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Spin Zone / Re: Hell Gained A Deserving Resident This Weekend
« on: May 20, 2024, 07:27:28 PM »
Thought I had posted a response to this thread but don't see it now. Odd.
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Late in the Wildwood rally, Mr. Trump addressed abortion. For the record, it is worth quoting. The media covered the s-word but had nothing on the a-word.
“We’ve also gotten abortion out of the federal government and back to the states,” Mr. Trump said, a reference to the Supreme Court’s Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization (2022), which overturned Roe v. Wade.
“[It] is now up to the will of the people in each state,” he said. “Some states will be more conservative and others will be more liberal. . . . Some will have more weeks than others, or many more weeks.”
In a bow to political reality, he described the recent results on abortion ballot measures in two Midwestern states: “If you take a look at Ohio, they just voted a different vote than people thought, much more liberal, you would say, much more, as they would say, progressive. . . . Kansas the same thing. But that’s the way it is, and it’s something that we should cherish.”
Mr. Trump’s position as he described it Saturday is more in sync with what Nikki Haley said during the primaries. If Mr. Trump blunts this issue, a huge crack opens in the Biden “extremist” strategy.
Tucker is the consummate propagandist - he, like Lucifer, can walk right past and otherwise ignore anything that doesn't lead his audience to the beliefs he intends. (The video doesn't support the broad claim in the video's banner image - but great way to rile people up!)
Robert Amsterdam, a lawyer at international law firm Amsterdam & Partners with considerable experience in Russian affairs, told The Independent there was “no question” that US intelligence agencies and the FBI had information about Trump’s financial dealings with Russian entities prior to the 2016 US election.Source: https://archive.ph/20210528204149/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/richard-dearlove-mi6-trump-russia-money-2008-financial-crisis-us-election-a7684341.html
“Trump’s relationship with Russia goes back many, many years. I’m sure the FBI was monitoring it,” he said.
Two parallel investigations into alleged ties between Trump associates and Russia during the 2016 presidential election as well as Russia’s alleged tampering with the election are being conducted in Congress at the moment.
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Mr Amsterdam said one possible explanation is “that the FBI has an informer who was once part of the Trump organisation” and that information was not released in order to protect that source.
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I was 12 in 1971. Damn you people are old!Ok boomer.
https://x.com/LeadingReport/ststatus/1785390375344947340Link to the X post didn't work for me.
This is an economic nightmareIt would be a nightmare if enacted, but it comes from a socialist wish-list that has yet (fortunately) to make much headway. The article posted by Lucifer helpfully linked to the Administration 2025 revenue proposal document:
You mean we were violently agreeing all along?Could be.
Jim called out my "ambiguous" sounding position on the pro-Hamas protests, as if he wants me to come out in full support of the protestors' right to free speech, and I've been holding back just a bit.You replied to my post of that thread and clarified your position - and I agree with it. I got what I sought and wasn't expecting anything else. Otherwise I'd have posted further.
For decades now, the major institutions influencing public opinion (media and education), and more importantly, the development of ideology in our children, have been taken over by neo-Marxist anti-Americans. These protestors are mostly young people, as usual; brains not fully developed, no adult life experience, think they know everything, but have not been exposed to a wide range of ideas.
For years now, ramping up hard recently, these institutions have censored speech, not from these neo-Marxists (aka the left) but from the right and from anything upholding the ideals of our founding fathers (such as the Constitution). Conservative speakers are banned from campus. Mainstream media is now openly just a propaganda arm for the Democrats, and social media we now know is infiltrated by federal agencies controlling who is allowed to speak freely. Political speech is not the only speech censored, we have scientists blacklisted and censored for speaking truthfully about climate change or covid.
There IS NO free speech in America anymore. So now all of a sudden I'm supposed to defend a bunch of brats siding with terrorists and shouting threats at our very nation? Where's the call to support all the above, censored everywhere except X and a few alternative platforms?
The issue is not we need to allow pro-Palestinian speech; that is a subset of speech and openly allowed and supported. Any countering subsets are suppressed, and that is apparently acceptable. We have destroyed free speech in America. Those protests aren't free speech; they are what is allowed to be said by the puppet masters.
Free speech must apply to everyone and all points of view or it isn't free speech at all. What is allowed simply becomes the rantings of a properly brainwashed set of minions.
Then modify it. The intent was not to use them against American civilians; it was never intended to hinder national defense in the event of an invasion.US military are already being used at the border in a number of ways, but can't exercise police powers. The proposed bill would simply have paid for more border police. I can't think of anything more dangerous than granting the military police powers within our borders.
Not legislation. Diplomatic pressure. Good Lord.It's been tried with only limited success. Trump openly used the threat of tariffs to get central American countries to help slow the tide. Biden eventually used some undisclosed "negotiation" to get similar help from the same countries.
Are you seriously trying to blame Trump for this?!I only know what has been claimed:
[...]On January 6, 2021 Lankford was in the middle of a speech opposing the certification of Biden's election when he was interrupted by a staffer asking everyone to evacuate.
Partly. I didn’t even read 25 pages but tried to make it through the first one. Correct me if I’m wrong but I didn’t see where the actual military is deployed along the borders (Canada must be hardened now too).National guards from several states are already being used. Using US Army troops would likely require modifying the Posse Comitatus Act. Using the military to enforce civilian laws ended in abuses that made that Act necessary, so I don't think many people want to go there.
And I didn’t see where they address the organized cooperation between Central American countries and their gangs to support the flow north and through Mexico. They must stop accepting undocumented transits through their countries.I'm not sure how any US legislation can address the internal policies of other countries. Not without getting really really complicated.
But most of all a proposed bill is useless until it is deployed. I have no faith anything like that will happen. It seems only Trump cares about fixing this.The bill was negotiated and written by Sen. James Lankford at the request of Sen. McConnell. You can check the record yourself, but Lankford is as red as they come. According to Lankford:
The invasion on the southern border on the other hand is currently active, it’s already happening and there are known terrorists and criminals among them entering the country that have no such restraints as MAD. The likelihood that they are planning a set of multiple 9/11s is very high.Would the following proposed bill seal the southern border to your satisfaction? I've linked to shorter summaries first since nobody wants to wade through 280 pages.
Not by the millions. Not even close! And historically they’ve all been Mexicans. Hard working Catholics for the most part. Now they are from all over the world including radical Muslims and Chinese on an unknown mission. Erosion of our culture including our form of government can very easily happen from within with this massive invasion. This is a much bigger immediate threat than missiles from Russia or China.What is your source of information? All the demographics on illegal immigrants (that are caught) are collected and published by the government. It is likely that everyone relies on that source - if it is not believed then no valid source of statistics exists to support argument of any sort. That said, I found the following site has collected the government info into helpful graphs:
I am for immigration. We need young men. But we must vet them and they must come legally.