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When you hobnob with Richard Branson, you've got to have the coin!

Why do mega rich business people become far left kooks?  Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Branson, Brian Roberts, Igor of Disney, anyone that heads Goldman Sachs, like John Corzine, etc.  Is this just the global, elitist, statist cool thing to do?

I often wonder that. It's such a good question.  I have some theories. You would think since many of them got rich via capitalism that they wouldn't be leftist, but then you have to remember a leftist NEVER intends to live by the rules he makes for everyone else.

Theory number 1:  Like many people their politics is more a result of their background and social circle, not critical thinking, and they are usually urban, so that would lean them Democrat.  Just because they are smart and rich does not necessarily mean they applied the same critical thinking to politics that they applied to their business.

In fact, I have come to believe that BECAUSE celebrities and rich businessmen are so focused on whatever made them rich, they spend their time on that and so have a deficit in other areas.  A person has to apply independent thought and intelligence to politics in order to escape the brainwashing of the media. Maybe these people just can't be bothered.

I think this is a big problem with musicians.  Extremely good musicians dedicate a lot of their days to making their music.  Their music touches our deepest heartstrings.  But when musicians apply a political slant to their songs, because they are genius with music, people believe they are also genius with their lyrics.  Because of the emotional rapture one feels with the melody, one MISTAKENLY believes the lyrics are equally divinely inspired.  I have come to believe that they are NOT. That many musicians, despite their musical talent, are some of the stupidest most ignorant people alive on matters of politics and this is possibly because they are more interested in their music than in learning a lot about other things in the world.

Theory number 2: Situational Acquired Narcissism. Very rich and very famous people over time tend to display symptoms of the personality disorder known as narcissism, but it is not organic so much as a result of their fame. Because everyone else puts them on a pedestal they start to believe it themselves.  Like any narcissist, they then have the false  belief that their ideas are better than others' and that they know better how to run the world than others. This leads directly to economic collectivism in all its forms, because economic collectivism is about a central authority controlling everybody else. Naturally, like all leftists, they put themselves as part of this authority.

Theory number 3: A bit of inborn narcissism, which may be the very reason they were able to become so rich. This means they are skilled at using people for their own gain.  They have no real ideals other than themselves: enriching themselves is their only goal.  So their leftism doesn't really have anything to do with real beliefs in the ideal of leftist utopia.  These people (born narcissists) see others as existing only to benefit themselves and so their supposed leftism is nothing more than manipulation of others for their own purposes. Example, they don't really want to save the planet for all humanity; they are only talking "green" for whatever gain it brings their own pockets.

These people will also align themselves with whatever group they feel will come out on top, always.  Because leftism is always about control, with the leftist on top, they naturally are drawn toward the left. True free market capitalism is a system that respects the intelligence of every individual to manage his own micro-economy.  The narcissist isn't capable of granting anyone else any intelligence or wisdom, so might not be able to grasp this concept.

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Spin Zone / Re: Would you support overturning Roe-v-Wade?
« on: May 09, 2017, 12:27:36 PM »
I agree with that, and I am sure there was a range of opinion concerning Africans at the time, but the mere fact that enslavement was considered a common (normal) and legal thing tells me that it was "in general" accepted by a large part of society.  I don't pretend to know what people were thinking, just see the outcome of that thought that is cataloged in history.  How did the Spanish treat the native people they discovered, also how did many whites treat the American Indian, and vica versa in that Indians regularly massacred whites.  The Japanese military treated our soldiers as subhuman, mongrel dogs just decades ago, as did the Nazi's in their treatment of the Jews.   

I wasn't so much disagreeing with you as agreeing with the bolded part.   ;D

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Spin Zone / Re: Things are not rocking yet............
« on: May 08, 2017, 05:38:48 AM »
I doubt you'll see the kind of Economic growth you're looking for a absent technological innovation. That's what fostered the last big boom.

You might have it backwards. Technological innovation is a result, not a cause, of capital investment and economic growth.

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Spin Zone / Re: When Communism Inspired Americans- NYT
« on: May 04, 2017, 06:07:27 AM »
I do three. Any time you have a group disperse to different locations they will evolve separately. Their language, culture, and even physical characteristics will diverge over time.

Maybe all Jewish people retain a certain tribalism that embraces socialist/communist property division, you redistribute wealth, which is pretty basic to leftism including Democrats.  It's a system that works well in small groups but fails spectacularly in large nation states.

I have heard some Jewish Democrats talk in support of Israel when it comes to U.S. foreign policy. On that issue they don't agree with their fellow Democrats, but on gun control, social programs, etc, they are liberals.  That's fair enough, I respect it when people take stands on the different issues without falling lockstep with their chosen party.

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Spin Zone / Re: Obama's sex secrets laid bare
« on: May 04, 2017, 05:36:09 AM »
My point exactly, the double standard. The press made a big deal of Trump's marital affairs.   They came unglued over the mere mention that GWB may have tried cocaine.

And of course everyone is just bemused because Bill Clinton didn't inhale.  That little rascal.

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Spin Zone / Re: When Communism Inspired Americans- NYT
« on: May 03, 2017, 07:36:01 PM »
You guys keep confusing American Jews with Israeli Jews.  They are definitely not the same thing.

Are you talking about what I said?  No they're not but I still don't see why American Jews would support Democrats supporting Muslims over Israeli Jews.

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Spin Zone / Re: ESPN - the impact of promoting far left ideology
« on: April 27, 2017, 09:13:07 AM »
Musicians and comedians do it all the time. It's taken the enjoyment out of going out for some entertainment.

As far as I'm concerned comedians have destroyed their art with their constant left leaning blather. I don't watch them anymore. With a new comedy routine you can almost bet money it's going to bash Trump/Republicans/Conservatives and/or be heavily focused on feminism/racism etc. etc.  I open a new Netflix comedian and hear this crap within the first few lines and I just shut it down, I'm not listening anymore. Even the TV trailers for late night acts like Samantha Bee and Conan usually have an anti-right cut in their 30 second ad. I'm sick of it. It's driving me away from TV in general.

It's creeping into movies and miniseries, even historical ones.  Some female heroine in the supposed 1700's going around spouting feminist nonsense. You cannot have a black character without hyper focus on racism.  The whole entertainment industry (except a few independent filmmakers) cannot tell a story without it being through a 2017 leftist lens. 

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So where will y'all go to find that political satisfaction?  I can understand it when your choice of Party/President doesn't turn out as promised.

The President isn't disappointing me at all so far.  As for the party, I've never really been a Republican ideologically. I vote with them because in general, they are less destructive to the country than the Democrats.

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Libertarian?  Maybe they don't have cookies, but do have pot!  ;)

Yes the Libertarian party probably aligns more closely with me than any of the other major parties. But lately I've not liked calling myself a libertarian.  For one thing, I disagree with the party's position on some issues, and for another, a lot of people calling themselves "libertarian" are socialist libertarians which is a contradiction in terms, and really just another version of communism.

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Possibly a centrist Republican/Democrat?  That way you can criticize both sides (and take heat from both sides)??

Both sides are richly deserving of criticism. 

But I don't like the term centrist.  There are two ways to be a centrist and they are completely different. Say there were only two issues.  You could be a centrist by being undecided, or apathetic, or completely compromising, on both issues. Or you could be a centrist by being extreme right on one and extreme left on the other, and taking the average would put you in the center.

My position on any one issue could be anywhere.

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That's spelled T r u m p.

T - to
R - ramp
U - up
M - man's
P - prosperity

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Yes, that would be hard to believe.  You can't be serious.

Yes, the poor get a "prebate", which sound like an entitlement, but as you correctly pointed out, EVERYONE gets a prebate.  So how could it be unfair?
And consider that the prebate essentially removes the need for any sort of welfare?  Just think about that for a moment!  Our current entitlement system is so bloated, innefficient and out of control it numbs the mind.  Nobody will be going down the the 7-11 to sell their food stamps or WIC vouchers for half price to buy booze and cigarettes.  They will just buy it with their prebate money and the scammers get none of it (except for the usual wayts that fools find to part with their money).

Right now, many employers pay illegals under the table to avoid payroll taxes.  With the fair tax, there are no more payroll taxes.  Workers get to keep what they are told they are earning.  Most of the incentive to hire illegals evaporates right there by helping to equalize pay.  Illegals don't get the prebate.

As I said earlier, otherwise intelligent people can always come up with some objection to any sort of tax plan.  But I really can't figure out how you can think that this plan would be anywhere near as unfair or cumbersome as the current tax code.  Yeah, the Canadian and European "VAT" are incomprehensible to the point that no one has any idea how much tax they are paying.  Our current tax code is what gives the Federal Government most of it's control over our daily lives and what gives politicians such great power, and which gives the rich, who can afford an army of tax accountants, such leverage.  But that is why it will never happen.  The all powerful politicians and lobbyists for huge companies are afraid of it because it actually does help level the playing field for anyone.

I don't disagree with you and if it were put to a vote I'd probably vote for it.  My concern isn't so much what is proposed, it is more what compromises and changes would be made along the way.  Suppose for example, welfare is NOT stopped?  Now they're getting welfare AND the prebate.  And of course the rate can always be raised, just like income tax. But unlike income tax, there will be no way to shelter from it.   And that would apply to everyone, not just "the rich".  It's supposed to start out at 23 percent, but that's inclusive, it's actually 30% which is pretty high to begin with. For me to be comfortable with it, I'd want a Constitutional Amendment locking the rate.

For that matter, if there is no Constitutional Amendment revoking the income tax, there is nothing stopping the Feds from later on, adding back an income tax on top of the consumption tax.

I guess it's not the Fair Tax plan per se I mistrust, it's the implementation down the road.  People seem to think it offers some sort of protection from the abuses of DC, but that's a fantasy; there is no real protection.  The problem isn't so much our income tax system, as it is how it's been distorted and grown in a malignant way.  I don't see how the Fair Tax would be much more immune to the same thing, in the long run.

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The last part in that video says it all:  Castro's personal worth was $900,000,000 when he died.  Those who enforce socialism are fucking hypocrites.

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Spin Zone / Re: Fox's Ted Baxter FIRED - Not Fake News
« on: April 22, 2017, 06:48:56 AM »
Of course I can't know exactly what happened here. But I've been a female working in a male dominated environment and I know the general territory very well.  The facts are, males and females will play the sexual game EVERYWHERE and part of that means males will pursue females before the female, if ever, develops any interest. Back when I was young, such male attention at the workplace was considered normal so long as the advances never were used to threaten your job, or of course, never became forcible against your will.  If the attention was not wanted, a well placed verbal cut was usually sufficient to put a complete stop to it. If a woman accepted such attention, it then became her responsibility as much as the man's. You wouldn't dream of later accusing a man of "harassment" if you had failed to smack him away at the moment of the incident.

You could claim a "culture of sexual harassment" at any workplace, if by harassment you mean this biologically normal dance of the sexes.  But in today's world, apparently you are expected to cut this off, completely muzzle it.  That's never going to happen, it is against human nature.  Therefore, it is a set up for women to exploit for money, or for political purposes, any male or company. We have seen it over and over, used by the Democrats to destroy men they see as threats. So far it seems only Trump has been able to withstand this method of attack.

And don't get me started on how this atmosphere is misguiding our young people. Males are being taught that their normal testosterone urges are organically criminal and legally dangerous, and females are being taught that the slightest suggestive move, even if only verbal, has violated their emotional equilibrium. The message is that females are weak, despite all the feminist hype about female strength and independence.

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The simple formula is when 50% of the SS benefits and any other income hits a certain amount you begin paying taxes on the SS benefits and the amount can range up to 85% of it being taxed.

So basically when the government said, "We'll take your money and keep it safe for you then give it back to you when you're old," they lied.

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Paul, you have hit it out of the park.

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I'm not prepared at this point to go to war with a billion Muslims.

I am. Better now than when there are 4 billion Muslims.

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