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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 17, 2021, 01:44:38 PM »How do you remove someone from an office they don't hold?
You bar them from holding office in the future.
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You bar them from holding office in the future.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:38:23 PM »Senate rules may allow themselves to conduct an unconstitutional action, and the Supreme
Court will not interfere in an intra-body dispute. Nevertheless, as Alan Dershowitz concurs, “Convicting” a private citizen of impeachable offenses is null and void as such section is not sanctioned by the Constitution.
So if SCOTUS isn't going to get involved, who is going to rule it "null and void"?
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:33:08 PM »I didn’t quit reading you fucktard. You quoted my own quote where I said “IN ADDITION TO THE LANGUAGE IN ARTICLE I...” Such a childish way to debate.
Thank you for the demonstration of what it means to be childish and debate in a childish way. You have it down pat!
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:30:28 PM »By the time the Senate is back in session, it won’t be his call anymore. However, despite the relatively small number of borderline Senators , Democrats still need to get 17 to agree and given the lack of evidence, that is unlikely to happen.
I’ve got a good prediction record, but I might be off. Until about three months ago I would have said that conservatives were the thinking people and the left were the feeling people. But wow how three months have turned the emotions around.
I used to wince at the Dems dragging the homeless to the polls to get them to vote, figuring they were too ignorant to properly exercise the franchise. Now I realize that the ignorance is too widespread on both camps so what the hell. As long as they are citizens and of age, they can vote.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:27:29 PM »You didn’t use criminal; I did to make the distinction.
I don’t need to insert any words at all.
In addition to impeachment language in Article I, Article II Section 4 says:
“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
The operative term is “The President”, and the required action is “Conviction.” At noon on January 20th, Donald J. Trump will not be President. The Senate can convict the President, but can’t convict a private citizen. End of story.
You are reading it incorrectly. It says that removal requires impeachment and conviction. It says nothing about about a time limit on the trial. As there are other ramifications to being impeached and convicted, other than removal from office, the only logical interpretation is that the trial can happen after the perp has left office. One has to read the Constitution as a whole, and not just cherry pick parts of it. SCOTUS will do the former and very likely let Congress do as it will do with Trump.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:09:02 PM »For a document you claim to revere so deeply, you should spend more time with it.
Point to where it says a president cannot be convicted after leaving office. I’ll save you time, it isn’t there. Therefore the Constitution not only does not restrain the Democrats from trying him, it shouldn’t because there is nothing there. The only restriction is impeachment by the House, which has happened.
It’s true that he cannot be removed from office anymore, but are you not remembering the second clause which prohibits Trump from holding office or receiving honors.
I know that one has to sting, but if it’s consolation, it’s unlikely Democrats can bring any proof that Trump caused the riot...because he didn’t. When it comes down to it, Republicans will do well to draw out the proceedings as long as possible because Democrats are going to look worse and worse as it goes along.
They have been emotional, like you have been. You may believe me to be stupid, but I will never reach your level of stupid without significant help.
What he knows about the Constitution that is actually correct could be written on the head of a pin with a paint brush.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 12:02:39 PM »You may have been sleeping for 9 months, but cities like Minneapolis, Kenosha, Portland, Seattle, Washington DC and others burned for days in BLM and Antifa riots, COMPLETELY UNIMPEDED by law enforcement who stood by and watched it happen, at the stand-down orders of mayors and.or governors.
You would be more credible if you didn’t lie, and weren’t so hyperbolic.
I live outside Minneapolis and watched it. The cities were slow, and tried to be more gentle than the feds. Right or wrong! After awhile, the police got much rougher here.
But the feds clearly were harsher to BLM protesters that than white crazies in the Capital building. Again, I watched. I watched the beating and tear gas to clear a way for Trump to make a photo op. I watched the feds in Portland dragging protesters into vans. You can deny the obvious all you want. Freedom of religion is still protected.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 11:57:16 AM »You mean like by committing widespread election fraud to turn the election in favor the socialist party candidate? That kind of destruction of a democracy?
Given the premise is false, the question lacks meaning.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 16, 2021, 11:56:02 AM »
What! You mean that liars who support the Liar-in-Chief unquestioning would lie? Shocked! Shocked I am!
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Spin Zone / Re: The Purge Begins
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:36:39 PM »Then why is she so ashamed to admit it? And why are you so offended by it?
Oh, yeah. Projection is your silent weapon...
When you admit you are an ignorant, angry dickhead who hates women then I will admit to being anything you want me to admit to that isn't illegal.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Purge Begins
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:35:27 PM »It is scary the way the MEDIA and Education has indoctrinated and brainwashed much of the population. This is exactly what the Communists did to seize power and we are going right down that path very quickly. I hope we can find a way to fight back and send those "Progressive" Tesla drivers on a one way, battery draining ride to HELL.
It is scary the way the right-wing media and the lack of education has indoctrinated and brainwashed much of the population. This is exactly what the Fascists did to seize power and we are going right down that path very quickly. I hope we can find a way to fight back and send those Trump besotted pickup drivers on a one way, gas guzzling ride to HELL.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Purge Begins
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:32:54 PM »A family member of a FB friend posted this as a reply to a post.....I replied, "Come and get me, if you dare"
If you break into the capital or commit some other crime and are stupid enough to post selfies of yourself doing it, then they probably will come for you, like the guy taking selfies of himself sitting in Pelosi's chair.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Purge Begins
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:29:42 PM »Unless they refuse to bake cakes for same-sex couples.
Yeah, Masterpiece Cakeshop after 6 years finally won, but on a narrowly drawn Supreme Court decision that left intact restrictions on the religious rights of private enterprises.
The cakeshop was charged with violating a statute, not the constitution. Big difference. The SCOTUS decided that the law in question was void in this case based on the cakeshop's claim that it was part of their religion to discriminate.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:24:18 PM »You don’t understand. Marches by white people are banned. If you are black or you are white and support BLM you are good to go. If you are black and support Trump then you are not only banned, you are shamed because you “ain’t black”. You get to be hauled up in front of king Biden and scolded for voting wrong for your color which you are only impersonating.
Boy they are really pissed at the blacks that are deciding to side with someone that’s not the Dem Machine in Charge.
Marches by black people are treated much more harshly than the white crowd was on Wednesday. That should be apparent to anyone who watched.
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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:20:25 PM »The Royals (Democrats and their elite cronies in Tech and the Media) need to see a guillotine, gallows and firing squads to get them to stop pushing oppression of the American People.
You need to live in almost any other country and see what oppression is really like. You fly planes? Do you own one? Poor oppressed baby!