They won't buy it.

Power is derived from seniority in office.  Take away that aspect and the power base can shift.  They know this.

 This is yet another reason for an Article V convention.

An Article V Convention is the ONLY way this can get done. Same with a balanced budget amendment.  Congress will not yield its power willingly.

I would think it would shape the policies we put into place. Of course we should still deny them entry unless they do it the correct way. Once again, please quote my post where I've said otherwise.

If it were proven that 100% of the people were just trying to find work (and we all know that's not true, it's just your example), then that would, I think, lead us to want to implement a better system for obtaining work visas. Make it easier for them to enter for work and return at the end of whatever their work visa period is. It's not that simple, though. Mexico has to play a role in this. We also need to enforce the laws on the books, or change them appropriately, to make it painful if you overstay your visa. It should be clear that we welcome those who want to work and contribute to our society, but taxes will be paid, and if you take advantage of our hospitality and generosity, you aren't welcome back. Throw in some sort of work credit system that earns them points towards getting a green card or citizenship to sweeten the deal once they demonstrate they can follow the rules and have done so for a certain time period.

In post #213, you chided Anthony for indicting a whole group of people, and questioned what percentage of them are criminals or just want to get benefits. So clearly it seems to me that the intention of the invaders matters to you.

I’m saying it should NOT matter, when the question of the day is the wall.

All of the things you mentioned have been available to Congress for decades, and Congress R+D has completely and utterly failed the American people to fix this mess.

So Donald Trump comes into town, sees the dysfunction, and decides to follow the will of the people to build a wall (or fence or whatever.)  it is completely and utterly irrelevant what semantics Trump uses to describe it. An invasion is not false. A crisis is not false. An emergency is not false.

In another post you asked what changed to make this become a crisis. The difference is instead of small groups of people being led by coyotes, bands of 15,000 or more (think capacity of Madison Square Garden for a Rangers game) at a crack have been traversing Central America with the express and blatant intention of bypassing our laws in order to force their way into this country.

That is unprecedented, and that must stop.

It's disconcerting that instead of discussing how we can fix the problem, we're squabbling over the definition of the problem. I stand by my argument that using the word "invasion" is meant to rally the base and strike fear that we must do something to stop "them" and then we throw all kinds of stuff into the mix to heighten the crisis.

I would be curious if there's some sort of regulation that Trump direct be changed that make it easier for work visas that wouldn't require Congressional approval. That wouldn't substitute the need for a wall by any means, but it's certainly something he could do to start making an impact in other ways.

Oh for the love of God. YOU are the one challenging what Trump and many of us are calling it. Now it’s disconcerting to you that we’re squabbling over the definition, or challenging your narrow definition of what is and what is not an invasion? 

Had you not wanted to play semantics, we actually would be talking about how we can fix the problem.

Smh.

Ive used it for towing a number of times, and it gave me peace of mind when my daughter drove back and forth from Wisconsin to Mississippi for vet school.

Good discounts on hotels - probably save the membership fee every year.

I think the benefit of joining your states AAA is a more geographically customized AAA magazine. That’s about it.

Funny thing. I had my daughter get maps for her trips.  I taught her to pre-fold them, etc. at some point she says “Relax, Indiana Jones.  I’ve got Google.” 

Well, at least he got the civics aspect correct.  Right now millions of Democrats are asking "Whats an Amendment?"

Cortez thinks she’ll be signing bills. The delusion and stupidity is astounding.

I saw how you just ignored the word ROME in his post.

No, I’m quite aware of the fall of the Roman Empire.  I took History of Western Civilization  in Catholic high school from a priest who took that shit seriously.

I’m also aware of the massive differences between the Roman Empire and call it the American Empire.

First, the RE lasted almost 1,500 years - six times longer than the US has been around.

Second, they were a conquesting Empire.  While we have had foreign wars, we secured no land except land to bury our dead.

The RE was located in an area rife with nearby enemies ready to attack in any century.

The RE bore the brunt of the Muslim conquests, and survived the Crusades.

The US has the geographical benefit of having the two largest oceans on each side of the country. If someone were to invade, we would know it.

Etc etc etc.

No MIGHT to it Anthony.  It's been a good run.

I’m not so sure. My dad said the same thing in the 1960s-1970s. We are a malleable country, and we’ve bounced back from crisis before.

It will only be the curtain call if we all quite. I don’t see it. 

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