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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: September 06, 2023, 06:39:56 PM »I guess if you’re leaning over someone’s open belly you don’t really want to drop spit into it.Unless the patient is a democrat.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 25, 2023, 04:57:08 AM »Stan. President Trump was re-elected in 2020. It was stolen by massive fraud. A puppet was installed. We’re in a violent takeover. If President Trump goes to jail, all bets are off, and even if he doesn’t, all bets are off. Nothing is normal. I don’t know why you can’t get this. I wish I knew what to do, but it’s NOT to pretend like it’s 1980. We’re on the brink of something very big here.
Um, P.S., Becky I’m not calling you a cow here. Well technically I guess I am.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 25, 2023, 04:04:23 AM »Yes, I would. I’ve said that before. I don’t hate the man, and I was a cheerleader right here on PS. I doubt he can win the general, but I would support him as I did in 2016 when I campaigned for Cruz, and Trump won the nomination.
As for the rest, what are you going to do? Just throw in the towel on the general election and not vote? I just don’t follow your line of argument.
I don’t know what we’re arguing about if we’re all going to support the ultimate R nominee. It’s bad enough they have libs and cons hating each other, blacks and whites, straights and rainbows. Those of us who all agree the common enemy is the “thugocracy” as Becky calls it don’t need to turn against each other too.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 24, 2023, 07:28:36 AM »I’d say most Democrat Americans are uninformed and ignorant of what goes on in communist countries and have no education in history.
In our present school situation, history is barely taught. Well, except for how America was founded using slave labor and how evil the founding fathers were.
To be fair, a large number of American voters are apathetic, both R and D. There is more interest in the Super Bowl, some no talent Hollywood types and now Tik Tok "influencers". Most don't even know anything about their congressmen, they just vote on name recognition.
Social media teaches young and dumb that socialism is "cool", and points out all of the "injustice" of our country. The CCP has done an admirable job of using Tik Tok to take down our youth, and don't forget Mark Zuckerberg is all to willing to help.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 24, 2023, 07:21:55 AM »Speaker McCarthy:Feel free to add....
- Release of the J6 videos - Nope
- Impeach Biden - Nope
- Work for the release of remaining J6 political prisoners - Nope
- Remove the cap on the debt - Yep
He recently cut a back room deal with Chuck Schumer to do a CR to keep the government running past September. However, he didn't bother to inform the congressional republicans. Several are spitting nails (rightfully so) as to why McLoser wants to help FJB and his regime.
It's the GOP way. If McLoser really represented his constituents, he could use this CR as a means to force election reform, cut out wasteful spending and rein in the DOJ/FBI. Instead, he's interested in appeasing his roommates constituents while dinning at the money trough.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 23, 2023, 08:30:45 AM »We should make this a drinking game, but I probably wouldn’t make it to tonight’s debate.Let me summarize tonight's debate for you:
A: You're a Trump poopyhead.
B: No, YOU'RE a Trump poopyhead.
and continue down the line.
Trust me, you're better off drunk.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 16, 2023, 03:48:48 AM »Better than throwing your hands up and just give up, which is what you sound like, Becky.
I won’t quit.
Who’s quitting? Or rather, is it you who are throwing up your hands and quitting? Once again, it seems we have opposite premises from which our respective positions flow.
Becky and I have the premise that the only chance to resist the leftist takeover of our government is to stay with the one person who has a track record of opposing them, and who the system demonstrates it most fears by it’s illegal and desperate attempts to stop him from running. Far from giving up, we are staying the course.
You have the premise that Trump is radioactive, that he is too damaged to win, and even if he did, he is so hated he would be blocked and hamstrung all during his term and not be able to get anything done. Other candidates can also fight the leftist takeover and more effectively than Trump, and they have a better chance of actually winning the election. You think you are the one not quitting because you have enough faith the election system still works well enough that someone not Trump can actually beat Biden.
I think we both agree there is election fraud. You think it will be worse with Trump, you might be right. My position is that I don’t know if it will be worse with Trump. I think either it will be just as bad and no R can win, or if it isn’t as bad as with Trump, that means the left doesn’t fear that candidate which means he or she is not much of a threat to them. So there is no point in supporting a candidate other than Trump.
So because of our starting premises, we each think the other is the one throwing up their hands and quitting. There is no reconciliation here until one of us changes his premise.
And by “his” I don’t mean you. I’m using the generic “mankind” pronoun which means “his or her”. I refuse to cave to woke language perversion.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 15, 2023, 03:11:30 PM »You and others act as if all of these indictments are completely fabricated with zero factual evidence. Some of it is bullshit, some of it may be real, but almost ALL of it has some element of self-inflicted wounds.
The other candidates may not be that stupid.
Using the methodology of the prosecutors and DoJ, each and every candidate can be brought up on charges. That's the fuckin' plan Stan. This is how authoritarian regimes operate.
Right now I am under the opinion DJT will be jailed, and he will not be allowed on several states ballots effectively knocking him out of the race. But whoever is next in line, you can bet your ass they will go after them as well. And the next guy.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 15, 2023, 02:32:00 PM »You and others act as if all of these indictments are completely fabricated with zero factual evidence. Some of it is bullshit, some of it may be real, but almost ALL of it has some element of self-inflicted wounds.
The other candidates may not be that stupid.
He did nothing that all politicians and presidents don’t do and far less. They’re going after him as a witch-hunt, timed to interfere with the 2024 election.
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Spin Zone / Re: Vaccines inherently are unsafe.
« on: August 15, 2023, 07:44:52 AM »I've already quoted the title of this thread, which I will repeat, "Vaccines are inherently unsafe". I've put the lie to that by illustrating the effect of vaccines on a a pair of ancient and dangerous viruses, smallpox and polio. I could easily add diseases like measles, mumps, and whooping cough, which used to routinely kill children but are now far less common in our society (sadly, its vaccine skeptics like you all that keep these ancient scourges alive).
I would submit the COVID vaccines themselves are very, very safe. No, nothing is perfect (one of my best students got sent to the hospital from a COVID vaccine), all medications have side-effects. But the COVID vaccines stopped the pandemic in its tracks and have an admirable safety record (fantasies notwithstanding).
I fear moving forward the pathogens are going to win. Vaccine hesitancy has moved from the fringe into the mainstream, thanks to conspiracy mongering and general scientific illiteracy. I think in the future vaccines will be used less and viral disease will be seen more. The saddest thing is when you go to the hospital for a preventable viral disease I get to pick up part of the tab.
Let’s say you are completely right. Can you not see how obfuscation, censorship, and forced mandates have created mistrust? If vaccine hesitancy is a problem, it might have been created by government and drug companies’ overzealous pursuit of profit and power. The profit motive is obvious. The power motive is the apparent glee some people have in being able to force large numbers of people to do things whether they want to or not.
We have discovered that the federal government was directly involved with censoring free speech about Covid, the vaccines, and treatment options. We have discovered that doctors and pharmacists have been fired for not agreeing with the government’s approved positions - positions not backed up by scientific studies, and that have changed. The FDA now approves ivermectin for Covid yet speech about ivermectin was censored and professionals persecuted when the Feds decided it wasn’t acceptable. They were forcibly suppressing speech without even knowing one way or the other if ivermectin was valid as they now must admit because now they admit maybe it is effective.
You might be totally right, the Covid vaccine might be the SAFEST vaccine ever developed. But the despicable behavior of the experts during this pandemic have killed any credibility they had. They do not deserve our trust, they brought it on themselves. It used to be only the hippie yippies of old who were anti-vax. If half the public is now, you only have yourself to blame, if you support censorship and forced mandates.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: August 14, 2023, 11:59:55 AM »And we have this...
https://resistthemainstream.com/watch-roseanne-barr-raises-eyebrows-with-dark-prediction-about-2024-election/
I don’t agree with her. They won’t cancel the election because they have plans to cheat the win. Besides, the Constitution doesn’t allow indefinite suspension of transfer of power. There are very specific steps to who decides who is President by the end of a president’s term in January and they involve Congress, the states and the Electoral college. The election itself can be suspended but that doesn’t mean the sitting president remains in power. His term ends when it ends.
If they attempt to side step that process to keep Joe in the WH it would be completely illegal and hence an actual coup. They’d probably have to have the military involved because there would be enough armed citizens who would take exception to it. It would touch off a hot civil war. That might be what she means but I don’t think it will happen quite yet.
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Spin Zone / Re: Vaccines inherently are unsafe.
« on: August 01, 2023, 06:48:45 AM »
The overwhelming legal uses of firearms badly dwarf illegal firearm uses
Sauce goose and all that
Sauce goose and all that
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Spin Zone / Re: Vaccines inherently are unsafe.
« on: August 01, 2023, 06:46:30 AM »Polio, whooping cough, measles and other dangerous viruses used to kill and maim tens of thousands of children every year. Now they don't, because of these dangerous vaccines you're all going on about. Yes, vaccines themselves can have side-effects like any other medication. But the rate of vaccine side effects and their severity are badly dwarfed by the damage done by the viruses they protect us from.
You are unaware of what's being discussed.
So back on topic, do you support the government being able to demand or mandate the use of vaccines?