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Spin Zone / Re: What Went Wrong for the Cruz Campaign
« on: May 04, 2016, 08:59:44 AM »
I think what went wrong for Cruz was the media.  They wanted a Trump / Hillary matchup because it was the one which is most suited to having Hillary as president.  So the media has been very nice and very accommodating to Donald up to now.  They're not going to pivot immediately, but consider that yesterday he was the darling bad boy trying to get the nomination and now he has pretty much secured it and become their enemy.  The nice phase is over.

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Actually, the issue with shouting fire in a movie theater is not the shouting, it's the effect of the shouting.  I can walk into an empty movie theater and scream fire at the top of my lungs and it's not illegal.  I could similarly go in to a completely crowded theater and start asking everyone "do you smell smoke" in a very quiet whisper and potentially cause a stampede. 

You have free speech to say anything you want.  You also have responsibility for your actions.

I do like the idea of the perversion of 1A causing unintended side effects.  If 1A was read as the English words are written then there should be no confusion about them.  It is only when you start playing games with the meaning of the English words that a problem develops.  At that point, as I've asked before, why even have a Constitution since agreement on the meaning cannot be reached.


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Spin Zone / Re: Of The Two EVILS...
« on: May 04, 2016, 07:49:31 AM »
I'm thinking of voting for the Devil.

Why choose the lesser evil?

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Spin Zone / Back to the electoral vote
« on: May 04, 2016, 07:48:29 AM »
With Cruz dropping out the final election picture is clearer.  Is it time for Republicans to face the bleak and very blue electoral map yet?  Keeping in mind that the attachment I have is probably the most optimistic for Republicans that I can get right now AND that several of the polls are very old, my prediction today is that Hillary wins by 121 votes.  But also keep in mind that I called the 2012 race as "close", not the 126 vote disaster that it turned out to be. 

If you disagree with, which states totalling 62 do you think flip to red so that Trump wins? 

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Your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance.

I go back to Compuserve, before the Usenet was in vogue with the masses.  That experience doesn't qualify anyone to psychoanalyze another.

Of course, your diagnosis of me as a flaming liberal shows that either your reading comprehension is woefully lacking or your memory is insufficient to store and process the hundreds of posts I have made.

sticks and stones dearie. 

Compuserve...lol!

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Ooooo!  Jedi mind shit!  The force is strong in this one!  ::)

Nope.  Just experienced, going back to the early days of usenet, after Algore invented the internet, before Berners-Lee invented the web.  I've seen your personality multiple times.  If we drill away at this for 5-10 years, we will eventually arrive at a place where we all learn that the liberal wants what the liberal wants and never mind that things conflict.   

But you don't hold my interest to want to go that long.

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Spin Zone / Re: A Revision on the Bill of Rights, Part III
« on: April 30, 2016, 05:46:30 PM »
The leftists fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the Bill of Rights.

No.  They don't.  They know the bill of rights in particular and the Constitution generally, are restrictions on the power of government.  THAT is why they try persistently, consistently, without fail, to undermine them.

Actually, they do misunderstand.  I think we have proof of that in the other thread.


http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=post;quote=13292;topic=768.15

You do realize that absent the 14th Amendment, the 1st Amendment does not apply to any actions of a state government, right?

No one right enumerated in the Constitution is absolute.

Here are two people on the left who believe 1) That the Bill of Rights does not apply to a State Govt and 2) the Bill of Rights can be abridged at any time and to any extend.  Those two things kind of prove that they don't understand that the Constitution implements restrictions on government.  Restrictions that come and go or don't apply aren't restrictions.

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Spin Zone / Re: Is the 14th Amendment a threat to the Bill of Rights?
« on: April 30, 2016, 05:37:35 PM »
and both of you missed what the question was actually about.

In Reply #26, you asked:  "I asked if you have taken Constitutional Law"

In Reply #30, part of the post is:
"Quote

    True or false - "No laws may contradict any of the Constitution's principles"?


It could depend on what you mean by "principles", but if that means the text then the answer is:

True only if it is an exam question in a survey course.  In the real world, it is false. "


Apparantly, according to Kristin, courses aren't consistent with the real world.  So, again I ask: If the answers to tests conflict with the real world, why would you care if someone took (surveyed, audited, or took for credit) a course on Constitutional Law?

She doesn't have an answer to that because she can't.  She has a conflict because she argues what she wants emotionally rather than what is consistent

She advises that the Bill of Rights is a document to be ignored when convenient.  Nobody is going to convince her otherwise because she is arguing what she wants emotionally.


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Spin Zone / Re: Is the 14th Amendment a threat to the Bill of Rights?
« on: April 29, 2016, 11:01:38 AM »
While you may believe the term has been bastardized, it was a carefully-considered concept of the founding fathers, and one that substantially pre-dates our nation's birth. Nearly unanimously, the founders recognized limitations upon our rights when exercise thereof was detrimental to the common good. They were careful, however, to assert that the common good arose out of natural law and the ability to abridge rights was to be carefully considered and was a power bestowed by the people upon their government.

Limitations of our rights come from the nature of rights, not by compromising the meaning the English language.  If you're seeing something where you think one right conflicts with another then perhaps you're not looking at real rights.

I'd need to see some documentation of "carefully considered concepts of the founding fathers" before I could agree that they wrote words that they did not mean.  The gentlemen were educated men.  For example, when they wrote "The right of the people to be secure...shall not be violated...", they did not mean that it would be OK to violate them some of the time. 



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Spin Zone / Re: Is the 14th Amendment a threat to the Bill of Rights?
« on: April 28, 2016, 02:28:59 PM »
We have a Bill of Rights to make it more difficult for the government to infringe on liberties.

We have a Bill of Rights to PREVENT the government from infringing on liberties.  They don't use words like "should not" or "probably not a good idea", they use words like "shall not be violated", Shall not be infringed", "Shall make no law", "Shall enjoy the right"  Those are absolute phrases, there is no wiggle room in them unless you start playing Clintonian games with the English language.  The fact that they have been screwed up before now is not license to screw them up again.

And no, I did not attend law school but I was taught by law school professors from UNC and Campbell in both undergrad and masters program.

Constitutional issues are not only argued in the Supreme Court.  Decisions about Constitutional issues are only decided in the Supreme Court.  But every court from the local law judge up to District Appeals courts have to consider Constitutional issues.  They don't always do it right, which is why we have the appeals process.

And yes, I do understand absolute.  I'm a libertarian, remember. 

True or false - "No laws may contradict any of the Constitution's principles"?

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Spin Zone / Re: Is the 14th Amendment a threat to the Bill of Rights?
« on: April 28, 2016, 12:18:49 PM »
No one right enumerated in the Constitution is absolute.

Well, there's the problem then.

Why do we have a Constitution?  If nothing that is stated in the Constitution is absolute then everything can be changed in it, why bother to even have one?  You say nothing is absolute then what can not be taken away?  Constitutional rights are absolute or they are meaningless.  Meaningless laws are no basis for a Republic (a system of government based on law).  If your rights are not absolute then how do you know when or even if they exist?

FWIW, Yes, I have had courses in the Constitution and in law.  No, I am not one of the roughly 300 living lawyers who have argued before the Supreme Court and neither are you.  It's amateurish to attack someone's credibility this way, I thought you above that.  Post a picture of your Quill?

Google "hierarchy of laws" and learn a little.  Or here's a couple of direct links
NY University School of Law: A Guide to the U. S. Federal Legal System http://www.nyulawglobal.org/globalex/United_States.html
Georgetown University Law Center: Which Court is Binding http://www.law.georgetown.edu/academics/academic-programs/legal-writing-scholarship/writing-center/upload/which_court_is_binding_painter-and-mayer-final.pdf

Pay special attention to that second document, especially the table on page 5.  Note that when there is a conflict between a federal issue and a state issue, the decision is usually (always?) made in a federal court.  Looping back to the Kleins, a state issue was used to punish them in a state court but completely disregarded their federal rights.

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Spin Zone / Re: Electoral votes
« on: April 28, 2016, 11:57:39 AM »
I would take Kasich, but it isn't happening.  It will be an interesting election cycle.

It's been a sickening cycle so far.  If you compare Trump and Hillary to each other, all their negatives just serve as indictments of how bad the other one is.  With all the distrust of Hillary the only way the Republicans could not win would be to put up someone just as bad or worse and vice versa. 

It's like they scraped the bottom of the barrel on both sides to get the worst candidates they could find.

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Spin Zone / Re: Is the 14th Amendment a threat to the Bill of Rights?
« on: April 28, 2016, 11:50:49 AM »
Because if you accord that right to Christians, you have to accord Muslims the right not to hire women or infidels, etc.  It goes on and on and on.

Yes, I think  you are catching on.

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Spin Zone / Re: Are you shopping at Target?
« on: April 28, 2016, 11:15:22 AM »
Chuck says it best


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You say that like it's a bad thing?   ;)

Well it's bad if you want reliability.  Instability in government is generally bad for business.  When owners and managers don't know what's coming they hold money rather than spend it.  They don't hire, they don't train, they can't prepare because they have no idea what direction to prepare for.

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