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Spin Zone / Re: Getting our boys out of the way
« on: October 07, 2019, 03:41:48 PM »
Stability in the region that breeds terrorists.
I seem to have heard that argument about 18 years ago. How did that work out? 

I supported Gulf War I and II. GWI was fought appropriately, if not ending prematurely. It was fought with the goal of winning.

GWII on the other hand has been a American-slaughtering cluster fuck because the leftists got involved dictating ROEs that TO THIS DAY get our boys killed by driving along IED highways and walking down streets lined with known enemy combatants.  The concept of “winning” via superior firepower, with the goal of ending it, doesn’t exist. It never did.

So fuck the “stability in the region” excuse. If they get out of line, bring in the B-52s, B-1s, and whatever else we can bring to bear.

I’m sick and tired of not going for the win.

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Spin Zone / Greta
« on: October 07, 2019, 03:22:58 PM »
And this is exactly what I mean... other than (perhaps) muchow.dk which I've never heard of, they're all highly partisan sites that push propaganda rather than facts. Hardly what I would call reliable.

Again... not that it matters. I have no doubt that some leftist groups are paying for some of her activities, most 16 year old girls wouldn't have access to all that money. Her parents could possibly be sponsoring some of it, but likely not all. So maybe Soros is involved, maybe he isn't.

Once again... so what? No proof she is delivering any message but her own.
Can you name a real, unbiased investigative journalist?  I don’t think they exist anymore, unless you are looking for dirt on a political opponent weeks before an election, in which case they are all investigators, but certainly not unbiased.

My point is if the MSM chooses not to investigate something, that doesn’t mean that “something” doesn’t exist. Media bias is more hideous with the media deciding what the WON’T cover than in how they cover known events.

So if things may exist but you aren’t hearing it from ABCCBSNBCCNNMSNBC, should you just presume it’s a non issue? 

No. You look for alternative sites. Your presumption that these lesser known sites are just propaganda pushing sites and are not “reliable” demonstrates your own bias. I’m not saying some aren’t that, on both sides of the spectrum.  But it is intellectually dishonest to lump them all into that category.

It appears your criteria for what is “reliable” depends upon confirmation by the MSM. Sorry, but that will rarely happen, because they don’t want it to happen.

Those of us that have to search alternative sites for information aren’t lemmings willing to latch on to the latest conspiracy theory. We may shockingly be as smart as you when it comes to politics and world affairs. Shocking, I know. It would be good for you to not be so quick to discount the alternative media.  Sometimes that’s all we have.

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Spin Zone / Re: Getting our boys out of the way
« on: October 07, 2019, 09:08:09 AM »
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

Sounds completely the opposite from when Bush invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.
Since we are still in those places 17 years later, 13 years longer than the Second World War, I’m not sure I understand your definition of victory.

So I’ll ask again, what is the US National security imperative for getting involved in this?

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We really really need to see criminal indictments happen, and soon.

BINGO!!!  I fear we won’t see that, but if the electorate doesn’t see these deep staters pay for their traitorous behavior, all hope and faith in the rule of law will be eliminated.

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Can't listen to Hannity anymore, got tired of hearing we were only days away from every Democrat going to prison.
I agree. He’s unwatchable. That’s why I picked him for my post.

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Spin Zone / Re: Getting our boys out of the way
« on: October 07, 2019, 07:39:59 AM »
Trump moving our guys out of the way in Syria because....

I’m willing to entertain the idea that it’s beneficial to let Turkey invade, but I cannot see why. More war destabilizes the whole region.  Another spineless action because he is afraid of casualties?

I don’t get it.  Someone explain?
What is the US National security reason for us to get involved?

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I’m not a Piers Morgan fan, but he makes several good points. 

The moderate Dems should listen.
Wait. This is supposed to be an echo chamber, with most of us only listening to Sean Hannity 24/7. What in the hell are you doing listening to a liberal- a foreign one no less?  You’d better get your act together, sir, because a certain leftist has a stereotype of us that we are bound to maintain.

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Pilot Zone / Re: New Pilot Forum
« on: October 06, 2019, 03:10:55 PM »
Could someone go over there on that thread and advertise Pilot Spin?

Include the fact we don’t moderate and everyone is free to join and participate.
Will do!  I just registered. Gosh, I hope I’m accepted.

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Spin Zone / Re: Greta
« on: October 06, 2019, 02:59:23 PM »
With the exception of Tucker and Ingraham, Fox is unwatchable now. 

Plus, they put that fuckwad Paul Ryan on their board.
I agree, though I rarely watch Ingraham. Tucker is the only Fox show I watch.

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Spin Zone / Re: Greta
« on: October 05, 2019, 05:20:33 PM »
There are two things that I don't understand about this young lady.

1. Why some people in the media and on the left think she and her stunt are the greatest thing since sliced bread or even all that relevant.

2. Why some people on the right are obsessed with demeaning her and appear to think she is evil incarnate.

She's just a kid that I neither respect nor care to disrespect.  What's the big deal?
If your 16-year old kid lectured you and said “how dare you!”, what would you do?

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Spin Zone / Re: Greta
« on: October 05, 2019, 05:18:37 PM »
hmmmm, leads to all sorts of people who would be the antithesis of certain causes.

Ask Brian Williams about journalistic integrity
Ask President Trump about twitter diplomacy
Ask Bill Clinton about marriage fidelity
....


(but don't list any posters here because we wouldn't want to cause them to think they are being victimized)
I see what you did! 

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Pilot Zone / Re: New Pilot Forum
« on: October 05, 2019, 11:55:47 AM »
I’ll stand by my proposition that inside Steingar is a conservative struggling to get out. He comes to PilotSpin for tastes of the reason and interchange forbidden by the leftist circles in which he moves.

I predict that by the end of the second Trump term, Steingar will have emerged from his bindings and be basking happily in the light of reality.
A little day drinking, Becky? 

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Pilot Zone / Re: New Pilot Forum
« on: October 05, 2019, 06:54:25 AM »
Thanks for attempting to have a discussion.  As for "the proof is in the pudding", yes, yes it is.  The proof is you still refuse to acknowledge your role in creating dissent, you refuse to own up to your own behavior.

 You've made it clear, ad nauseam, that you dislike this forum. 

 And you still are playing the victim.  I guess you like that role.
Some people are so vested in the love of victimhood status that they often feel the need to create it themselves. 

It must be so rewarding to hear some people beg you to stay and not leave. I guess it’s some perverse way to get to feel desired.

I have no compunction to perpetuate that perversion.

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Spin Zone / Re: Greta
« on: October 05, 2019, 06:44:16 AM »
Wow. C'mon folks, she's a 16 year old girl. I blame the adults in her life. And actually, from the interview PBS Newshour did with her a couple of weeks ago, my impression is she's pretty intelligent. I could just as easily predict that one day soon she'll learn enough about the subject to realize there's no basis for catastrophic thinking here. In any case, she's too young to know yet what direction her life is going to take her.
Azure, will she claim any responsibility for the massive rise in climate-change mental health problems and suicides due to the doomsday scenarios that she and others are projecting?  I recall reading about a UK study on this phenomena. 

Same with 28 year old AOC. This immature bartender, within her first three weeks as a Congressman, said that the world will be ending in 12 years.  In turn, grown men and women on the left began using that rhetoric as well, of course with the intent of alarming and frightening our youth, some of whom may tragically take their lives because of it.

Being 16 and irresponsible is almost universal. But being 16 and fomenting global panic is quite another. Shame on her and yes, her parents and handlers.

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