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« on: February 05, 2024, 03:39:21 PM »I did.
Did you say how the exceptions applied in this case? Or how they have been adjudicated?
Those were the questions I was asking for enlightenment about.
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I did.
Nope. Just using the same tactic you used.
I asked you to provide proof to back up your assertion. All you provided was a link (that cost) and asked me to do the research.
I have. Go start reading about slander and libel in the law. There are exceptions.
As does your speculation and assumptions, and narrow understanding of the law.
Really? I believe you need to get our facts straight.
You made the statement, you back it up.
So why are all these suits coming about in 2023 and 2024? The records case says the "crime" took place when Trump left the WH, yet they waited until 2023 (and after Trump announced his run) to seek indictments.These cases have been going on for a long time. Lawyers have a saying "the wheels of justice grind very finely, but very slowly". The appellate issues had to be resolved before they could return to the defamation case.
He's a high profile public person, and has several businesses. So yes, he gets sued, a lot. Many high profile people get sued for anything and everything. Nothing new.Yes, I don't know if this is atypical for someone at his profile level.
Can you provide a link or screen shot of the Pacer?
Of course she is. She was a columnist and writer, and known by the public. She's been in the media eye since 2015 when she started making allegations. She appears on numerous talk shows and news shows.
There was evidence that Trump's lawyers tried to introduce as evidence that the judge would not allow. The evidence would have sank her case, so the judge intervened. Ask yourself why?
Calling a public person a liar is not against the law. It's called free speech.
That's why this whole case is nonsense and without merit, being run in a biased court.
Fair enough but I read the Truth Social post which I understand is the basis of the complaint. Am I wrong?
You seem uncomfortable with that.
What? Who is attacking anyone?
Oh, I do call bullshit on you stating my reply is a strawman. I stated facts of the case. You seem uncomfortable with that.
How do you seriously see nothing wrong with lawfare?
You seem to want to legitimize the use of lawfare, and now you want to see first amendment rights taken away.
Peter,Let’s avoid the attacks on the speaker, shall we. These are all strawman arguments.
You are really off base here. You seem to want to legitimize the use of lawfare, and now you want to see first amendment rights taken away.
Like it or not, outside of a biased political court, E. Jean Carroll is a public person just like Trump. She garners no special treatment, and Trump like every other citizen has a right to free speech, even if politicized courts disagree.
Look at Trump. How many public people have gone into the media and called him names, made absolutely false statements and smeared him? If he took any of these people to court, with the evidence in hand of the defamation the case would be tossed out immediately.
Lawfare is a breakdown of our legal system, a weaponization to be used against political opposition. Lawfare is practiced by totalitarian regimes. How do you seriously see nothing wrong with lawfare?
Imagine, claiming innocence when you’ve been accused of a crime is now “defaming” the accuser.I think it really does merit reading the complaint before drawing this sort of conclusion.