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Spin Zone / Re: A New GOP is Born- Pat Buchanan
« on: March 01, 2016, 02:35:25 PM »I don't disagree. I was at the forefront of the Tea Party movement, and was very active here in Wisconsin. I'm not a rookie when it comes to Conservatism. I voted for Reagan in my first presidential election in 1980.Well as people around here like to say ad nauseum, Trump is not a 'real' conservative, so Conservatism will be uneffected by his candidacy or his potential victory as a Republican.
So no one is more pissed at the GOP establishment than me for fucking up and abandoning the Conservative message. I get the "burn it down" mentality. I really do.
But I'm not willing to throw Conservatism into the flames along with the establishment. That would be like cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Yet that is what I see happening with the full throated support of Trump unaccompanied by a critical examination of who he really is, and what he has done, with respect to the conservative movement. I've done so, and find him lacking.
So I fear for conservatism more than anything, and that is why I'm resistant to Trump. It has nothing to do with hatred, as lucifer childishly likes to say. It has everything to do with a defense of conservatism.
I'm troubled that more people aren't fighting for conservative ideals, and fear the conservative movement will die with a president Trump.
People from all political spectrums left, right and middle, are supporting Trump, including some big "C" Conservatives, not because he represents a Reaganesque Conservatism but because he is NOT the GOP Establishment - not because he provides boring detailed policy wonk explanations (looking at you Ted Cruz) but because he expresses a full-throated optimism unseen since Reagan.
The people are telling anyone who will listen why they support the guy, hard-core Conservative values isn't even in the weeds on the list - dismissing these folks, and treating them derisively as stupid, angry rubes is how this voting block was created in the first place (not accusing you of making that assertion, but it is very prevalent here).
Ted Cruz is not and will never be an effective standard bearer for Conservatism, lacks the charisma and approachableness that is needed and he has been, I think, severely damaged by the win at all costs dirty tricks that his campaign has engaged in and been caught doing. Rubio will never escape the Gang of Eight for many voters like myself.
I can't vote FOR either of them (or Kasich until he drops out later this week) at this point, still open to Trump and Carson but both have substantive issues for me as as well but they are outsiders and that is key for me at this time.
The situation at SCOTUS will drive me to vote AGAINST (D), or (I) - so knowing that, I want to see the whole thing burned down since I am fairly confident right now that barring a compelling right of center third party run by a popular candidate, the enthusiasm gap we have been seeing between both parties (which is not I believe captured in the national polling) points to a lopsided Republican victory in November essentially regardless of who is the nominee.
Give me the firey rebirth of the GOP from the ashes of its current failure, unless reports of McConnell being willing to torpedo a Trump candidacy are true in which case all bets are off and we are no longer being governed by people with even a shred of concern about the Nation and nothing any of us do will amount to a hill of beans.
'Gimp