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Spin Zone / Re: Roe v. Wade Overturned
« on: July 08, 2022, 09:37:20 AM »
Is there actually a threat that states will try to prevent you from traveling to another state for whatever reason you want?  Or try to say if you do something in another state which is legal in that state, that you create a legal problem for yourself in your resident state?

That would be regulation of interstate commerce, which is explicitly assigned to Congress.  Even if a State made such a law, it would be struck down pretty quickly.

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Spin Zone / Re: FJB impeachment thread
« on: July 08, 2022, 09:35:35 AM »
Congress will never remove Biden.  Democrat Senators will never be embarrassed enough by him to be shamed into voting to remove him.

However, he will be removed via the 25th Amendment sometime around February-March of next year.  That is just after his 2 year mark, so Kamala can be president for 10 years.

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Spin Zone / Re: SCOTUS- West Virginia v. EPA
« on: July 03, 2022, 06:54:57 PM »
Carbon Monoxide is poisonous.   CO2 is not.

It is to the planet.  I heard Greta say so.

I wouldn't go get too excited about this ruling.  There's far more evil done by creeping slowly than giant leaps. 

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Spin Zone / Re: 2000 Mules
« on: June 30, 2022, 07:39:09 AM »
Have they recounted?

Recounting can not detect ballot stuffing or ballot harvesting.  If I gave you four $20 bills and a 20 from monopoly and asked you to count, you'd get 100.  You could recount and still get 100.  But until you recognize that one of the bills isn't legitimate, you can't get the correct answer.

I'm a doubter.  But I'm also convinced there's something here.  That isn't because I like Trump (I don't), it's because I value freedom and fairness.  I don't believe the 2020 election was fair at all.

In 2016, Hillary got 1,837,300 votes in Cobb County.  In 2020, Democrats did a "better" job getting out the vote and Biden got 2,473,633 votes - 636,333 more, a 35% increase.  That's suspicious, and then we see evidence that supports massive ballot harvesting.

There's statistical ways to show this.  Here's an study that has done this with past known ballot fraud.  I wonder what this kind of statistical visualization would show.  Wish I had the data.  https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1210722109

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Spin Zone / Re: 2000 Mules
« on: June 29, 2022, 02:23:59 PM »
Please note I did not say there was no evidence of fraud. There is and has been for some time. What there is NOT is evidence that fraud had affected the outcome.

You’re just saying you don’t want it investigated. Many, many people disagree with you and perception is reality. Your reticence to not even try isolates them and makes them threats to our country. They might even be right, but you don’t know because you’re too arrogant to consider you don’t know it all.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2000 Mules
« on: June 28, 2022, 05:15:01 PM »
This is inverting the burden of proof in a very seriously erroneous way.

Say for example I assert, there is a ghost on the upper shelf of my closet. Does that mean we should all assume that is true until you prove it is false?

Fairly clearly not. That is what is meant by the burden of proof is on he who asserts existence. In this example, me because I asserted that there was such a ghost.

Applied to this case. The assertion that there has been widespread systematic voter fraud is an assertion that a specific type of fraud has occurred. Lacking at least plausible proof that this is the case, it is reasonable to assume it has not.

But another way to consider this is in terms of non-falsifiable beliefs. What evidence, which could exist in principle, would you find persuasive that no such fraud has occurred?

If one can't name any, then it is a non-falsifiable belief. These have all sorts of logical problems.

Finally, there is the more scientific way to consider the evidence and that is to objectively consider the evidence both for and against the proposition. What sort of evidence is there that coordinated systematic fraud occurred in the 2020 presidential election? I have been asking for some months now for an objective overview of the evidence on both sides and have not heard of one. The film "2000 Mules" was said to be worth considering in this regard. In my view it fails to present even a plausible case to back up its assertion to the effect. But I remain very interested in such an objective overview if one exists.

You, like so many before you, are confusing evidence with accusations. There is no evidence of a ghost in your closet beyond your assertion. While I don’t believe it, I hold out the possibility that with evidence, it could be proven, or at least support be shown to warrant a serious investigation.

That’s what we have here. There were initially accusations of fraud - expected, but a big nothing.  Then there is data showing irregularities in voting patterns, patterns that are know to coincide with ballot box stuffing - Cobb county seeing a 40% rise in Democrats voting for example, more than voted for Obama in a largely black district. Beyond that, there is now video evidence of people dropping a dozen or more ballots at once into boxes and taking precautions not to leave dna evidence behind. There is forensic evidence of travel patterns which branch out from concentrated points and move to multiple ballot drop box locations. 

These move into the realm of evidence of fraud and require deeper investigation, both because of the scientific nature of the evidence and the impact of what it means if true. Your vote and the vote of everyone in your family might have been invalidated by a mule.

Beyond that - many Republican are sure this happened and, given the Left’s gaslighting, believe their only recourse is to cheat in kind.  It is critical to the integrity of elections that the truth be known.  Otherwise, every election becomes tainted with a claim of illegitimacy.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2000 Mules
« on: June 28, 2022, 03:21:11 PM »
I actually suspect that many commenters here have essentially a non-falsifiable belief that the election was “stolen”. So the only way to deal with that is for such people to define what evidence, which could exist, would be persuasive that the election was NOT stolen.

The evidence - you cannot prove a negative. So the answer is to assume it’s right, then show the evidence is wrong.  Part of the problem here is that there’s been a serious accusation and the Left’s response has been gaslighting. They don’t want to know if the election was stolen because they want it to happen again.

How can there be this amount of evidence of a conspiracy to corrupt the democratic process and there be no concern for what the truth is? 

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Spin Zone / Re: Roe v. Wade Overturned
« on: June 25, 2022, 07:23:48 PM »
The Left is rapidly losing the right to complain about an insurrection. 

I dislike the gratuitous use of the word traitor, but it is becoming appropriate too.  Their attempt to delegitimize a third of our government is destabilizing our government. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Gun violence - focus on violence.
« on: June 21, 2022, 04:32:14 PM »
If you keep talking about guns, you’re letting the left control the topic.  You’re playing their game on their field by their rules and they only have to win once.

Remove guns and people will still die from violence.  Remove violence and guns stop being a topic.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2000 Mules
« on: June 20, 2022, 07:19:40 PM »
Anyway, without additional specifics, missing even the names of alleged perpetrators, the film cannot satisfy a court's criteria. But that was not its goal and it shouldn't be judged on those merits.

It doesn't satisfy a court's criteria and never can, because that isn't how court evidence works.  Anything they bring to a court can be dismissed for lack of qualification.  But the evidence they do have ought to be enough to trigger an official investigation which can show the court.  And those people that aren't named have a phone number.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2000 Mules
« on: June 15, 2022, 09:52:40 AM »
Something to consider is that they demonstrated the method used, but did not show the documented data for every case. Would you agree that if the data shows what they claim, it is a crime that requires jail time for everyone involved in the conspiracy? 

To me, this is intolerable.

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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: June 15, 2022, 09:47:01 AM »
The US Mint has release a new coin to commemorate the Biden Administration.  Every American should be so proud of this.


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Spin Zone / Re: Kavanaugh murder plot
« on: June 09, 2022, 04:55:34 PM »
A nit - when you're talking about murdering a Supreme Court Justice to advance your political agenda, the proper word is "assassination". 

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Or, like AOC, she was elected by a small group of fanatical followers, not by the majority. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Gun violence - focus on violence.
« on: May 31, 2022, 06:21:44 AM »
If you want them to quit voting for destructive Democrats, or to abandon socialist views and move more center-right, badgering them with hate is NOT the way to do it. 

Political conversion is not the goal.  The goal is to get people to stop killing others.

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