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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:17:41 PM »

You are projecting again, little man.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/stunning_rasmussen_poll_shows_em_rising_approvalem_of_trump_in_the_wake_of_the_capitol_incursion.html

If you hate the truth, just go ahead and call it a lie, like always. We don't expect anything less pathetic.

You know....
Like the good communists at twitter, facebook and the other propaganda arms of the communist (democrat) party.

https://www.rightjournalism.com/by-banning-trump-and-mass-banning-conservatives-today-twitter-can-now-be-considered-as-a-publisher-and-should-lose-section-230-protections-according-to-trumps-executive-order-on-preventing-online-c/

On one side is bias and the other BS.  So much fun trying to find the truth, but still worth the effort.  Though all polls are suspect in this day and age.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:15:10 PM »
So he encouraged a protest.  He told his followers to march to the capitol.

If a protest escalates into a riot everyone who encourages that protest should be punished?  Let's see how many of our esteemed representatives and senators and other elected officials encouraged BLM and Antifa protests that escalated in the burning of Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NY, and on and on.  They should also be impeached and punished?

Trump did not say storm the Capitol.  He said march to the Capitol.  So all marches to the Capitol should be banned just in case they get out of control?  And then there's the representatives and senators who encouraged storming the Senate during the Kavenaugh hearings.  They should also be impeached and punished?

Let's look at the question: "Do you support or oppose the protesters who broke into the U.S. Capitol"  Of course most people will say they oppose this.  Just like most people will say that they oppose protesters burning Portland, Seattle, and on and on.

At least fifty-seven percent of Americans are idiots.  And I'm not sure about the rest.

More like Al Baghdadi who radicalizes the masses by convincing them that their world is slipping away from them and then giving them a group to blame.  Trump has fed them lies and then encouraged them to march on the capital and to be strong to win.  This is right out of the ISIS playbook and it works beautifully.  I used to think that what happened in Germany under Hitler couldn't happen here.  I was wrong.  I used to think we were better than Islamist radicals because out people were more patriotic and had a much better standard of living.  Again, I was wrong.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:09:19 PM »
The time for the Continental Army is here as we are now a colony again, but this time of China.  That's all we are.  Who will be the next Washington?

More like who will be the next Hugo Chavez.  That is the result you will get if you destroy this democracy.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:07:30 PM »
Sigh. That’s “not even wrong.” Consider:
When one financial institution needs to communicate over public networks with another such institute, they use an agreed upon process to insure the other end is who it claims to be (i.e. avoid someone intercepting and pretending to be the destination) before they exchange sensitive information. This is known as authentication (encryption is the process of hiding the exchanged information from eavesdroppers. You can authenticate without encrypting or encrypt without authenticating, but often both are done.) Email uses the same authentication protocols (this is one case where encryption was not traditionally done, though now TLS is used to encrypt.) If the sequence of bits needed to fake the authentication could be trivially created from whole cloth, the internet would cease to exist as a reliable communication medium.

So your objection is technically wrong. Nice try, counselor.

Lastly and least importantly, I have some modest expertise in this area, as I was the sole author of a product to test TLS 1.2, a version of the primary protocol used to secure web communication:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150814144639/http://iwl.com/protocol-testing/ssl-tls (Alas there aren’t a lot of customers for such a product and we never recouped development costs, so after I retired the company eventually stopped trying to sell it.)

I only responded to set the record straight on the establishment of authenticity of the email contents. I’ll let others who may be more familiar with the contents take a stab at answering your last questions.

What you are talking about is a dynamic process.  This apparently involves emails that has sat in a laptop for years before allegedly being "discovered".  Some may be authenticated if you can obtain other copies of the email.  But is a static thing, an email is just a file.  There is no imprimatur by god emblazoned on the file to prove that it is the real deal.  And just because you can authenticate it, you then have to figure out what it means before using it as evidence.  The justice department run by Trump's picked lap dog apparently brought no charges related to anything to do with Joe Biden.  In fact, even Hunter's business seemed to only merit investigation to the extent that there might be tax fraud.  That investigation is ongoing.

The most likely explanation is that Hunter Biden used his position as the son of the VP to leverage that to make money.  A bit unethical IMO, but he is not the first offspring of someone famous to do that.  In itself, it is not illegal.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Purge Begins
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:47:21 PM »
You are a fucking idiot.
Serious.y. Are you and kristen fuck buddies, or just drug addicts?

I thought I was a lesbian, or do you think he is a girl.  ;D  You better not be doing any of those magic mushrooms.  Your brain is already FUBAR.  You can't handle drugs.  Or reality for that matter.  Must suck to be you.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Purge Begins
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:42:34 PM »
It’s a violation of the Civil Rights Act, denial of service based on creed.  These guys just opened themselves up to a massive lawsuit.  This is something the Supreme Court will uphold, a clear violation of the 14th Amendment.

But I’m sure you guys already knew that and are smart enough to press it.

Bored on my way to a vacation.

Con Law 101:  The Bill of Rights and amendments thereto do not apply to private enterprises.

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Spin Zone / Re: This might not be over
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:39:18 PM »
And if Kennedy were to run today, he couldn’t win the Democrat primary for dog catcher.

The Civil Rights Act was championed by Republicans. It was filibustered by Democrats. The civil rights movement came out of the religious world, it was churches of all color that backed it.

Very misleading and only partially true.  !  The bill was introduced in the house by a Democrat.  It was approved by the Democrat controlled House of Representatives.  In the Democrat controlled Senate, conservative, southern Democrats filibustered the bill.  The filibuster was broken by 27 Republicans and 44 Democrats.  It was signed into law by a Democrat.  It can not be said that the GOP was the "champion" of the legislation.  They did not write it and it wasn't GOP votes other than in the Senate to break the filibuster, that got it through.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/CivilRightsAct1964.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

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Spin Zone / Re: This might not be over
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:27:40 PM »
Yes sweetheart I do take issue with some of those programs.  And no I am not going to waste my time defining to you what the liberal agenda is.  I've got much better things to do than engage in a trite back and forth with a liberal on the internet.

As for my original comment, I will expect beers from my conservative counterparts if there is a thread of truth to what I say......and I will seek you out!

IOW, you have no coherent definition other than your mindless tribalism uses it to mean anyone who don't agree with your angry, narrow-mindedness.  Got it!

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Spin Zone / Re: This might not be over
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:24:01 PM »
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a liberal program?  You need to check your history.  Wikipedia works.

Yes, in the classic definition of liberal.  Probably not in your reimagining of its meaning.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:20:58 PM »
The authenticity of some of its emails appears to have been established: when you have the entire original emails (meaning all the headers) from the machine’s email storage, then if the email providers involved were using current standards, it is possible to authenticate whether an email was sent at the claimed time from the claimed source to the claimed destination with the claimed message content. This is because such systems add things called DKIM and ARC headers that allow messages to be authenticated manually at a later date.

In fact a security expert did run a DKIM authentication check on one or more emails and verified them. This has been acknowledged by Hunter Biden defenders who nevertheless claim that it is possible someone could have created both accounts back in 2015 (remember the timestamps are also authenticated) with the objective of smearing the Bidens at some later date like 2019.

You can do a web search on keywords “hunter biden emails and dkim” for various stories. Here’s one in his defense:
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/11/fact-check-what-dkim-verification-of-Hunter-Biden-email-proves-and-what-it-doesn't.html

Here are some technical backgrounders on DKIM and ARC:
https://www.dmarcanalyzer.com/dkim/dkim-signature/
https://postmarkapp.com/blog/what-is-arc-or-authenticated-received-chain

P.S. Most email client programs allow you to view all the headers of an email. It is worthwhile just for personal edification to take a look. The number of headers is quite mind-numbing at times. Check to see if any headers have DKIM or ARC in their names.

Anything coded on a hard drive in 1's and 0's can be created out of whole cloth.  They fact that this laptop came through Guiliani makes it suspect to begin with.  Apparently the FBI has looked at the laptop and the emails and have done nothing more about them with respect to anything Hunter might have done that implicated Joe.

But lets assume for sake of argument that it really was Hunter's laptop and there are genuine emails in it.  What do they prove against Joe?  Got any examples?

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 08, 2021, 08:09:55 PM »
No, I do not agree with that at all!  Did you read what John Adams said, and what I said? 

Freedom of religion is not violated, nor limited, because stopping someone killing someone else in the alleged name of religion is not a violation of the establishment clause.

Let’s start at the basics. Do you agree with the existence of natural rights, and that government doesn’t grant rights, but our Constitution guarantees those natural rights?

The only reason human sacrifice, which is unquestionably an ancient religious tradition, is because our society has deemed it to be such.  Thus there is a limitation on a right, created by society.  You can't say otherwise.

There are some natural rights, but we might disagree as to which they are and whether limitations can be placed upon them for the betterment of society as a whole.

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Spin Zone / Re: This might not be over
« on: January 08, 2021, 05:11:50 PM »
No therapy needed here sweetheart.  Liberalism is a disgusting repulsive disease, and anyone who thinks the liberal agenda has anything to do with American values and principles is fucking clueless.  I wish more people would take the time to inform themselves.

So you hate all these liberal programs:

Medicare
Social Security
Civil Rights Acts
Various welfare programs
Depression era work programs

Just to name a few big ones.

Perhaps you need to define what you think the "liberal agenda" is.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 08, 2021, 05:07:23 PM »
A right that denies life or liberty to someone else isn’t a right at all. You don’t have to go ancient. You can see “honor killings” that have occurred by Muslims in the US as being abhorrent violations of someone else’s life or liberty. That it is done in the name of religion doesn’t deny them their religion.

John Adams said that our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. In other words, it relies on the decency of people to do the right thing. The Constitution restrains government, not the citizens, so the Founders presumed that men of decency would hold public office, but would be constrained by the Constitution when they didn’t.

“One of the foremost constitutional theorists of the founding generation, John Adams, observed, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”1 He wasn’t the only Founding Father to hold this view. Indeed, James Madison wrote that our Constitution requires “sufficient virtue among men for self-government,” otherwise, “nothing less than the chains of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another.”2

“Many of our Founders were men of faith or were influenced strongly by the Judeo-Christian tradition.3 They accepted the premise of mankind’s imperfect nature. They had experienced first-hand the oppressive dictates of Parliament and the Crown that led to the American Revolution. And they were rightly suspicious of the accumulation of governmental power by one person or a small body — “the very definition of tyranny” according to Madison.4”

https://constitutionallaw.regent.edu/preserving-a-constitution-designed-for-a-moral-and-religious-people/

OK!  We are making progress.  You do agree that there are limits to rights.  So the question is where that line should be drawn.  Upon that, reasonable people can disagree.  That is what our democratic processes are for.  Burning down our democratic processes in order to protect your view of your rights is ridiculous.  Get rid of democracy and you will find you lose lots and lots of rights.  Not only will the new autocratic government come for your assault rifles, they will come for all your guns and will not care whether you hand is warm or not after they get them.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 08, 2021, 05:01:49 PM »
Can anyone explain this?

You mean the BS tweet, or whatever it is?

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 08, 2021, 05:00:18 PM »
If you weren't such a fucking left wing nut job, you wouldn't hate men so much.

I only hate men who have so little self-esteem that they need to prop up their shaky masculinity with hate, bile, and misogyny.  I shudder to think what your mother must have done to you to make you so bitter.

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