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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Jim Logajan on May 23, 2024, 08:12:21 PM »What troops? The Ukrainian rag tag militia?Mercenary fighting for the Russians has a different view:
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Lucifer on May 23, 2024, 07:00:31 PM »oh good grief.
f'n brilliant military strategy - preventing troops from firing for fear of provoking...
Did people learn nothing from Vietnam and Korea?
What troops? The Ukrainian rag tag militia?
Once again you missed the point Bob. If the Ukrainians want to wage a war with Russia, be my guest. But what in the fuck are we (US) getting involved, and more over, why in the fuck are we funding one of the most corrupt governments in the world while they wage this war?
Oh, wait a minute “If we don’t defeat Russia there, we’ll have to fight them here!” Or here’s another one “We want to save Ukraines democracy!” HA!
We didn’t learn a fucking thing from VN, Afghanistan, Iraq and countless other “police actions” around the world.
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by President-Elect Bob Noel on May 23, 2024, 06:28:23 PM »
And now the dictator wants to fire US produced missiles into Russia. This of course would escalate and more than likely kick off WW3.
oh good grief.
f'n brilliant military strategy - preventing troops from firing for fear of provoking...
Did people learn nothing from Vietnam and Korea?
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Rush on May 23, 2024, 05:51:27 PM »But still, a complete Russian victory over there will be far worse than us supporting Ukraine.
Why?
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Lucifer on May 23, 2024, 05:32:35 PM »At least that is what Putin wants us to think, but the last thing he wants is all out war with the West. And the cowardly west is buying it.
Of course he doesn't want war with NATO or the west. But we have our SoS Blinken trying to push him into escalating. Plus the regime in Washington has tried to stop or delay peace talks. War is big business.
The jury is still out on that. The delay by the Republican party has greatly reduced the chances of us getting anything out of it.
But still, a complete Russian victory over there will be far worse than us supporting Ukraine.
The Ukrainians will never "win" no matter how much money we pump into it. Ukraine is another VN and Afghanistan rolled into one.
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Little Joe on May 23, 2024, 04:52:44 PM »Your dictator buddy wants longer range missiles to hit Russian assets within Russia, not just Russian held territories.. This will lead to escalation.At least that is what Putin wants us to think, but the last thing he wants is all out war with the West. And the cowardly west is buying it.
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You may want to ask yourself what we as the US has gotten out of dumping $200 billion into this shithole.The jury is still out on that. The delay by the Republican party has greatly reduced the chances of us getting anything out of it.
But still, a complete Russian victory over there will be far worse than us supporting Ukraine.
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Lucifer on May 23, 2024, 04:45:15 PM »U.S. produced munitions have been fired into Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, all claimed by Russia as Russian territory as of 2022. Likewise into Crimea, which Russia declared as their territory back in 2014.
According to Putin and Kremlin "red line" warnings we should have kicked off WW3 by now. You might ask yourself what Putin or the power elites in the Kremlin have to gain by escalating to a world war versus what they have to lose.
Since Ukraine is already launching drones successfully toward distant targets deep inside Russia it isn't going to make a bit of difference if some munitions are now U.S. made.
Your dictator buddy wants longer range missiles to hit Russian assets within Russia, not just Russian held territories.. This will lead to escalation.
Those drones don't do much damage. A US made medium range warhead can.
You may want to ask yourself what we as the US has gotten out of dumping $200 billion into this shithole.
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Jim Logajan on May 23, 2024, 04:31:55 PM »And now the dictator wants to fire US produced missiles into Russia. This of course would escalate and more than likely kick off WW3.U.S. produced munitions have been fired into Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, all claimed by Russia as Russian territory as of 2022. Likewise into Crimea, which Russia declared as their territory back in 2014.
According to Putin and Kremlin "red line" warnings we should have kicked off WW3 by now. You might ask yourself what Putin or the power elites in the Kremlin have to gain by escalating to a world war versus what they have to lose.
Since Ukraine is already launching drones successfully toward distant targets deep inside Russia it isn't going to make a bit of difference if some munitions are now U.S. made.
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Lucifer on May 23, 2024, 03:55:02 PM »So Dictator Zelenskyy's "presidential" term expired, but no fear, under martial law elections are suspended, so he remains president indefinitely.
He knows if an election was held he would be tossed out, even after nullifying his opposition by banishment and arrest.
And now the dictator wants to fire US produced missiles into Russia. This of course would escalate and more than likely kick off WW3.
He knows if an election was held he would be tossed out, even after nullifying his opposition by banishment and arrest.
And now the dictator wants to fire US produced missiles into Russia. This of course would escalate and more than likely kick off WW3.
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Spin Zone / Re: Microsoft crashes several search engines
« Last post by Rush on May 23, 2024, 10:43:22 AM »My freespoke still works
Never heard of that one.