't jumped in and threatened to close the thread because she disagrees with it.

Discussing and debating the EC seemed reasonable, regardless of which side your opinion falls on.  Why some people have to behave so immaturely with threads like this is disappointing.

You don't want to rationally talk about something, fine.  But grow up a little.

You still wearing your shorts too tight?