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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 20, 2020, 11:30:10 AM »
OMG, the guy that just called Rush, what a story he had, what a call. He went to the MAGA Rally in D.C. with his 31 yr old son and said not a single Republican politician was there as part of it.  He said he's tired of being stabbed in the back by Republican politicians that need us to get elected and then abandon us. The due, William, was practically in tears.

  George Wallace "There ain't a dime's worth of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats."

 He was right.  The mainstream (establishment) republicans are disgraceful.  Just look around right now at the "conservatives" that are saying the election is over and let's move on, totally ignoring the election fraud that took place.

 They want their old system back.  They want to stay in bed with their lobbyist keep taking donations from Big Tech and Big Corporations.  And they want more wars so they can keep feeding the MIC.

 Career politicians on both sides have destroyed this country.  Never, ever did the founding fathers envision someone spending decades in elected office.   We so desperately need term limits on all elected positions.  We need to repeal the portion of the 17th amendment that allows for popular vote of the senators and put it back to the state legislatures.

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Spin Zone / Re: Over/Under on when gropin' joe "resigns"
« on: November 20, 2020, 07:40:59 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 19, 2020, 11:45:46 AM »
Lots of info to piss us off. All rumors until something can be substantiated in a court somewhere and cases won. Just my take.

Legally speaking they (Trump team) are 100% correct.   The media is demanding they be handed the evidence right now.   Trump Team is saying the evidence will be presented in a court of law.

 If they handed out the evidence right now to the media, they would a)  start intimidating witnesses, b) selectively editing the evidence, and c) start a massive MSM campaign to discredit the evidence.

 This would also taint the evidence before the judge sees it.

 I've read the complaints filed so far with evidence.  It's compelling in taking the case forward.

 Be patient and let them do their jobs.

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 19, 2020, 06:34:49 AM »
People are starting to fight back.

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Spin Zone / Re: Cases! Cases! Cases!
« on: November 18, 2020, 08:09:30 PM »
This is a Governor that gets it.   We need more like her.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/kristi-noem-the-silent-mask-assassin/

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 17, 2020, 03:00:44 PM »
"But if Trump loses his court challenges and recounts, his supporters aren’t going to forget about this. People are angry unlike anything this author has seen before. "

 If Trump loses his court challenges it's game over for this country, period.

 Oh sure, the dims will put together a "commission" of dims and RINOs that will spend millions of our dollars and a couple of years, then come back and tell us "It's all OK, not a smidgen of corruption was found."

 Each election after this in the blue states will have dims sitting on their ass and not campaigning knowing they have already won the election before the first vote is ever cast.

 We will have Biden for 2 years, and then Harris for 10.  Yep, a President Harris until 2032.  Let that sink in for a bit.

 Republicans can run, they can spend millions of dollars, but no matter who votes, it only matter on who counts the votes.

 We will become North Venezuela.

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 15, 2020, 04:10:21 PM »
Holy shit! Seriously?  Certainly it’s happened in many more states. The SC needs to declare the entire election invalid.

Is MSM in the U.S. even reporting this?

 The SC cannot invalidate the entire election.   Each election is a state by state basis.   In fact, with regards to fraud, it goes to each state to decide whether to invalidate or not.

 This is where the lawsuits come into play.  If it's proved that say Pennsylvania has irrefutable corruption, the Trump can sue the state to invalidate the election and not certify the vote.  The legislature can step in as well.

 

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Spin Zone / Re: Any of you at the rally?
« on: November 14, 2020, 11:13:05 AM »
will this one actually have a million people?

Doesn’t matter.  MSM will tell you it was a bust, no one showed up. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Biden won! Unless...
« on: November 11, 2020, 07:02:28 PM »
Somebody posted this on Facebook:
I have no idea who said it, or if they know what they're talking about. My hubby forwarded it to me without credit.  It makes me feel a little better though.

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Some of this you may already know (most I knew myself) but some is new intel.
Ok in a nutshell. This is going to the Supreme Court. Where they will rule that the election is invalid due to fraud or mistakes on a country wide scale.

 No.

 If we are speaking the PA lawsuit, then what could happen is the SC declares the State SC acted against the constitution, and that the state must follow the state law which says ballots must be received by 8pm on election night.  This would require a recount, and throwing out all invalid ballots, which will give the state election to Trump.


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It will go one of two ways, either they will rule that all the unconstitutional
mail in ballots will be removed and the states ordered to recount without them or they will simply rule the election is invalid due to mass voter fraud and at that point it will be sent to the congress and senate for a vote.

 SC can't declare the entire election invalid.  Presidential election as per the constitution is a state by state contest, not a national contest.   So the red states that still know how to run an election, their elections and selection of electors stands.

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This is where it gets good. The house/congress votes on who the President will be. It has nothing to do with what party that has power. Every State gets one vote and 30 States are held by Republicans and 19 by Democrats. They have to vote down party lines,

 OK, let's step back a bit.  According to the constitution, if neither party achieves 270 electoral votes, and that time, immediately, the election goes to congress.  So, let's say that AZ, PA, MI and WI are still under litigation, or unable to certify their votes, neither side will get 270, so now the house decides the President, and the Senate decides the VP.

 The deciding factor is the control of each state.  Right now I believe there are 28 states controlled by Republicans and 22 by democrats, so one vote per state will elect Trump.  In the senate, Pence will be easily elected.

 And no, there is no requirement to vote party lines.

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they have no choice due to the 12th Amendment of the Constitution and the Senate votes for the Vice President where a similar even will take place. This is The law.

The 12th Amendment:

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The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;-The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;-The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President-The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

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This is why the Democrats are so mad at Nancy Pelosi. This will all happen in January. The only way President Trump won’t be President is if he concedes the election and that will never happen

 This is why the dims are going apocalyptic over Trump not conceding.   As long as he doesn't concede, and as long as the swing states in question are under litigation they cannot certify their votes.   This puts the election to congress.

 Again, Trump has more paths to win than Biden.  For Biden to win each state in litigation must go to the SC and get a decision there in his favor.   And since we have a Thomas Court now, that's not likely.

Also, if Trump gets ruled against by the SC (unlikely), he simply needs to refile another lawsuit in the state to keep it in litigation.  This will keep the vote from being certified.


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So stop watching the fake news and don’t let your heart be troubled and live your life knowing this will all work out. President Trump will remain President I have researched all of this and it is Fact!

Agreed.

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Another fun fact, they call Gore the President Elect for 37 days in 2000 until the courts ruled against him and declared Bush the winner. And two people that will be part of that decision are none other that new Supreme Court Justices, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Why do you think the Democrats tried so hard to keep them from being confirmed.

 Roberts was also involved.

 But the SC did not and never declared Bush the winner.  They simply stopped the recounts, which in turn gave Bush Florida, and the majority of the electoral votes.

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Here's the link:

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Spin Zone / Re: The Statistical Probability Dwarfs Imagination
« on: November 10, 2020, 04:57:24 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: The Statistical Probability Dwarfs Imagination
« on: November 10, 2020, 03:09:50 PM »
First, Hillary Clinton did win the election, she got he most votes.
 Of course that's not how our political system works since the founders of our nation weren't entirely sold on the radical new notion of Democracy.

 That is one of the most profoundly ignorant statements I've ever witnessed.   Have you ever studied history, or even the constitution?   

 The framers avoided democracy because they knew what a disaster would follow.

 Oh, and democracy wasn't a "new notion".    Seriously, are you this incredibly ignorant?



 

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