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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« Last post by Little Joe on Today at 03:44:25 AM »
Do you ever stop pretending outrage to justify your devotion to the left’s positions???
Do you ever stop to think through the BS you are spouting?
What you just said is that speaking the Truth is the left's position.
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« Last post by Rush on Today at 03:39:18 AM »
Who believes Trump's claim that he could end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours?

Trump speaks in gross exaggeration and hyperbole. He always has. We know to take him seriously, not literally. His enemies take him literally, not seriously.
 
I predict that what he will do is first day in office put a halt to sending military equipment and money to Ukraine, and offer negotiating assistance.  That can be done in one day. The rest will subsequently wind down, unless Europe steps up and starts funding Ukraine which I doubt will happen.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Debt Ceiling
« Last post by Little Joe on Today at 03:38:13 AM »
Nay  FL      R    Rubio, Marco
Nay  FL      R    Scott, Rick
The only reason I wouldn't call those "NO" votes as idiotic is because they knew when they voted that the agreement would not be voted down.

Under normal circumstances, I would have voted NO too because there is little in the compromise that I like.

On the other hand, defeating the bill, with the real risk of even partial default of US debt is unacceptable.  There should be no such thing as an "after the fact" ceiling and even with that fake ceiling, we should never allow ourselves to get to that point.

Example:  I want to buy a house, but I know that the PITI will add up to more than I will have and I won't be able to pay?
If I were the US, I would just buy the house, then either NOT pay the mortgage, OR borrow more money to make the payment that I already can't afford.
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Spin Zone / Re: Vivek Ramaswamy
« Last post by Rush on Today at 03:26:56 AM »
Well, yeah. But I have to find some excuse to apply the useless tidbits I've run across over the years.

I can relate. 
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« Last post by Number7 on Today at 03:03:22 AM »
Trump’s campaign said in a tweet that DeSantis voted for Trump nominee Christopher Wray. An outright lie designed to fool the dumbest supporters.

DeSantis was never a senator, and could not vote on any nominees.

Is this the man you want as POTUS?  A man who throws out such careless lies? 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-attacks-desantis-supporting-trump-nominee-claims-voted-senate-confirmed-position

Do you ever stop pretending outrage to justify your devotion to the left’s positions???
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« Last post by nddons on June 03, 2023, 10:52:04 PM »
If that's a reason not to support Trump, it assumes DeSantis won't lose vs Biden in the same way.

The Trump endorsed candidates that lost was because they were abandoned by the Uniparty RINOs.  Even so many of his endorsed candidates did win.

How many times do I have to say it. Trump is not a conservative.  He's a pragmatist. Sometimes that means working with Dems. He used to be a Democrat, had to work in NYC for goodness sake, and has donated to all sorts of people. As for Harris, he gave her chump change - way before 2016 - which she turned around and donated to a non-profit that advocates for human rights in South America.  Why he did I don't know, it might have been because it was to please his daughter.  Hardly a sign he supports the far left.  Maybe he just gave her money because she's so entertaining.

Funny, according to my paper copy of his campaign promises, he kept, or tried to keep despite opposition, many if not most of them, including significant progress on the wall, if not the physical wall, policies that discouraged illegals to even attempt. As for draining the swamp, easier said than done, but at least he called it out in plain English in a way no politician before him has ever done.

Nobody is perfect and everybody learns from their mistakes. I have no reason to think DeSantis will do any better. And yes I think the Dems will try everything to cheat in either case.
Trump’s campaign said in a tweet that DeSantis voted for Trump nominee Christopher Wray. An outright lie designed to fool the dumbest supporters.

DeSantis was never a senator, and could not vote on any nominees.

Is this the man you want as POTUS?  A man who throws out such careless lies? 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-attacks-desantis-supporting-trump-nominee-claims-voted-senate-confirmed-position
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« Last post by Jim Logajan on June 03, 2023, 10:22:02 PM »
Who believes Trump's claim that he could end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours?
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Spin Zone / Re: Vivek Ramaswamy
« Last post by Lucifer on June 03, 2023, 08:11:08 PM »
Well, yeah. But I have to find some excuse to apply the useless tidbits I've run across over the years.

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Spin Zone / Re: Vivek Ramaswamy
« Last post by Jim Logajan on June 03, 2023, 07:53:58 PM »
Could you be overthinking it?

Well, yeah. But I have to find some excuse to apply the useless tidbits I've run across over the years.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Debt Ceiling
« Last post by Lucifer on June 03, 2023, 06:41:56 PM »
Yep.  Radical idiots on both sides voted no.

Nay  FL      R    Rubio, Marco
Nay  FL      R    Scott, Rick
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