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Spin Zone / Re: Will This End the Clinton Candidacy?
« on: January 24, 2016, 08:26:16 AM »[
Whichever one that would be, it would not be Cruz who has no understanding of the separation of church and state.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"
What specific language do you feel Cruz has violated, or shown a lack of comprehension?
Kristin, I'm sorry if you misread the syllabus in law school and you thought your C-law class section on the First Amendment read "Freedom From Religion."
You might start with Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145 (1878) and Emerson v. Board of Education 330 U.S. 1 (1947). Both quote Jefferson's letter to the Baptists promising a wall of separate between church and state. Then we have a whole raft to decisions from there making clear that any governmental promotion of a religion is unconstitutional.
If you have had the pleasure of taking Con Law you must have slept through it.
Oooh. Landmark cases. Impressive. Now tell me one thing that Cruz has proposed that violates Jefferson's metaphor of the "wall of separation."
And your lame claim of what he said in Iowa isn't one of them.
Why is it so tough to just admit that you want the First Amendment to mean a Freedom FROM Religion?
It does mean freedom from state supported religion.
Duh. Any 8th grader should know that. But that's not what concerns you in Cruz's case, is it?
My concern with Cruz is either that he is pandering or that he is a Christian bigot who thinks science is a waste of time because all answers to our existence is in Genesis.
So your concerns changed from post #47 when you said Cruz is not a Constitutionalist because he doesn't understand the separation of church and state? Because that was kind of the point of this whole discussion, wasn't it?
Can you fill me in on what Cruz has said that makes him a "Christian bigot?" I don't think you've articulated that yet.
While you're at it, can you cite any statement of Cruz where he said or implied that "science is a waste of time"? Or can we conclude that you're so bigoted against all Christians that you are simply projecting your hatred toward a candidate that you despise, who happens to be Christian?
I consider a statement saying that if you don't start the day praying that you are not fit to be President a pretty good example of bigotry.
Cruz has spend lots of time getting cozy with the creationist crowd. I recall him being asked if he accepted any aspects of evolution and he ducked the question. It is a fair one considering his father is an outspoken support of creationist theory ala Genesis.
Got it. So just to clarify, your hatred of Cruz has nothing to do with your belief that he is not a Constitutionalist and that he doesn't understand the First Amendment, as you stated, and everything to do with your own anti- Christian bigotry.
Thanks for the explanation.