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Spin Zone / Tactics
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:10:44 AM »

I've proposed a system for this in the past.


Basically, each candidate would need to develop a 10 question multiple choice "quiz" about their policies.  When you go on one of those nice touch-screen voting machines and select "Bob Smith", you would then be presented with this quiz.  If you got <5 correct, then your vote would be silently discarded and not counted.


First off, it would ensure that only those people who actually knew something about the candidate they supported would be voting for that candidate.  If you don't know what you're voting for, why should your vote count?


Second, as a secondary benefit, it would reduce the amount of "negative" campaigning.  If you spend all your advertising money telling voters what a jackass Doug McKenzie is, then those who go and vote for you won't have a clue how to answer the questions.  Candidates will be forced by necessity to spend their time and money on ads about what their platform is, and that will take money and time away from the negative attacks.

Anti-Great White North!  Ah, I liked his brother Bob better. ;)

But to your point, who would judge the validity of the test?  I envision the following:

Who does Secretary Clinton feel is at fault for global warming, lack of affordable healthcare, pollution, Lyme disease, obesity, gun violence, and the creation of Duck Dynasty and Stone Cold Steve Austin's Broken Skull Challenge?

A.  Republicans

B.  Republicans

C.  Republicans

D.  The Winter Warlock
.

Admittedly 25% of the average democrat voter will get that question wrong, but that still puts too much power in the hands of the candidates. 

I'd prefer an 8th grade level quiz on the Constitution, or even the Citizenship test that immigrants must pass. By the way, do you think you'll pass?  :D.

:D

Edit:  D. Should be "The Winter Warlock."  Why does Tapatalk frequently truncate words and totally ruin great jokes?

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Spin Zone / Re: A Conversation with a Liberal Friend
« on: February 04, 2016, 07:49:36 AM »

So you were trained to deal with the real world and he, abstractions.

Excellent observation!

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Spin Zone / Re: Another Trump Endorsement
« on: February 04, 2016, 06:14:18 AM »
Can you imagine if Carter endorsed Trump?  Trump would hit the microphone in a New York minute saying "Did you see who Jimmy Carter endorsed?  Ted Freekin' Cruz!  Ted Freekin' Cruz.  This is yuuuuge!"

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Spin Zone / Re: A Conversation with a Liberal Friend
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:37:00 PM »

Same question. What did you guys major in?


And here's a beer and taxation story:
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this…

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing
The fifth would pay $1
The sixth would pay $3
The seventh would pay $7
The eighth would pay $12
The ninth would pay $18
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59
So, that’s what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.

“Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20″. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men ? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?

The bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,”but he got $10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”

“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

Ha!  I used the exact same example, verbatim, when arguing about George Bush's 2001 income tax cuts. That's the one where the 39.6% rate fell to 35%, the 28, 31, and 36% rates each fell by 3%, and a new 10% rate was created and carved out of the lower end of the 15% bracket.

He still complained, in the most blindingly irritating and ignorant manner, that the majority of the tax cuts went to George Bush's wealthy friends and not to the poorer people who "need that money."

Stop laughing.  No, I'm totally serious.

And he was a math major.

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Spin Zone / Re: A Conversation with a Liberal Friend
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:18:15 PM »

What were your and his college majors?

We both double majored. I was accounting and business administration. He was math and computer science.  He then worked for some banks before he "retired." 

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Spin Zone / Re: A Conversation with a Liberal Friend
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:15:44 PM »

3) "sorry to hear that head wound never healed"

Excellent!

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Spin Zone / Re: A Conversation with a Liberal Friend
« on: February 03, 2016, 08:14:15 PM »

I thought all Packers fans were pinko commie delusional freaks!

They are!!

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Spin Zone / Re: Bernie
« on: February 03, 2016, 05:21:24 PM »

I just realized that even if Bernie Sanders were elected President, he would get nothing through Congress.  Hence, I have concluded that Bernie Sanders is a waste of time.

That is all.

That's not surprising. At his age he also has trouble getting things through his digestive system.

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Spin Zone / Re: YouTube Ad Placement
« on: February 03, 2016, 01:55:01 PM »


I guess I was biased against CAPD.


I loved the book...it was the first Clancy book I ever read, and I had to buy a new copy a few years ago because I'd worn out the paperback version thereof! 


The movie sucked really bad for people who had read the book.  The portrayal of John Clark as a money-grubbing mercenary, and the killing of Dan Murray, made me sick to my stomach when I saw the movie.  I remember another person who saw the movie but hadn't read the book that absolutely loved the movie...but I was forever negative on the movie.

I TOTALLY agree. In the late 1980s early 1990s I was commuting into Chicago every day on he train, so I got a chance to read every Clancy book up to that point. (No cell phones, no laptops, so you youngsters would have no idea what to do - now get off my lawn!)

I never saw The Sum of All Fears but I read the book and it was excellent. I understand the movie changed the middle eastern terrorists to Neo Nazi German (I think) White Supremacist, so I boycotted the movie.

I think Clancy's best (and most complicated) book was The Cardinal of the Kremlin. It's probably too tough to follow for short-attention span Hollywood types, so it will likely never be made into a movie.

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Spin Zone / Re: YouTube Ad Placement
« on: February 03, 2016, 01:23:41 PM »


I think of all the people who have played Jack Ryan, Baldwin did about the best job.  Perhaps Ford in Patriot Games.

I agree on Ford. He was also good in Clear and Present Danger.

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Spin Zone / Re: Question for the Trumpkins?
« on: February 03, 2016, 01:14:22 PM »
Thomas Sowell formed things nicely:

"Senator Cruz's refusal to pander to the sacred cow of ethanol subsidies in Iowa showed a resolve that is rare in politics, and may account for the Republican establishment's sudden shift to a more favorable view of wheeler-dealer Trump-- someone who can "rise above principle," as an old-time politician once put it."
http://m.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2016/02/03/after-iowa-n2113745?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad

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Spin Zone / Re: A Conversation with a Liberal Friend
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:40:04 AM »

Wow....  Your bride is a very wise lady, particularly if you want to maintain any relationship with the delusional reprobate... ;-)

If the latter no longer matters, I suspect you could shred him in a couple well written paragraphs. 

The only confusing part of this guy's make up is his excellent taste in football teams.  I had no idea pinko commie delusional freaks could be packer fans...

I guess Winston Churchill was correct.  He has no brain.

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Spin Zone / Re: Socialism Explained
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:35:25 AM »

Socialism/Communism/Fascism/Progressivism are just synonyms for the same thing.  Oligarchy.  Control in the hands of the few that do NOT EARN IT.  They risk nothing, but their cult of personality.  Our society is crumbling before our eyes, yet many can not see that.  Kommiefornia is a ruptured shell of itself.  It is unsustainable, and that's where we are all going.

Bingo. Just look at my "Conversation with a Liberal Friend" thread. That was from a 55-year old guy who grew up in a lower-middle class family, is college educated (BA and MBA) and now lives in a wealthy Chicago suburb.  You would think such a guy could see that the debt burden being placed on my daughter and his son is unsustainable (even before a President Sanders gets ahold of it) and will bring down THEIR country.

I guess Winston Churchill was right. He has no brain.

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Spin Zone / Re: YouTube Ad Placement
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:15:31 AM »

Great movie.  When Alec Baldwin was decent.  Then he became a frickin outspoken commie.
Baldwin was the weak link in that otherwise great movie.

And that was before he was Father of the Year for this voicemail that he left his 11 or 12 year old daughter"

"I don't care that you're twelve or eleven or whatever, are you pig enough to pick it up? I'm a good father, and you're a pig. I don't give a shit. Good father. You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you thoughtless pain in the ass? AIDA. Get mad you daughter-of-a-bitch. Get mad. You know what it takes to answer my call? It takes brass balls to answer my call. Go and do likewise. The phone is ringing, you pick it up, it's yours, you don't, I got no sympathy for you. I'd wish you good luck, but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it. You better be ready Friday the 20th to meet with me. Pig. Oh, also, tell your mother I said "Go fuck yourself." This is Dad, ring me back when you get a chance."

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Spin Zone / Re: We Invented Jesus Christ
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:12:41 AM »


I want to address this and it took me some reflection to figure a way to properly communicate to the audience here.
 
I first want to say that the over-arching principle should be respect for the property of others and their beliefs, even if one doesn't agree.  In Islam, forced conversion is not condoned.  Nevermind what we hear on the news, I'm telling you from my scholarship and from principles of correctness that "there is no compulsion in Religion (Islam)", reads the Holy Qur'an.  It is proper to judge the actions of someone against what they say they believe in.  The HQ says that it is abhorrent to say one thing and do another.  So if one were to condemn any action it should be done based upon the principles that have been professed and not from our own perspective; 'judge a man on what he says he believes' - Prophet Muhammad, pbuh.
 
Should an "ancient" Buddhist statue be destroyed?  When I first read the passage, it did not agree with me on the face of it.  It seemed against what I believe and what my scholarship tells me is proper conduct.  But what are the circumstances under which Bob Noel is speaking?  It is unknown at this juncture.  With the help of our friend Google, we find this.  I assume this is to what he was referring, an incident that occurred in 2001.  Certainly, a turbulent time in Afghanistan and many other parts of the world where antiquities were destroyed (ancient Iraqi libraries and museums, anyone?).
 
In thought, I likened the situation to a question of would I destroy an ancient Madonna.  It depends upon the circumstances.  It may also depend upon if one would consider 1500 years to qualify as "ancient" or the fact that the man Siddhata Gotama, known as the Buddha was alive only 2,500 years ago.  This is recent from my vantage point.
 
As I stated in a previous post, I have purchased property and subsequently whatever was left behind was my choice to with the contents as I saw fit.  I think there is no error in the rightful owner, inhabitant or controller of a parcel of land or property to do as they please with the remains.  However, it may be preferable that if one finds something that may be of value (even if sentimental) to gift it to someone who would appreciate it, assuming that it's transportable.  But it is not required.
 
In the case of the Taliban, they considered they were the absolute ruling party of the land and had the authority to establish religious rule there.  If the religion was declared something that is in conflict with the statue, then it would be lawful to remove the relic, as in the case of the story of Prophet Muhammad removing 360 idols from the Kahbah (I have been unable to corroborate if they were removed or destroyed, but destroyed seems much more likely and no one have since missed the idols).
 
If however, you are on a military campaign and you are the invading force, according to the precepts of the Islamic laws of conduct of war, it is NOT appropriate to destroy or target religious relics in the land that you are invading.  This is in keeping with a Hadith regarding respect for your enemy's property, livestock and crop - you may not destroy or harm it (intentionally), not even a single tree.  Every effort is to be made so that if peace can be brokered and hostilities ceased, peace will not be disturbed by deep-seated resentment causing the peace to be broken.

Lastly, religion has been corrupted. This includes Islam.  There are some symbols that SHOULD come down that worship in this day will only be for The Creator, Lord and Sustainer of all the Worlds.  This is a video that I saw recently of a Christian preacher discussing how religion and religious idolatry has become an obstacle for True worship.  I hope that you get something of value from it.
 
Peace.

Under what circumstances would you destroy an ancient Madonna?

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