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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 12, 2024, 06:51:15 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on April 12, 2024, 04:33:15 AM
Nothing wrong with the private sector making money on a new technology that SELLS ON ITS OWN MERIT due to market demand. Not artificially forced profits due to their corrupt symbiotic relationship with GOVERNMENT and the POLITICIANS and bureaucrats that control agencies like the EPA.

Jeez Joe. Take off the blinders.
I'm not the one with the blinders on.
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Just because you have a place to charge and the money to by an EV, doesn't mean most other people have them. They don't. Most other people live paycheck to paycheck and or need government assistance.
Aw gee.  You forgot to say "it's for the children".

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More generation and more distribution will NOT be built in our lifetime.  Not even close. Maybe 50 years and then what will be allowed to power that generation? Solar? HA! Wind? HA!
There is currently more power waiting to join the grid than the total being supplied by the grid today, but the regulatory backlog is over 5 years and growing.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 11, 2024, 04:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Anthony on April 11, 2024, 01:46:52 PM
EVs only work if you have ready access to an ICE vehicle, have a home charging station and enough money to buy them.
  That works for me.  But I wouldn't have a need for an ICE vehicle too.  Although the Bonanza has an ICE.

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Then there's still a matter of generation and distribution to support them.
That is just a matter of time.  It will happen.

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How do they dispose of the batteries? It's not just about their manufacture.
Recycling old batteries is a legitimate problem.  But there are technologies in the works that promise to help with that.

A friend of mine has a 2013 Tesla with almost 300,000 miles.  He lives about 65 miles from his job in Atlanta, so about 130 miles per day.  He has lost about 15% battery capacity since new.  He figures he saved enough on gas to buy a new Tesla.  And when the battery loses enough to make it unacceptable, it is still perfectly suitable to be used as battery backup for a home or business, which will extend it's life for another 10 years or so.  By that time, I suspect battery recycling will be improved.

But why is it that people that are gung ho on nuclear power don't care about that nuclear waste that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years?


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Bottom line, this is all to make the players in the public and private sectors richer and LIMIT TRAVEL.
I'm not going to defend the people in the public sector.  But what's wrong  with people in the private sector developing a technology that will make them richer?  But limit travel?  I don't think so.  If anything, cheaper fuel will enhance travel.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 11, 2024, 09:22:58 AM »
Quote from: elwood blues on April 11, 2024, 09:18:11 AM
Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.  I think you already knew that.
I have no reason not to believe that about you, and a few others.

But many of the anti-EV crowd are actually displaying that same hypocrisy when they whine about how bad batteries are for the environment.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 11, 2024, 09:07:54 AM »
Quote from: Number7 on April 11, 2024, 08:04:39 AM
When you examine how much energy is wasted in the manufacture of EV’s and the ecological damage their creation causes, you begin to understand how fake the idiot environmental mental cases have become.
I'm going to coin a new word:
neo-environmentalist.  People that are suddenly environmentalists when it suits their agenda but have never given a shit about the environment before.

But I have neither the energy or desire to counter every stupid argument against EVs from an echo chamber.

I am totally against mandates, tax credits or penalties pushing EVs.  But I am just as staunchly against people that try to tell me I am the stupid one or a typical liberal because I think EVs have a future and that they would suit my situation and driving patterns perfectly.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 11, 2024, 09:03:27 AM »
Quote from: Rush on April 11, 2024, 08:01:34 AM
They are incredibly dangerous. One of our neighbors’ house burned down a few months ago, the fire department determined it was a battery in a weed eater or the like, in his garage.  Just went off, all by itself when nobody was around thank goodness, no one was hurt in the fire.  If it had happened in the middle of the night with everyone at home asleep, might have lost more than just their house and all their belongings.
Ice vehicles are more likely to catch on fire than EVs.  And that is per 100,000 vehicles, not raw numbers.
Hybrids are even more likely to catch fire than either.  I'd provide a link but it would the link would just be criticized so I suggest you look it up on sites you do believe.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 11, 2024, 06:06:50 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on April 11, 2024, 05:03:59 AM
The US has 145,000 locations to buy gas.   One doesn't need to fill a gas tank daily. 
Just because it is so simple and easy to charge an EV, it doesn't mean people will need to do it every day.  A 200 mile charge will last me over a week.
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  Those nastier elements are cheaper, hence why the battery producers want them over the more expensive technologies.
Funny how the anti EV crowd has suddenly become a bunch of environmentalists.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 11, 2024, 04:24:45 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on April 11, 2024, 04:12:41 AM
There is no "yet". You're NEVER going to have charging stations on street, nor in apartment complexes parking lots for every space. Also, building power plants and distribution takes decades or longer IF it ever happens. So still B.S.

Where do the minerals for batteries come from? They're not here, domestically.  Where are most batteries and electric car parts made? CHINA. EVs are the biggest joke since the Covid response.   ::)

Of course the two closet Leftists still push for EVs. GMAFB.
Even if only half, or a quarter of homes will ever have charging stations, compare that to how many homes have gas pumps in their garage?

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Top six countries with the largest lithium reserves in the world
1. Bolivia – 21 million tonnes
 2. Argentina – 17 million tonnes
3. Chile – 9 million tonnes
4. United States – 6.8 million tonnes
5. Australia – 6.3 million tonnes
6. China – 4.5 million tonnes

And there are several battery technologies that don't depend on some of the nastier elements currently used.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 10, 2024, 05:26:49 PM »
Quote from: Anthony on April 10, 2024, 05:14:58 PM
B.S. The grid nor generation can't support EVs. Also,  most people can't charge at home. Apartment dwellers, row home and people with on street parking (city dwellers), etc. Plus the range and charging stations aren't there.
As I said: Keyword being "yet".
And only people from Philadelphia know what a row home is.

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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« on: April 10, 2024, 04:32:38 PM »
Quote from: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 10, 2024, 04:08:21 PM
. EV's are not serious vehicles for traveling yet.
Keyword being "YET".
IMNSHO, the only legitimate gripe against EVs are the Federal mandates and tax credits.  Everything else is just noise.

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Spin Zone / Janet Yellen's trade war?
« on: April 08, 2024, 06:35:52 AM »
When Trump tried to protect American Industry by placing tariffs on Chinese goods, everyone called it "Trump's Trade War".

Now Janet Yellen is proposing those same types of Tariffs.  Will this be called Yellen's Trade War?  Or will she be called a courageous protector of American industry?

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Spin Zone / Re: Years Late - CDC Releases Covid Vaccine Injury Reports
« on: April 06, 2024, 07:32:29 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on April 06, 2024, 07:10:28 AM
   ???

  No one said it was, but it does contain data, and our government was busy censoring any negative information concerning the vax, so they narrative became VAERS is unreliable.

  The narrative was "Safe and Effective".
Agreed.  And I do remember hearing "practically" 100% effective.
Then 90%
Then 75%
Then . . .
Then a 3rd one is needed.
Then perhaps annually.
Then, Well, at least it usually keeps you from dying if/when you catch the disease.

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Spin Zone / Re: Years Late - CDC Releases Covid Vaccine Injury Reports
« on: April 06, 2024, 06:57:16 AM »
When to Use All of the Sudden
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All of the sudden is an incorrect formulation of the phrase all of a sudden. Given the fact that it’s not the correct spelling of the phrase, it is rarely used in print.
That is an incorrect statement.  I see it in print often. Or at least in electronic font.

VAERS is merely an information gathering tool.  It is not meant to be a definitive conclusion of anything.

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Spin Zone / Re: Zelenskyy Has A New House….
« on: April 03, 2024, 04:29:44 PM »
Quote from: Rush on April 03, 2024, 03:23:26 PM
Oh so it’s fake news?
Would that surprise you?

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Spin Zone / Re: Tulsi - I’m sold!
« on: April 03, 2024, 04:18:06 PM »
Quote from: President in Exile YOLT on April 03, 2024, 02:05:49 PM
Her stupid hair "style" screams "liberal feminist."
::)

Compare her hair to DJTs?
IOW hair doesn't matter.

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Spin Zone / Re: Tulsi - I’m sold!
« on: April 02, 2024, 06:03:17 PM »
I liked Tulsi when liking Tulsi wasn't cool.

I think you are mostly right in that the D party changed.  But I think Tulsi changed too.  I believe that as she saw the growing hypocrisy of the democratic party she re-evaluated some of her beliefs and discovered that she had been misled by what seemed like good intentions.  I think her re-evaluation awakened some of her sensibilities.

Just like a reformed smoker is among the most vehement of anti-smoking people, I think a reformed Democrat (or communist) can be the most solid conservative.  They have seen the enemy, and it is them (with apologies to Pogo).

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