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Spin Zone / Re: War in the Middle East?
« on: May 16, 2018, 06:16:09 AM »Newsflash - the vast, vast majority of liberals have little opinion on Israel, and certainly don't care enough to hate them. Most of the rest of them like Israel.
The number of liberals who are politically savvy enough to tow some supposed party-line hatred of Israel is minuscule.
I hope that is true, just like it is true that most conservatives are not gap toothed hillbillies, but the liberal image of all conservatives is exactly that. This country has split into two camps growing wider apart by the hour, and each camp is painting the other as ever more some made up Face of Evil. The reality is that only a few on each side are ideological fanatics, most don't care much about politics or just blindly swallow their camp's ideas. To the extent liberals hate Israel seems to me just the outcome of the latter: a very skewed media portrayal of Israel as some oppressor of the poor disadvantaged Arabs, a lack of knowledge of their history as I think invflatspin pointed out. If you go back thousands of years you will find the roots of the desert nomads - they were pushed out of the fertile coastal regions by pure OVERPOPULATION (relative to that day's agricultural technology) and evolved into their own culture. This is neither good nor bad, it is just what it is no more no less. But it does result in tension between the descendants of both groups with the nomadic one having no more claim over any particular territory because we are talking about far more than just today's Israel. To say they deserve Israel would be like saying today's descendants of the mid 19th century immigrants fleeing the Irish potato famine deserve property claims in today's state of Ireland. Nuts! The reality is that the best rational choice for these people is to assimilate into the modern construct such as it exists. Those who refuse and choose terrorist "jihad" instead only screw themselves in the process - the Stone Age behavior and morality of that culture, which served them well in harsh desert conditions, will never be tolerated in today's modern world.